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[2017-5-02. : 11:08 pm]  Moose -- AshamedAshamed shouted: Mini Moose 2707 My issue with this is database access.. Testing functionality would work much better, if we could test it with the current database. Bad queries work just fine with small DBs This is true. Perhaps there can be code in the test suite that populates the database to realistic amounts of data?[2017-5-02. : 11:07 pm]  Dem0n -- DevliNDevliN shouted: Pauper Don't listen to Dem0n. Donations go towards paying the monthly hosting fee. Everyone working on the site is doing it voluntarily. Though since we are in the process of vetting a new VPS, donations would be going toward paying for that. I know that, but I was saying that donating money won't do anything to directly improve the site like pay for manhours to work on stuff lmao[2017-5-02. : 11:06 pm] Ashamed -- Mini Moose 2707Mini Moose 2707 shouted: We've done a proof of concept with the v4 code and it appears to have been a good thing. Not that v4 is anywhere near the scale of v6, it was at least a learning experience. My issue with this is database access.. Testing functionality would work much better, if we could test it with the current database. Bad queries work just fine with small DBs[2017-5-02. : 11:05 pm]  DevliN -- PauperPauper shouted: Ahh shoot, really? So he is just inactive and doesn't help speed up the site? Not inactive, though I don't really help speed up the site because I know nothing about that aspect of it. I think I was chosen to take on paying for SEN mainly because I was able to afford it, not because I had any ability to fix it.[2017-5-02. : 11:04 pm] Moose -- Like, 99% of contributors going to disappear when I say things like "you have to document any code files you change" and "you have to unit test any functionality you change", so we might as well keep the pool big LMAO[2017-5-02. : 11:02 pm] Pauper -- PauperPauper shouted: Okay, thanks Devlin. Good to know that the donations are indeed going for something to improve the site. test[2017-5-02. : 11:01 pm] Moose -- If someone from an underwater basketweaving site wants to contribute, w/e. Pull in if good, reject if garbage, who cares?[2017-5-02. : 11:00 pm] Moose -- Dem0nDem0n shouted: Mini Moose 2707 tbh, should close source and share with SEN members only. Can do a free repo on Bitbucket. Why?[2017-5-02. : 11:00 pm] Pauper -- Okay, thanks Devlin. Good to know that the donations are indeed going for something to improve the site.[2017-5-02. : 10:59 pm] Dem0n -- Mini Moose 2707Mini Moose 2707 shouted: There's going to be a github with an export of the database structure. I'll share it once I put it together, since I'm planning to use that for the migration anyway. tbh, should close source and share with SEN members only. Can do a free repo on Bitbucket.[2017-5-02. : 10:59 pm] DevliN -- PauperPauper shouted: Ahh shoot, really? So he is just inactive and doesn't help speed up the site? Don't listen to Dem0n. Donations go towards paying the monthly hosting fee. Everyone working on the site is doing it voluntarily. Though since we are in the process of vetting a new VPS, donations would be going toward paying for that.[2017-5-02. : 10:55 pm] Moose -- We've done a proof of concept with the v4 code and it appears to have been a good thing. Not that v4 is anywhere near the scale of v6, it was at least a learning experience.[2017-5-02. : 10:54 pm] Moose -- AshamedAshamed shouted: Mini Moose 2707 you going to open source it or pay for closed repo? If you get this too me before purchasi Open source. Anyone will be able to test and benchmark.[2017-5-02. : 10:52 pm] Ashamed -- ng new server.. It be best. We could test the code base on a stronger machine[2017-5-02. : 10:51 pm] Ashamed -- Mini Moose 2707Mini Moose 2707 shouted: There's going to be a github with an export of the database structure. I'll share it once I put it together, since I'm planning to use that for the migration anyway. you going to open source it or pay for closed repo? If you get this too me before purchasi[2017-5-02. : 10:51 pm] Moose -- AshamedAshamed shouted: also these people don't understand webservers its apparent ha. The server is fine for a single site ha.. I have cpanel vps with 2gbs of ram that run 30 sites. Yeah, and we're moving away from cPanel to an unmanaged VPS because I find cPanel gets in the way of things, lel. Though we never used it correctly anyway, since maplantis, v4, the wiki, etc. all run on the same cPanel account or whatever you call it LMAO[2017-5-02. : 10:49 pm] Moose -- There's going to be a github with an export of the database structure. I'll share it once I put it together, since I'm planning to use that for the migration anyway.[2017-5-02. : 10:47 pm] Ashamed -- You really should make a backup of the code/database and let me run it on my home server for a few tests...WE can see how much better it gets with bet[2017-5-02. : 10:46 pm] Ashamed -- There is no reason this site couldn't run on a shared server even lol... Its a fricken forum.. Correct optimization don't toss more specs at it ><[2017-5-02. : 10:45 pm] Ashamed -- also these people don't understand webservers its apparent ha. The server is fine for a single site ha.. I have cpanel vps with 2gbs of ram that run 30 sites.[2017-5-02. : 10:43 pm] Ashamed -- Mini Moose 2707Mini Moose 2707 shouted: Ashamed It's definitely load. I've watched with top and mpstat/iostat. I would be surprised if it were not shitty code and database optimization. database optimization normally results in IO issues though >< Are you sure its not fake load because of mysql IO waits?[2017-5-02. : 10:41 pm] Moose -- AshamedAshamed shouted: Mini Moose 2707 yeah for a web server this isn't bad.. is it IO or load that you notice on the server? Keep in mind IO can show up as load as well It's definitely load. I've watched with top and mpstat/iostat. I would be surprised if it were not shitty code and database optimization.[2017-5-02. : 10:37 pm] Moose -- PauperPauper shouted: Lol.. what a server! Is it hosted at someones home? Or are we renting service space? I have some old hardware laying around that would run circles around that. That I may be willing to donate...... This is from a hosting company. I'm sure half the people here have phones with better specs. You're usually paying for bandwidth, uptime, connectivity. tech/hardware support, etc. rather than specs.[2017-5-02. : 10:34 pm] Moose -- We're moving to these guys. The "out of stock" is w/e because DevliN "knows a guy". So I would say $40/month to scale up? LMAO[2017-5-02. : 10:33 pm] Pauper -- Lol.. what a server! Is it hosted at someones home? Or are we renting service space? I have some old hardware laying around that would run circles around that. That I may be willing to donate......[2017-5-02. : 10:32 pm] Ashamed -- Mini Moose 2707Mini Moose 2707 shouted: Ashamed 2 GB RAM, 67GB disk, 2x "Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2630 0 @ 2.30GHz" yeah for a web server this isn't bad.. is it IO or load that you notice on the server? Keep in mind IO can show up as load as well[2017-5-02. : 10:31 pm] Ashamed -- My ups power at my house works pretty good! I was able to remote into all my computers and shut them down ha.[2017-5-02. : 10:31 pm]  lil-Inferno -- Mini Moose 2707Mini Moose 2707 shouted: Ashamed 2 GB RAM, 67GB disk, 2x "Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2630 0 @ 2.30GHz" embarrassing LMAO[2017-5-02. : 10:27 pm] Moose -- AshamedAshamed shouted: Mini Moose 2707 Minimoose what is the server specs right now?? I doubt this will have much effect on bad table queries. 2 GB RAM, 67GB disk, 2x "Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2630 0 @ 2.30GHz"[2017-5-02. : 10:17 pm] outlawpoet -- "patch required" "oh turns out you don't need a patch after all" let me specify the file path jfc[2017-5-02. : 10:15 pm] outlawpoet -- it won't even patch the new installation at all, it insists on automatically patching one on a completely different drive than the one I just loaded it from[2017-5-02. : 10:13 pm] outlawpoet -- and now I need to downgrade my old version while forcing it to patch my new installation on an entirely different drive, tips?[2017-5-02. : 10:09 pm] outlawpoet -- I have a weird problem, blizzard's patch patches my old version of starcraft and I don't want it to do that[2017-5-02. : 10:09 pm] Ashamed -- Suicidal InsanitySuicidal Insanity shouted: My guess is that the SQL structure / queries / PHP just needs some optimization. I agree suicidal.. Throwing more specs at it may make it faster... but it will be a matter of time before its back with new specs,etc.[2017-5-02. : 10:08 pm] Ashamed -- Mini Moose 2707Mini Moose 2707 shouted: We need to go through proper channels to get unflagged, but compared to other work that needs to be done it's not a top priority. I quoted wrong one >< on that second shout ha[2017-5-02. : 10:08 pm] Ashamed -- I have said a gillion times I can help get this site back in working order but I need access into shit and or you can even just copy the database/web files and give me them I dont care.[2017-5-02. : 10:08 pm] Suicidal Insanity -- My guess is that the SQL structure / queries / PHP just needs some optimization.[2017-5-02. : 10:07 pm] Suicidal Insanity -- @Pauper: Easier way to configure the MPQs is just set a custom starcraft path[2017-5-02. : 10:07 pm] Ashamed -- Mini Moose 2707Mini Moose 2707 shouted: MasterJohnny Yeah, turns out when you have a lot of obscure executables that sometimes trigger false positives in malware scanners, you get flagged. also just make the site https.. This will fix this Moose.[2017-5-02. : 10:05 pm] Ashamed -- Mini Moose 2707Mini Moose 2707 shouted: He's been popping in and out. SEN is in the process of switching to a new server soon. I don't have any insight into SEN's finances so I don't know how the money donated keeps this place running versus his pockets or if it's enough to scale up the VPS resources. Minimoose what is the server specs right now?? I doubt this will have much effect on bad table queries.[2017-5-02. : 9:54 pm] Suicidal Insanity -- Any idea how much it needs? Stormcoast runs off a 7$ / month plan and has had quite large traffic spikes and coped[2017-5-02. : 9:51 pm] Voyager7456 -- Mini Moose 2707Mini Moose 2707 shouted: He's been popping in and out. SEN is in the process of switching to a new server soon. I don't have any insight into SEN's finances so I don't know how the money donated keeps this place running versus his pockets or if it's enough to scale up the VPS resources. I'd be legitimately interested in finding out how much it would cost to upgrade SEN's resources[2017-5-02. : 9:50 pm] Pauper -- Click EDIT, remove the .MPQ files and LOCATE your install of SC. Those files will[2017-5-02. : 9:46 pm] Dem0n -- MasterJohnnyMasterJohnny shouted: how do i get scmdraft to run compatability mode[2017-5-02. : 9:44 pm] Moose -- We need to go through proper channels to get unflagged, but compared to other work that needs to be done it's not a top priority.[2017-5-02. : 9:43 pm] Dem0n -- Need a disclaimer at the top of the dldb saying that the warning can be ignored[2017-5-02. : 9:40 pm] Moose -- MasterJohnnyMasterJohnny shouted: im downloading starforge from sen and firefox thinks it might be harmful software? Yeah, turns out when you have a lot of obscure executables that sometimes trigger false positives in malware scanners, you get flagged.[2017-5-02. : 9:38 pm] MasterJohnny -- im downloading starforge from sen and firefox thinks it might be harmful software?[2017-5-02. : 9:37 pm] Moose -- He's been popping in and out. SEN is in the process of switching to a new server soon. I don't have any insight into SEN's finances so I don't know how the money donated keeps this place running versus his pockets or if it's enough to scale up the VPS resources.[2017-5-02. : 9:30 pm] Pauper -- Damnit... so does he ever check this thing anymore? If I send him a message will he reply? I don't want to do a dispute unless I have too........... asdfasdgasdgasdg[2017-5-02. : 9:29 pm] Voyager7456 -- PauperPauper shouted: Well shit, I guess I will talk to paypal and get a refund........... inb4 PayPal freezes DevliN's account and SEN goes down[2017-5-02. : 9:28 pm] Pauper -- Well shit, I guess I will talk to paypal and get a refund...........[2017-5-02. : 9:27 pm] Pauper -- Ahh shoot, really? So he is just inactive and doesn't help speed up the site?[2017-5-02. : 9:25 pm] Dem0n -- PauperPauper shouted: Woah.. R2B.. Jesus.. haven't seen that name in awhile. It happens all the time, the site is super slow right now. More donations = faster site! donating won't do shit LMAO |
