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[2017-3-27. : 2:35 am]  Zoan -- I thought this is mostly just a reskin with some minor quality of life changes?[2017-3-27. : 2:35 am] zsnakezz -- that i thought they should check out, or i believed knew a lot about the engine and could help[2017-3-27. : 2:34 am] zsnakezz -- i personally contacted them, gave them a resume, but also gave them the info of 5 other people on this site[2017-3-27. : 2:34 am] Pr0nogo -- remaster is literally a reskin of the game, all the features and gameplay is 1:1[2017-3-27. : 2:34 am] Pr0nogo -- no even classic will probably be changed completely since classic has to be functionally identical to the remaster[2017-3-27. : 2:33 am] Zoan -- idk if you can seemlessly switch between HD and classic it is possible SCMDraft2 will still work aynway[2017-3-27. : 2:33 am]  Excalibur -- Dem0n, Blizz claims to be talking to UMS people. They aren't talking to us, outlaw says no one on Fish has been spoke to. What does that tell you about if they see how bad the editor is? XD THey[2017-3-27. : 2:33 am] Pr0nogo -- the thing is farty and heiner know a lot about the assembly and etc of scbw but the remaster will probably change everything[2017-3-27. : 2:32 am] Dem0n -- and they'll have to modify it to render the new terrain/unit models anyways.[2017-3-27. : 2:32 am] zsnakezz -- is there no one on this site anymore who is familiar with editor codes?[2017-3-27. : 2:32 am] Dem0n -- jjf said that chkdraft is on an indefinite hold as he has way too much shit going on at work right now, so there's no fucking way he'd start over to support the remaster LMAO[2017-3-27. : 2:31 am] Excalibur -- Moose, here's the plan: I hit mega millionz jackpot, hire actual coders to fix SEN and SCMD.  [2017-3-27. : 2:31 am] zsnakezz -- in total it would be 500, and i would expect this to be done on free time[2017-3-27. : 2:31 am]  Moose -- I dunno, I think you need more than $50 to replace jjf's salary for six months or so LMAO[2017-3-27. : 2:30 am] Excalibur -- If they get rid of MPQ SCMD breaks. If they don't get rid of MPQ is SCMD going to be able to render the terrain the correct way for HD for blendz purposes? This is what worries me. Cause SI is gone.[2017-3-27. : 2:30 am] zsnakezz -- i would say 1/10th should be worth 50$ and thats what i would put down for somebody to do it[2017-3-27. : 2:29 am] Zoan -- if that happens we should add 'or' statements to triggers and for loops and stuff[2017-3-27. : 2:29 am] Pr0nogo -- i would be willing to pay up, i'm sure there are others as well, but this ain't something that's gonna be done quickly[2017-3-27. : 2:27 am] Broflamingo -- And SEN Taking the helm for this would just be huge influencer points in the remaster community.[2017-3-27. : 2:27 am] Pr0nogo -- yeah? who's gonna do that? we all have jobs and bills to pay, none of us can just dedicate hours of our free time to make an editor without compensation[2017-3-27. : 2:27 am] Broflamingo -- Im telling you SCMDRAFT is gonna be broken, its better to take the initiative now.[2017-3-27. : 2:26 am] zsnakezz -- just saying, somebody should helm the project of supporting an editor to be compatible with the remaster[2017-3-27. : 2:26 am] Pr0nogo -- without mpqs you can't even make folders like 'sound' in the directory and have the game read them like you had to before winmpq was created[2017-3-27. : 2:25 am] Moose -- Gonna run "git init" in my SCBW folder so I can "git reset --hard" later if necessary LMAO[2017-3-27. : 2:25 am] Pr0nogo -- modding in particular will almost certainly have to be done in 1.16.1[2017-3-27. : 2:25 am] Pr0nogo -- we can have separate installations (just copy the sc folder and rename it to something else) but it would be a pretty big drag to not be able to properly preview the aesthetics of terrain[2017-3-27. : 2:25 am] zsnakezz -- DarkenedFantasiesDarkenedFantasies shouted: i'm pretty sure sc maps will be compatible with the new versions. if the 3rd party editors aren't, maybe we could keep a separate 1.16 installation just for the purpose of using scmdraft or something? or you know, modify existing editors[2017-3-27. : 2:24 am] DarkenedFantasies -- i'm pretty sure sc maps will be compatible with the new versions. if the 3rd party editors aren't, maybe we could keep a separate 1.16 installation just for the purpose of using scmdraft or something?[2017-3-27. : 2:24 am] Moose -- Still got my X-Tra, Emerald Aspect, and Black Wood v.II ready for the SCMDraft apocalypse O_O[2017-3-27. : 2:23 am] zsnakezz -- well, i think with combined knowledge on this site, perhaps an engine not making use of mpqs could potentially be devised[2017-3-27. : 2:23 am] Pr0nogo -- taking out EUDs is pretty shite, all the popular maps on fish will cease to work[2017-3-27. : 2:22 am] Pr0nogo -- i just hope i don't have to use fucking [/b]StarEdit[/b] in order to make my campaigns from now on[2017-3-27. : 2:22 am] zsnakezz -- like i said, if hyper triggers are a thing of the past, that is not a huge deal[2017-3-27. : 2:22 am] Moose -- Unless you really on features that aren't natively supported (ie. "extended .*") or things they're specifically fixing (sprite limit?), it seems like you'll be fine.[2017-3-27. : 2:22 am] Pr0nogo -- maps and replays from 1.16.1 will probably still work unless they used data exploits like EUDs and maybe hypertriggers[2017-3-27. : 2:21 am] Pr0nogo -- they probably aren't using mpqs anymore, so scmdraft probably won't work[2017-3-27. : 2:20 am] zsnakezz -- i just dont see all our maps being broken, that is the gist of what im saying[2017-3-27. : 2:20 am] Pr0nogo -- Mini Moose 2707Mini Moose 2707 shouted: Pr0nogo Just hearing "starter edition" makes me cringe. that's ok, just reading 'blizzard app' makes me cringe too, so i never even start sc2[2017-3-27. : 2:20 am] Pr0nogo -- mappers can include donation links and build their own websites and sign up for patreon but nothing allows players to pay for maps in the game itself[2017-3-27. : 2:19 am] Moose -- Pr0nogoPr0nogo shouted: in fact, the arcade itself is included in the freeware version of sc2 ('starter edition'), so you can access every public custom map in the game for free Just hearing "starter edition" makes me cringe.[2017-3-27. : 2:19 am] Pr0nogo -- 'my friend' is not a valid source to base your argument on, unfortunately for you[2017-3-27. : 2:19 am] Pr0nogo -- in fact, the arcade itself is included in the freeware version of sc2 ('starter edition'), so you can access every public custom map in the game for free |
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