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[2017-3-26. : 2:37 pm]
Excalibur -- Never played it. and ya, Moose's civ map that he's started six time LMAO
[2017-3-26. : 2:37 pm]
Moose -- I should have finished my Civ map. Now it's just a meme.
[2017-3-26. : 2:37 pm]
lil-Inferno -- You mean Siege Dyne LMAO
[2017-3-26. : 2:36 pm]
Excalibur -- Ive been wanting to make a 'siege' themed map lately. Make a big nicely terrained castle, incorporate a system for siege towers/ladders, and maybe let each side spend a certain amount of credits to select which unit types they'd like to attack/defend with.\
[2017-3-26. : 2:34 pm]
outlawpoet -- ah ok
[2017-3-26. : 2:33 pm]
Excalibur -- No one 'plays' RoE besides me. They suffer through it as a favor to me sometimes. :P Nah in all seriousness I found a few people on ICCUP who enjoy the map but its a fairly small group.
[2017-3-26. : 2:32 pm]
Moose -- donuts is sort of a de-facto UMS hub because iCCup doesn't have private channels.
[2017-3-26. : 2:32 pm]
outlawpoet -- yeah I stayed until 2010 or 2011
[2017-3-26. : 2:31 pm]
outlawpoet -- where do you play RoE?
[2017-3-26. : 2:31 pm]
Moose -- No, I was dumb enough to stay on East longer than I should have LMAO
[2017-3-26. : 2:31 pm]
outlawpoet -- so 2007 then? lel
[2017-3-26. : 2:31 pm]
Moose -- There's a decent amount on iCCup
[2017-3-26. : 2:31 pm]
Moose -- I left East in the wake of all the flooders and script kiddies.
[2017-3-26. : 2:30 pm]
outlawpoet -- do you guys actually play on useast? op sen-?
[2017-3-26. : 2:29 pm]
outlawpoet -- idk how people play defense maps without it actually
[2017-3-26. : 2:28 pm]
outlawpoet -- just play it on x2 or x3, Kappa. Actually a lot of koreans legit do this for games that take a while to expand in
[2017-3-26. : 2:26 pm]
Moose -- Maybe 20 with a good Bronze rush, but you're pushing it. And it would be unreasonable to expect the opponent to have any sort of army.
[2017-3-26. : 2:26 pm]
outlawpoet -- destroyer had similar ideas about infi, thank god we figured out how to expand and games eventually actually had fighting
[2017-3-26. : 2:25 pm]
Moose -- Nah, can't have PvP until at least 30 minutes in.
[2017-3-26. : 2:25 pm]
outlawpoet -- Excalibur
Excalibur shouted: I like the map when it was harder, but no one else did. If you compare the strength of defenses and time to age up from 3.x to now, its crazy.
imo in war maps difficulty is entirely based on strength of opponent, not the PvE aspect, even if the PvE is relatively slow-paced or requires a large investment
[2017-3-26. : 2:24 pm]
lil-Inferno -- ages are a meme if you can't break through defenses unless you hit golden
[2017-3-26. : 2:22 pm]
Excalibur -- I like the map when it was harder, but no one else did. If you compare the strength of defenses and time to age up from 3.x to now, its crazy.
[2017-3-26. : 2:22 pm]
Excalibur -- 5.7 I think is a 'good' release as far as RoE goes.
[2017-3-26. : 2:22 pm]
Excalibur -- 6.0 is going to be a near full remake. New terrain layout to balance people not having room / too many chokes. Help tips that appear contextually based on how someone is playing. But thats pretty far off.
[2017-3-26. : 2:22 pm]
outlawpoet -- I wasn't a huge fan of the gas mining mechanic, but rise of rome with the same mechanic can be kind of fun
[2017-3-26. : 2:21 pm]
Moose -- The only cheese really left is tank range on bunker and ghost+bunker range on cannon, but cannons are so weak even that's not worth it really
[2017-3-26. : 2:21 pm]
Dem0n -- ya, cannons actually slightly killable LMAO
[2017-3-26. : 2:21 pm]
Moose -- It's a lot different now.
[2017-3-26. : 2:21 pm]
outlawpoet -- but I should play latest before talking more about it, if you've kept working on it
[2017-3-26. : 2:20 pm]
outlawpoet -- MORE playable
[2017-3-26. : 2:20 pm]
outlawpoet -- if specials weren't age-gated or each one had multiple specials or shared ones, it'd be mm
[2017-3-26. : 2:19 pm]
Moose -- Yeah, design around thinking it's totally unreasonable to expect anyone to get an army before they hit their specials LMAO
[2017-3-26. : 2:19 pm]
outlawpoet -- "I also liked babylon in civ world 7.8"
[2017-3-26. : 2:18 pm]
outlawpoet -- yeah that's the version I played. just like you to rely on broken units to win vs superior players SMH
[2017-3-26. : 2:18 pm]
Moose -- No, you took all the cheese out.
[2017-3-26. : 2:18 pm]
Excalibur -- Moose does cheese like a motherfucker. MiniMouse imo.
[2017-3-26. : 2:18 pm]
Moose -- Yeah, Dark Swarm/ling was stupid AF in early versions
[2017-3-26. : 2:17 pm]
Moose -- They haven't been broken for awhile
[2017-3-26. : 2:17 pm]
outlawpoet -- I think I played that once and moose cheesed me with defiler/zergling
[2017-3-26. : 2:17 pm]
Excalibur -- Cracklings arent broken in latest. 5.7.
[2017-3-26. : 2:17 pm]
outlawpoet -- the one with the absolutely fucking broken cracklings?
[2017-3-26. : 2:17 pm]
Excalibur -- Yes.
[2017-3-26. : 2:16 pm]
outlawpoet -- Rise of Empires... is that the one with the gas mining?
[2017-3-26. : 2:16 pm]
lil-Inferno -- I can give you the latest
[2017-3-26. : 2:16 pm]
outlawpoet -- I think I have it
[2017-3-26. : 2:16 pm]
Excalibur -- Rise of Empires. My map that no one except me likes. :)
[2017-3-26. : 2:16 pm]
Moose -- Ya, fix it because Inferno and Dem0n just gonna talk about editing it for rebalance but never do it
[2017-3-26. : 2:16 pm]
Dem0n -- you should get the latest version of it. like 2.8 or something
[2017-3-26. : 2:15 pm]
outlawpoet -- lol is that what it is? what does RoE stand for?
[2017-3-26. : 2:15 pm]
outlawpoet -- would you guys care if I edited it? it can become like lotr diplo and fall of britain, decently balanced diplo maps that no one plays
[2017-3-26. : 2:15 pm]
Moose -- Hey Outlaw, want to play Diplo but without air units? LMAO
[2017-3-26. : 2:15 pm]
Dem0n -- nope
[2017-3-26. : 2:14 pm]
lil-Inferno -- nah
[2017-3-26. : 2:14 pm]
Excalibur -- Hey maybe Outlaw would like to play some RoE :D
[2017-3-26. : 2:13 pm]
Dem0n -- you don't want any changes we suggest LMAO
[2017-3-26. : 2:13 pm]
outlawpoet -- I'd settle for infi-tier imbalanced
[2017-3-26. : 2:13 pm]
Dem0n -- outlawpoet
outlawpoet shouted: it's almost 7.7 tier imbalanced, which is pretty awful
ok
[2017-3-26. : 2:13 pm]
Moose -- Tried to put one zealot in South Africa so you needed more than one ghost to take it, Inferno got mad AF LMAO
[2017-3-26. : 2:13 pm]
outlawpoet -- it's almost 7.7 tier imbalanced, which is pretty awful
[2017-3-26. : 2:13 pm]
lil-Inferno -- ya it's a good map, but needs rebalancing
[2017-3-26. : 2:13 pm]
outlawpoet -- I should rebalance diplo world sometime. I actually played it a lot when I got bored
[2017-3-26. : 2:12 pm]
Moose -- Which is probably why it's the only Diplo map I enjoy LMAO
[2017-3-26. : 2:12 pm]
outlawpoet -- at least it's better than confed's diplo maps lol
[2017-3-26. : 2:12 pm]
Dem0n -- Can't change those terrible things tho cuz Inferno will be mad he can't cheese everything LMOA
[2017-3-26. : 2:11 pm]
outlawpoet -- ah ok. he worked so hard on it. I didn't have the heart to tell him how bad it was as a diplo map lol
[2017-3-26. : 2:11 pm]
lil-Inferno -- As in made it way better LMAO
[2017-3-26. : 2:11 pm]
Moose -- A lot of things are still terrible tho LMAO
[2017-3-26. : 2:11 pm]
Dem0n -- no, Inferno just added some edits
[2017-3-26. : 2:11 pm]
Moose -- Inferno modded it.
[2017-3-26. : 2:11 pm]
lil-Inferno -- It was. I just edited it heavily.

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