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[2017-4-27. : 11:10 pm]
Ashamed -- The new remastered version might help though.. People are asking more questions,etc.
[2017-4-27. : 11:09 pm]
Ashamed -- NudeRaider
NudeRaider shouted: Okay. Then I encourage you to actually put your contributions into posts. That way SEN benefits by having additional content and and you are rewarded your due minerals ;)
The issue is sen isn't structured like this anymore. The site needs to change around before much new content will be created IMO.
[2017-4-27. : 11:07 pm]
Ashamed -- Yah I got 3 minerals for my post I just did :)
[2017-4-27. : 11:07 pm]
NudeRaider -- Okay. Then I encourage you to actually put your contributions into posts. That way SEN benefits by having additional content and and you are rewarded your due minerals ;)
[2017-4-27. : 11:03 pm]
Ashamed -- NudeRaider
NudeRaider shouted: everyone starts at -150. At least that's how it used to be. If you really just earned 6 minerals in all that time I'd be surprised. Or actually not that surprised - it's SEN afterall. :P No really but could you please watch your mineral count before and after posting please? If there's actually a bug we should at least know about it.
nah its prob about 6 lol.. I have made like 3 post since being back lol. That is me going back to the structure of the site. This shoutbox is the brunt of the material now ha.
[2017-4-27. : 11:02 pm]
NudeRaider -- Ashamed
Ashamed shouted: why -150 lol?
to avoid multi-account abuse. Consider it your probation. ;)
[2017-4-27. : 11:02 pm]
NudeRaider -- everyone starts at -150. At least that's how it used to be. If you really just earned 6 minerals in all that time I'd be surprised. Or actually not that surprised - it's SEN afterall. :P No really but could you please watch your mineral count before and after posting please? If there's actually a bug we should at least know about it.
[2017-4-27. : 11:01 pm]
Ashamed -- why -150 lol?
[2017-4-27. : 10:59 pm]
Ashamed -- I am pretty sure it was at 0 when I rejoined... but I could be wrong
[2017-4-27. : 10:58 pm]
NudeRaider -- you started at -150 though.
[2017-4-27. : 10:57 pm]
Ashamed -- NudeRaider
NudeRaider shouted: Ashamed not really. All it needs is time. That's how it's always been. But I also already proposed to lower prices, because indeed it doesn't seem appropriate anymore having to wait 3 years for anything but maybe 0.75 - 1 year for premium items.
I have been back for like 3 months now... Pretty active get on 4+ times a week and i have 6 minerals ha. I also wouldn't of quit if this site did better on the sc2 transition :(
[2017-4-27. : 10:55 pm]
NudeRaider -- Ashamed
Ashamed shouted: Now the site structure has changed - and really only way for me to get material is via spam crappy material ha.
not really. All it needs is time. That's how it's always been. But I also already proposed to lower prices, because indeed it doesn't seem appropriate anymore having to wait 3 years for anything but maybe 0.75 - 1 year for premium items.
[2017-4-27. : 10:54 pm]
Ashamed -- NudeRaider
NudeRaider shouted: Ashamed hm. Yeah I can see why this may be frustrating. BUT THATS WHAT YOU GET FOR LEAVING US, YOU UNGRATEFUL BASTARD! :P (jk)
It wouldn't be as bad.. If I could earn the shit somehow now lol. As this remastered version is released there might be more reasonings for my to actually post to the forums ha.
[2017-4-27. : 10:52 pm]
NudeRaider -- Ashamed
Ashamed shouted: NudeRaider My point is I have done this... I have been apart of this community since V2... but since I took a break 4 or so years ago... None of my past accomplishments are rewarded. That is my point. I honestly Don't care at all. I am just trying to show you the other side of the coin.
hm. Yeah I can see why this may be frustrating. BUT THATS WHAT YOU GET FOR LEAVING US, YOU UNGRATEFUL BASTARD! :P (jk)
[2017-4-27. : 10:51 pm]
Ashamed -- Now the site structure has changed - and really only way for me to get material is via spam crappy material ha.
[2017-4-27. : 10:50 pm]
Ashamed -- NudeRaider
NudeRaider shouted: Ashamed that doesn't seem right. 1000s of post should easily need you hundreds, if not thousands of minerals. Have you gone through a reset?
Most of my work came before the new mineral system... Old version of SEN i had plenty, but what 6 was created it did not have mineral system... Thus I was skipped 100% lol.
[2017-4-27. : 10:49 pm]
NudeRaider -- *easily net you
[2017-4-27. : 10:48 pm]
NudeRaider -- Ashamed
Ashamed shouted: I have over 1000 post and 6 minerals ha.. I have lead Map making communities that were big parts of SEN.. The current system doesn't work at all ><
that doesn't seem right. 1000s of post should easily need you hundreds, if not thousands of minerals. Have you gone through a reset?
[2017-4-27. : 10:48 pm]
Ashamed -- NudeRaider
NudeRaider shouted: humble yourself (not you, personally, Ashamed), "wait" 2-3 years for your name color, like everyone that has one did, and it feels so much better when you finally get it. I remember the time when I was approaching the wealth and frantically checked the store every day to wait for a good deal :lol:
My point is I have done this... I have been apart of this community since V2... but since I took a break 4 or so years ago... None of my past accomplishments are rewarded. That is my point. I honestly Don't care at all. I am just trying to show you the other side of the coin.
[2017-4-27. : 10:46 pm]
NudeRaider -- humble yourself (not you, personally, Ashamed), "wait" 2-3 years for your name color, like everyone that has one did, and it feels so much better when you finally get it. I remember the time when I was approaching the wealth and frantically checked the store every day to wait for a good deal :lol:
[2017-4-27. : 10:46 pm]
Moose -- Yeah, need better ways of doing member recognition
[2017-4-27. : 10:45 pm]
Ashamed -- I have over 1000 post and 6 minerals ha.. I have lead Map making communities that were big parts of SEN.. The current system doesn't work at all ><
[2017-4-27. : 10:44 pm]
Ashamed -- NudeRaider
NudeRaider shouted: probably if people felt less entitled, or needed instant gratification, this wouldn't be an issue.
I can come from the exact opposite perspective though.. Since Sen has changed.. I can't earn minerals even though I have put plenty of material into this community.
[2017-4-27. : 10:43 pm]
Ashamed -- NudeRaider
NudeRaider shouted: For me it's more of an emotional issue than a rational one. TBH removing minerals feels like ripping SENs heart out. I always enjoyed the idea of rewarding long-term commitment to SEN while not denying anything vital. (And yes, that includes the time where I was new and had nothing.) It would probably be enough to tweak store prices to account for lower activity.
Meh it happened in Indiana jones.. Wasn't that bad IMO ><
[2017-4-27. : 10:42 pm]
NudeRaider -- probably if people felt less entitled, or needed instant gratification, this wouldn't be an issue.
[2017-4-27. : 10:37 pm]
Suicidal Insanity -- I'm not taking em away, I'm not a tax collector :D
[2017-4-27. : 10:36 pm]
Moose -- Ya, that's why you don't rip them out and reimplement them as themed karma C|X^D
[2017-4-27. : 10:36 pm]
Dem0n -- I actually couldn't care less, but can you just give me a name color for free then LMAO
[2017-4-27. : 10:35 pm]
NudeRaider -- For me it's more of an emotional issue than a rational one. TBH removing minerals feels like ripping SENs heart out. I always enjoyed the idea of rewarding long-term commitment to SEN while not denying anything vital. (And yes, that includes the time where I was new and had nothing.) It would probably be enough to tweak store prices to account for lower activity.
[2017-4-27. : 10:34 pm]
Moose -- memes
[2017-4-27. : 10:32 pm]
jjf28 -- what will I get in return if you take away my hard-earned capital? :O
[2017-4-27. : 10:25 pm]
jjf28 -- Suicidal Insanity
Suicidal Insanity shouted: but, but.... We require more minerals !
[2017-4-27. : 10:18 pm]
NudeRaider -- Mini Moose 2707
Mini Moose 2707 shouted: And the quality of your shouts and posts O________________O
that last one :lol:
[2017-4-27. : 10:12 pm]
Suicidal Insanity -- but, but.... We require more minerals !
[2017-4-27. : 9:58 pm]
Dem0n -- Take away my minerals and I'll bop you so hard
[2017-4-27. : 9:52 pm]
Moose -- Indeed. Minerals should have been tied to maps and other things as well, but they never well. Not a good implementation, tbh.
[2017-4-27. : 9:49 pm]
Ashamed -- Mini Moose 2707
Mini Moose 2707 shouted: And the quality of your shouts and posts O________________O
I kinda agree Moose... Mineral system is good for a heavy traffic forum site, but for sen right now it doesn't seem to make a whole lot of sense.
[2017-4-27. : 9:34 pm]
Voyager7456 -- Mini Moose 2707
Mini Moose 2707 shouted: And the quality of your shouts and posts O________________O
well fuck
[2017-4-27. : 9:32 pm]
Moose -- And the quality of your shouts and posts O________________O
[2017-4-27. : 9:31 pm]
Voyager7456 -- absurd
[2017-4-27. : 9:31 pm]
Moose -- From content creation O______O
[2017-4-27. : 9:30 pm]
Voyager7456 -- no name colors, no ranks... where am I going to derive my sense of self-worth from
[2017-4-27. : 9:29 pm]
Moose -- If ranks bite the dust, though, name colors for mods and staff might be food for identifying, tho.
[2017-4-27. : 9:29 pm]
Moose -- Nah, just bop name colors. Or give free colors, like who cares LMAO
[2017-4-27. : 9:28 pm]
Voyager7456 -- fuck, better get my name color before Moose bops all the minerals
[2017-4-27. : 9:26 pm]
Moose -- TBH, boutta bop minerals and reimplement minerals in reddit karma style LMAO
[2017-4-27. : 9:25 pm]
CecilSunkure -- look at all these productive posts that deserve MINERALS awarded to them
[2017-4-27. : 9:22 pm]
Voyager7456 -- Recipe for fun, IMO
[2017-4-27. : 9:22 pm]
Moose -- What could go wrong?
[2017-4-27. : 9:20 pm]
CecilSunkure -- it can execute arbitrary code, and has network access
[2017-4-27. : 9:16 pm]
Voyager7456 -- So occasionally a map formats your hard drive or steals your credit card information, big deal
[2017-4-27. : 9:14 pm]
Ashamed -- The remastered lings look creepy
[2017-4-27. : 9:12 pm]
Ashamed -- Voyager7456
Voyager7456 shouted: Sounds fun
Yeah it sucks because it may be fun to create new stuff.. You can't help but justify blizzards actions in fighting against them ha
[2017-4-27. : 8:59 pm]
Voyager7456 -- Sounds fun
[2017-4-27. : 8:54 pm]
Veta -- Koreans unpatched EUD, fish server is full of this
[2017-4-27. : 8:51 pm]
Voyager7456 -- woah, Korean maps are crazy
[2017-4-27. : 6:39 pm]
Dem0n -- wut
[2017-4-27. : 4:27 pm]
Broflamingo -- Also replays crash (potentially) on you if there was a pause in the game. Can't upload my 1v3. Owned Mingo.
[2017-4-27. : 4:26 pm]
Broflamingo -- Veta
Veta shouted: Anyone know what causes DESYNC on large multiplayer maps? I have a lot of triggers but if it's something specific I could remove it
Not sure if this is relevant but if you are OBS in a match, there is potential for you to get desync'd.
[2017-4-27. : 4:09 pm]
Pauper -- Kay.. sorry for the spam. It actually appears to be the .SCX/.SCM file that is changing. If you make any changes to the MPQ file and close the document a bunch of stuff changes in the file. I give up :(
[2017-4-27. : 3:49 pm]
Pauper -- https://imgur.com/a/MBLzW - Example of difference - Now.. there are still only 7 characters between the two.. but the space where I changed the tileset from 00 > 07 is larger?? and it is enough to offset everything after.
[2017-4-27. : 3:38 pm]
Pauper -- I think I may of figured out why it is erroring out. I copied the text from the file I change and compared it to the orginal. The change one has an extra space in it.. that is shifting everyone over one space. However.... it doesn't do this in the hex editor? Or at least not from what I can see. Is there a preferred editor you guys have?
[2017-4-27. : 3:21 pm]
Pauper -- Oh ignore that Oh_Man, you were talking about the text stacking. I noticed that when you use the new-line and center options they will work but don't actually make a new line and make them stack.
[2017-4-27. : 3:18 pm]
Pauper -- Sigh.. that is sad news Oh_Man. Do we know if editting the .CHK file will ever come back? Farty, I am just changing the player colors. 00 > 08 01 > 09 02 > 10 just to see if it works but SC won't load the map.
[2017-4-27. : 3:08 pm]
O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- Pauper
Pauper shouted: I have a weird feeling that StarCraft is checking a signature in the file when opening a map (not sure if they did this before patch 1.18).
what are you changing? a lot of sections the editor just writes to that SC actually reads
[2017-4-27. : 3:04 pm]
Oh_Man -- Pauper
Pauper shouted: Is it still possible to stack in-game text? Hmm.. any idea why StarEdit will open the modded .CHK files but StarCraft says they're invalid?
I believe they are disabled as of these patches.
[2017-4-27. : 2:59 pm]
Pauper -- I have a weird feeling that StarCraft is checking a signature in the file when opening a map (not sure if they did this before patch 1.18).
[2017-4-27. : 2:58 pm]
Pauper -- Is it still possible to stack in-game text? Hmm.. any idea why StarEdit will open the modded .CHK files but StarCraft says they're invalid?
[2017-4-27. : 2:58 pm]
O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- Pauper
Pauper shouted: If I make a change to the .CHK scenario file do I have to do anything to the VCOD section? StarEdit will open the map with changes but StarCraft will not.
VCOD never changes. It's not a checksum, it's more like a signature (I honestly have no idea why it's there)

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