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[2016-7-17. : 9:01 pm]
Sie_Sayoka -- my own test map
[2016-7-17. : 9:00 pm]
CecilSunkure -- Oh, are you looking at an example map for reference? One that works?
[2016-7-17. : 9:00 pm]
Sie_Sayoka -- and now it crashes whenever i make one
[2016-7-17. : 9:00 pm]
Sie_Sayoka -- it worked fine for the first time but when i made a second one it crashed
[2016-7-17. : 9:00 pm]
Sie_Sayoka -- no idea i have it set so it disables them upon creation
[2016-7-17. : 8:58 pm]
CecilSunkure -- Like non-standard map sizes
[2016-7-17. : 8:58 pm]
CecilSunkure -- Is it one of those things where you need to join a normal game first before you can join your map?
[2016-7-17. : 8:50 pm]
Sie_Sayoka -- disabled interceptors crash the game :(
[2016-7-17. : 8:42 pm]
CecilSunkure -- Mini Moose 2707
Mini Moose 2707 shouted: Yeah, whenever I profile at work, my getters and setters are pretty insignificant. Mostly Java tho.
Sounds like cache misses
[2016-7-17. : 8:29 pm]
Verdant -- and it's not going well
[2016-7-17. : 8:29 pm]
Verdant -- I'm trying to trick the engine into doing something I'd like
[2016-7-17. : 8:27 pm]
Moose -- TBH, tho, I've mostly avoided inheritance
[2016-7-17. : 8:23 pm]
Verdant -- anyone here that's experienced with the sc2 editor?
[2016-7-17. : 8:22 pm]
Moose -- Some of that sounds like C++ nonsense to me
[2016-7-17. : 8:21 pm]
Moose -- Yeah, whenever I profile at work, my getters and setters are pretty insignificant. Mostly Java tho.
[2016-7-17. : 8:18 pm]
CecilSunkure -- At work the difference is they are trying to OOP
[2016-7-17. : 8:18 pm]
CecilSunkure -- So maybe this is just C++ bs, but, I write C++ all the time in my personal code without these problems
[2016-7-17. : 8:18 pm]
CecilSunkure -- And then a large recompile
[2016-7-17. : 8:18 pm]
CecilSunkure -- Adding another integer becomes a big hassle involving 3-5 files and multiple interfaces
[2016-7-17. : 8:17 pm]
CecilSunkure -- The attempt was polymorphism, encaspulation and inheritence. All 3 resulted in a ridiculous, slow to compile, slow to maintain, slow to run mess
[2016-7-17. : 8:16 pm]
CecilSunkure -- That's typical OOP bs
[2016-7-17. : 8:16 pm]
CecilSunkure -- They are gettors on virtual functions, going down the callstack like 5 levels deep
[2016-7-17. : 8:16 pm]
CecilSunkure -- Yeah actually
[2016-7-17. : 8:14 pm]
Moose -- But really, though, are you profiling code and having simple getters take up a significant part of execution time?
[2016-7-17. : 8:12 pm]
CecilSunkure -- Mini Moose 2707
Mini Moose 2707 shouted: If my getter doesn't actually do anything else, can't the compiler just optimize away the extra layer anyway?
Slowness comes from memory access patterns
[2016-7-17. : 7:44 pm]
Excalibur -- Moose is in the business of DANKMEMES and boy business is good.
[2016-7-17. : 7:43 pm]
Moose -- I could see worrying about it in embedded systems or resource-limited environments, but that's not my line of work
[2016-7-17. : 7:42 pm]
Sacrieur -- He made some toy for a class.
[2016-7-17. : 7:42 pm]
Sacrieur -- He didn't make .NET's or Java's or C++'s compiler.
[2016-7-17. : 7:41 pm]
lil-Inferno -- Dem0n
Dem0n shouted: compiler ez af to make imo. i've done it
If this nigga right here could do it, any mouth breather could LMAO
[2016-7-17. : 7:41 pm]
Dem0n -- jk that shit was hard AF LMAO
[2016-7-17. : 7:41 pm]
Dem0n -- compiler ez af to make imo. i've done it
[2016-7-17. : 7:41 pm]
Sacrieur -- Some really, really smart people built the compiler. And it's going to optimize shit better than any one of us could.
[2016-7-17. : 7:40 pm]
Sacrieur -- I don't really understand the underlying details and I don't have to.
[2016-7-17. : 7:40 pm]
Sacrieur -- Sure, and I'm sure it does.
[2016-7-17. : 7:40 pm]
Moose -- If my getter doesn't actually do anything else, can't the compiler just optimize away the extra layer anyway?
[2016-7-17. : 7:39 pm]
Sacrieur -- python compiles into C code using the standard library.
[2016-7-17. : 7:39 pm]
Sacrieur -- Besides, you're not going to do better than a compiler anyway.
[2016-7-17. : 7:39 pm]
lil-Inferno -- CecilSunkure
CecilSunkure shouted: lil-Inferno Or, both become hardware intensive because OOP LMAO
But luckily we're in 2016 and computers can handle this sort of thing effortlessly now ROFLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
[2016-7-17. : 7:39 pm]
Sacrieur -- Who cares? Memory is cheap and rewriting code is expensive.
[2016-7-17. : 7:38 pm]
CecilSunkure -- lil-Inferno
lil-Inferno shouted: Dem0n Unnecessary performance increase for your shitty calculator app and/or 2D pixel game that isn't hardware intensive at all LMAO
Or, both become hardware intensive because OOP LMAO
[2016-7-17. : 7:38 pm]
Dem0n -- ya gotta save like 4 bits LMAO
[2016-7-17. : 7:37 pm]
lil-Inferno -- Dem0n
Dem0n shouted: why do I care tho?
Unnecessary performance increase for your shitty calculator app and/or 2D pixel game that isn't hardware intensive at all LMAO
[2016-7-17. : 7:37 pm]
CecilSunkure -- why one*
[2016-7-17. : 7:37 pm]
CecilSunkure -- Well you don't have to, you just asked one might use one
[2016-7-17. : 7:37 pm]
Dem0n -- I know that's how they work; that doesn't mean I want to use them
[2016-7-17. : 7:37 pm]
Dem0n -- why do I care tho?
[2016-7-17. : 7:37 pm]
CecilSunkure -- Dem0n
Dem0n shouted: Why would you want to use a pointer LMAO
Because that's how computers actually work
[2016-7-17. : 7:36 pm]
lil-Inferno -- Smh I hate when people use TABS instead of SPACES in their OBJECT ORIENTED code.
[2016-7-17. : 7:36 pm]
Dem0n -- Why would you want to use a pointer LMAO
[2016-7-17. : 7:36 pm]
Sacrieur -- That's worse.
[2016-7-17. : 7:36 pm]
CecilSunkure -- Sacrieur
Sacrieur shouted: you use a getter/setter for any property, not just integers
Or you can use a pointer
[2016-7-17. : 7:35 pm]
Sacrieur -- you use a getter/setter for any property, not just integers
[2016-7-17. : 7:35 pm]
Moose -- > Change private members of a class > Have to recompile calling code > Nice encapsulation LMAO
[2016-7-17. : 7:34 pm]
CecilSunkure -- Mini Moose 2707
Mini Moose 2707 shouted: I could've just put the desired side effects into the getter/setter and not have to worry about all the calling code using the public field directly, code which I may not even control
Most gettor/settor I've ever seen just return or set integers
[2016-7-17. : 7:34 pm]
Moose -- C++ isn't even a good OO language, IMO
[2016-7-17. : 7:33 pm]
CecilSunkure -- C++
[2016-7-17. : 7:33 pm]
Sacrieur -- Do you just do everything in Haskell?
[2016-7-17. : 7:33 pm]
CecilSunkure -- Like at work or at home?
[2016-7-17. : 7:33 pm]
Sacrieur -- Just in one big procedural statement?
[2016-7-17. : 7:33 pm]
Sacrieur -- Uh, so how do you code anything, then?
[2016-7-17. : 7:32 pm]
CecilSunkure -- Sacrieur
Sacrieur shouted: And then quickly fired after you demonstrate your incapability to follow our established software pattern.
I didn't say I couldn't. I just said it's bad.
[2016-7-17. : 7:32 pm]
Sacrieur -- And then quickly fired after you demonstrate your incapability to follow our established software pattern.
[2016-7-17. : 7:32 pm]
Moose -- I could've just put the desired side effects into the getter/setter and not have to worry about all the calling code using the public field directly, code which I may not even control
[2016-7-17. : 7:32 pm]
lil-Inferno -- CecilSunkure
CecilSunkure shouted: Dem0n OOP is only good for interviews
Except for, you know, when you use it during your job LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
[2016-7-17. : 7:31 pm]
CecilSunkure -- AKA if Sac were interviewing me I'd have to deceive him into thinking I'm an OOP-head to get hired
[2016-7-17. : 7:31 pm]
Sacrieur -- Maybe if you're writing COBOL
[2016-7-17. : 7:31 pm]
CecilSunkure -- Dem0n
Dem0n shouted: OOP gets fat $tack$ tho so whatever LMAO
OOP is only good for interviews
[2016-7-17. : 7:31 pm]
Dem0n -- OOP gets fat $tack$ tho so whatever LMAO
[2016-7-17. : 7:31 pm]
lil-Inferno -- While you're arguing about OOP sucking ass, I'm using it to get rich AF C|B^ )

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