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[2017-3-24. : 12:16 am] zsnakezz -- 3/5 ratio is really good at getting unsociable and uncooperative people to be sociable and cooperative +1 inferno[2017-3-24. : 12:14 am]  jjf28 -- relatively unimportant issue in any case - lets get auto registration, 100% open primaries/caucuses, instant runoff voting and mail-in options passed at the federal level before we mess with districts/the EC[2017-3-24. : 12:12 am] zsnakezz -- so those working on their weaknesses would effectively be seen as a 1/5 extraperson[2017-3-24. : 12:12 am] zsnakezz -- it makes sure that those who cooperate receive 1/5 extra benefits for being sociable.[2017-3-24. : 12:11 am] lil-Inferno -- tbh fam, let's just make people outside of cities only have 3/5 of a vote[2017-3-24. : 12:09 am] zsnakezz -- with restrictions for the sake of preserving humanity and not getting everything done all at once[2017-3-24. : 12:06 am] zsnakezz -- education is free if you know how to educate, uneducated people making supreme decisions for everybody has a cost[2017-3-24. : 12:04 am] zsnakezz -- until they otherwise took the steps themselves to put them at a better spot[2017-3-24. : 12:04 am] zsnakezz -- and them being valued less during cultural and political decisions perhaps is only natural[2017-3-24. : 12:03 am] zsnakezz -- what im saying is, perhaps people who dont live among very many other people, perhaps should be valued as such, and people should have inject themselves into culture before being valued the same as those who did[2017-3-24. : 12:01 am] jjf28 -- zsnakezzzsnakezz shouted: im saying remove the factors, it is a very simple raw number ok then I'm highlighting the problem with that jjf28jjf28 shouted: zsnakezz we don't necessarily want the populous areas to screw over the more scarcely populated areas - then again the more scarcely populated areas voted for this scam of a Trump presidency so maybe it's for their own good  [2017-3-24. : 12:00 am]  Moose -- zsnakezzzsnakezz shouted: plant a fucking micro chip into people's brains, just so they can be accounted for during elections as an actual living human being american sack o flesh Yeah, what could go wrong ROFL[2017-3-24. : 12:00 am] jjf28 -- are you suggesting 1 vote = 1 vote or suggesting straight lines are one and 1 vote = (1 vote) * (tons of factors)[2017-3-24. : 12:00 am] zsnakezz -- plant a fucking micro chip into people's brains, just so they can be accounted for during elections as an actual living human being american sack o flesh[2017-3-24. : 12:00 am] Moose -- jjf28jjf28 shouted: zsnakezz we don't necessarily want the populous areas to screw over the more scarcely populated areas - then again the more scarcely populated areas voted for this scam of a Trump presidency so maybe it's for their own good The amusing part is the people of the rural areas were saying the same shit about Obama and populated areas like NY and CA 4 and 8 years ago LMAOOOOOO[2017-3-23. : 11:58 pm] zsnakezz -- im saying remove the areas, remove sections, value everything on the whole at its most raw numerical value to achieve optimal presidentness[2017-3-23. : 11:57 pm] jjf28 -- zsnakezzzsnakezz shouted: perhaps take the lines out of the equation we don't necessarily want the populous areas to screw over the more scarcely populated areas - then again the more scarcely populated areas voted for this scam of a Trump presidency so maybe it's for their own good [2017-3-23. : 11:57 pm] zsnakezz -- oh im fucking up? time to go talk to idaho even though idaho sucks balls[2017-3-23. : 11:56 pm] zsnakezz -- all it does it give a president an escape route state they can always go to for maximum support[2017-3-23. : 11:56 pm]  Lanthanide -- FPP with electorate-only MPs is what the UK use, and it's a stupid system[2017-3-23. : 11:55 pm] zsnakezz -- perhaps land area, due to it's random nature of what actually occupies it in terms of resources, should be valued at its true value[2017-3-23. : 11:54 pm] zsnakezz -- iiiiiiii think we may put too much influence in where people live in terms of how people get elected[2017-3-23. : 11:54 pm] Moose -- Yeah, for 10 minutes. They'll probably maintain bipartisanship on the usual issues, though, such as money and fucking people over though LMAOOOOOOOOO[2017-3-23. : 11:54 pm] Lanthanide -- an individual area could say they'd vote for the opposition, which might scare the government, but I don't think they often did[2017-3-23. : 11:53 pm] jjf28 -- @ zsnakezzzsnakezz shouted: perhaps trump is the meme we need to achieve bipartisanship [2017-3-23. : 11:53 pm] Lanthanide -- even when we didn't have MMP and used electorates-only with FPP, (really before my time), I still don't think it meant a lot[2017-3-23. : 11:53 pm] zsnakezz -- you are saying it's harder to impeach people who abused the system then those who had a natural following?[2017-3-23. : 11:53 pm] Lanthanide -- it's difficult to vote electorate MPs out of office because we use MMP, so most well-known MPs who happen to lose their electorate will get into parliament via the Party LIst process anyway[2017-3-23. : 11:51 pm] Lanthanide -- we have electorate MPs, who are voted in by a particular geographic area, but in practice it doesn't mean a lot (as much as they like to pretend that it does)[2017-3-23. : 11:51 pm] Lanthanide -- I'm not entirely sure what the point of the 'whip' office is; presumably they talk to all of the MPs and get their views back, and report it to the party leadership? So if the leader says "we will vote A", then even if all MPs don't agree with it, they will get the feedback from the MPs via the whip[2017-3-23. : 11:50 pm] jjf28 -- the new healthcare bill is unpopular and dumb enough to get some bipartisan opposition[2017-3-23. : 11:50 pm] Lanthanide -- it's called "party whipping" and each party has someone called a 'whip'[2017-3-23. : 11:49 pm] Lanthanide -- they're almost always social issues, like legalisation of gay marriage and prostitution law reform[2017-3-23. : 11:49 pm] Lanthanide -- there are certain votes on policies that are called "conscience votes", in which MPs can vote 'their own conscience' aka can vote however they want, generally guided by their constituency[2017-3-23. : 11:48 pm] Lanthanide -- NudeRaiderNudeRaider shouted: is this normal? That everyone votes by party policy? it's normal in NZ, unfortunately[2017-3-23. : 11:44 pm] zsnakezz -- to that, i award him the permission to always be skeptical of everyone else[2017-3-23. : 11:41 pm] zsnakezz -- "hello my name is demon, everything you do and will ever do i hate because i hate myself for not being as popular as ive always wanted"[2017-3-23. : 11:40 pm] zsnakezz -- but the things that create meme city can also be used to be productive |
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