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[2017-7-16. : 8:18 pm]  Voyager7456 -- Mini Moose 2707Mini Moose 2707 shouted: What if I add a new page but the only content on it is a link to a topic LMAO  [2017-7-16. : 8:18 pm] Voyager7456 -- Hey pouiy any idea what might be causing the PyMPQ bug I ran into?[2017-7-16. : 8:17 pm]  Moose -- What if I add a new page but the only content on it is a link to a topic LMAO[2017-7-16. : 8:17 pm] thekian -- So would the other thread. If having multiple places for listing modding tools is necessary, then at least part of the portal would be seen by more people.[2017-7-16. : 8:16 pm] LoveLess -- Dunno, if it were your intent, what's wrong with just making a topic like we have for everything, ever. It will show up in a search engine just as much as a unique portal.[2017-7-16. : 8:15 pm] Moose -- LoveLessLoveLess shouted: Mini Moose 2707 They want you to make a separate page/portal hat has a list of the modding tools for some reason. And they don't want to put any effort into helping with it. It's okay, I want to move the site to a new server but I don't feel like putting effort into that either [2017-7-16. : 8:14 pm] IskatuMesk -- LoveLessLoveLess shouted: Mini Moose 2707 They want you to make a separate page/portal hat has a list of the modding tools for some reason. And they don't want to put any effort into helping with it. Not sure what made you think about the latter considering I just said I planned to do this for CC LMAO[2017-7-16. : 8:14 pm] thekian -- There we go.  I'm still not sure why we need that 'emoji', but I'm sure there's a reason.[2017-7-16. : 8:14 pm] LoveLess -- Mini Moose 2707Mini Moose 2707 shouted: I thought They want you to make a separate page/portal hat has a list of the modding tools for some reason. And they don't want to put any effort into helping with it. was putting them in pinned threads[2017-7-16. : 8:14 pm] Moose -- Pr0nogoPr0nogo shouted: cecil and krazy are the same person right? Ya, Cecil is the right-wing account, KrayZee is the left-wing account[2017-7-16. : 8:13 pm] Voyager7456 -- Mini Moose 2707Mini Moose 2707 shouted: I thought I am was putting them in pinned threads[2017-7-16. : 8:12 pm] thekian -- Who even has the necessary administrative permissions to create said site list?[2017-7-16. : 8:11 pm] Voyager7456 -- IskatuMeskIskatuMesk shouted: Like, let's look at SEN for a second. You guys have like 7 general discussion forums for... well, I'm sure you had a good reason. But in practice it's just needless abstraction for the sake of it. I would be in favor of nuking all the discussion forums but Null  [2017-7-16. : 8:11 pm] IskatuMesk -- For the record, I don't give a shit what someone lists in a forum post. I'm just saying that if you wanted a place to actually list tools it would be best to do it on the site itself.[2017-7-16. : 8:10 pm] thekian -- Mini Moose 2707Mini Moose 2707 shouted: SEN Drama, vintage meme O_________O Dem0n wasn't here, so we had to make do.[2017-7-16. : 8:10 pm] IskatuMesk -- Like, let's look at SEN for a second. You guys have like 7 general discussion forums for... well, I'm sure you had a good reason. But in practice it's just needless abstraction for the sake of it.[2017-7-16. : 8:09 pm] LoveLess -- Why should he do what you say? He is not a representative of the site, just a user. Make your own topic.[2017-7-16. : 8:09 pm] IskatuMesk -- Splitting them up into multiple sections of a site is just needless abstraction. A header that separates "modern" and "deprecated" is enough.[2017-7-16. : 8:09 pm] thekian -- I suggested to Pr0nogo that he simply LIST them. Having multiple modding tool threads is just going to make everything ultimately end up as the same mess as the rest of the forums.[2017-7-16. : 8:08 pm] Voyager7456 -- People get confused enough as it is, we don't need to muddy the waters further by also listing 20 deprecated tools.[2017-7-16. : 8:08 pm] IskatuMesk -- Like, plainly no one should ever be using ICE. It is corruption the game. No one should be using Stargraft (even though I used it for countless years) because it is "mouse over menu and crash" the game. But I'd keep them available.[2017-7-16. : 8:08 pm] Voyager7456 -- IskatuMeskIskatuMesk shouted: I would always keep old tools available if only for the sake of reference. Sc2's biggest enemy was that the one intern who made the editor used absolutely no past reference for how to design a user interface, even though many great examples existed in every other Blizzard title including Diablo 2. IskatuMeskIskatuMesk shouted: Likewise, if someone was to research BW modding and the tools, if only for ui design, having every piece of history available is an excellent learning resource. Ok, but the place for that is not in a topic where you're recommending tools to new modders.[2017-7-16. : 8:07 pm] LoveLess -- thekianthekian shouted: LoveLess Let's make this clear. I am not advocating for the use of X-tra. My POINT is that both should remain available, so that whoever may want to use either may. My point has nothing to do with x-tra, that was an example. It's that should you want to advocate the use of other tools because you dislike the ones currently being listed, then go make a secondary topic to Pr0nogo's to reflect that. Instead you are just here complaining that he did anything at all.[2017-7-16. : 8:06 pm] IskatuMesk -- Likewise, if someone was to research BW modding and the tools, if only for ui design, having every piece of history available is an excellent learning resource.[2017-7-16. : 8:06 pm] IskatuMesk -- I would always keep old tools available if only for the sake of reference. Sc2's biggest enemy was that the one intern who made the editor used absolutely no past reference for how to design a user interface, even though many great examples existed in every other Blizzard title including Diablo 2.[2017-7-16. : 8:05 pm] thekian -- LoveLessLoveLess shouted: thekian I wonder why... Hm... :thinking: Let's make this clear. I am not advocating for the use of X-tra. My POINT is that both should remain available, so that whoever may want to use either may.[2017-7-16. : 8:03 pm] Moose -- thekianthekian shouted: Stormcoast Fortress actually seems to have not died yet. There's even a news post about SCMDraft from a couple weeks ago... Don't look at the date of the post before that LMAO[2017-7-16. : 8:03 pm] LoveLess -- thekianthekian shouted: Stormcoast Fortress actually seems to have not died yet. There's even a news post about SCMDraft from a couple weeks ago... I wonder why... Hm... :thinking:[2017-7-16. : 8:03 pm] IskatuMesk -- BW's greatest enemy has always been that there were plainly *too many* sites. SA, CC, SME, Camsys, SEN, Maplantis, OI, Ashworld, AEN, infinite subdomains, Stormcoast, the list goes on[2017-7-16. : 8:03 pm] thekian -- Stormcoast Fortress actually seems to have not died yet. There's even a news post about SCMDraft from a couple weeks ago...[2017-7-16. : 8:02 pm] IskatuMesk -- I complained when Herc said he wanted to fragment the community even further, because that was something that was definitely a bad move.[2017-7-16. : 8:02 pm]  Pr0nogo -- too bad lavarinth is rich or i would have tried to buy CC from him, just because that would be funny[2017-7-16. : 8:01 pm] Moose -- LoveLessLoveLess shouted: Mini Moose 2707 The original site by Yoshi was just a message boad iirc It was a site that used IPB as a forum[2017-7-16. : 8:01 pm] IskatuMesk -- Voyager7456Voyager7456 shouted: Wait, you're gonna complain about SEN's activity/growth and then list SAMods? Was in response to someone asking about what other BW sites there were. I'm not saying either site is active. [2017-7-16. : 8:01 pm] Voyager7456 -- Wait, you're gonna complain about SEN's activity/growth and then list SAMods? [2017-7-16. : 8:00 pm] IskatuMesk -- thekianthekian shouted: IskatuMesk The most important thing would probably be just to save all modding tools, good and bad, for posterity. Who knows, maybe someone can even find a use for Arsenal III... Like a repository? Agreed.[2017-7-16. : 8:00 pm] thekian -- IskatuMeskIskatuMesk shouted: so, I don't see a point in listing modding applications at all, tbh. The most important thing would probably be just to save all modding tools, good and bad, for posterity. Who knows, maybe someone can even find a use for Arsenal III...[2017-7-16. : 8:00 pm] LoveLess -- Mini Moose 2707Mini Moose 2707 shouted: Everything wasn't integrated into IPB until v4 The original site by Yoshi was just a message boad iirc[2017-7-16. : 7:59 pm] IskatuMesk -- well, CC is very questionable right now. I guess Lavarinth will fix it once he actually knows how. Then I plan to look into seeing if I can actually get some content on there.[2017-7-16. : 7:59 pm] thekian -- Pr0nogoPr0nogo shouted: not true, we get tens of new people each month!!!!! Except they're all bots...[2017-7-16. : 7:59 pm] Voyager7456 -- IskatuMeskIskatuMesk shouted: Yep. Which means growth will always go to sites like TL instead IskatuMeskIskatuMesk shouted: so, I don't see a point in listing modding applications at all, tbh. Ok.[2017-7-16. : 7:58 pm] thekian -- Eh... what other BroodWar sites are there? BWAPI's only left as a GitHub page, that one modding wiki died...[2017-7-16. : 7:58 pm] Moose -- LoveLessLoveLess shouted: SEN started as nothing but a message board though. The webpages were added as an extension. wut |