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[2018-3-02. : 6:06 pm] Suicidal Insanity -- The trigger pointers in the listview are just swapped, + nodes in the list[2018-3-02. : 6:05 pm] Suicidal Insanity -- Wonder if its timing. But the UI only stores pointers to the triggers themselves, and does not manipulate the underlying list[2018-3-02. : 5:38 pm] thekian -- Tried it again, saved the dump file. How do you want me to send it to you?[2018-3-02. : 5:38 pm] thekian -- The map? I just created a map randomly (I believe it was space station and empty space) with the default triggers.[2018-3-02. : 5:35 pm] Suicidal Insanity -- thekianthekian shouted: Suicidal Insanity Was able to reproduce issue. SCMDraft crashes if you try to move a trigger down (with 'O') when it's already at the bottom. Not happening for me with two test maps, can you PM me the map + the crash dump file? Then I'll fix it in a bit[2018-3-02. : 5:33 pm] thekian -- Pr0nogoPr0nogo shouted: i personally don't want to have to micro my OS, don't have enough apm Maybe Koreans don't have Windows and that's why they're so good at SC.[2018-3-02. : 5:30 pm] thekian -- Suicidal InsanitySuicidal Insanity shouted: thekian http://www.stormcoast-fortress.net/Irregularies/#downloads second newest or newest Was able to reproduce issue. SCMDraft crashes if you try to move a trigger down (with 'O') when it's already at the bottom.[2018-3-02. : 5:07 pm]  Vrael -- Mini Moose 2707Mini Moose 2707 shouted: Android doesn't really kinda count, it is running a modified Linux kernel ur face is running a modified linux kernel[2018-3-02. : 3:42 pm] Vrael -- and thats an assumption so I really shouldn't assume my conclusion to be true based on my assumption  [2018-3-02. : 3:42 pm] Vrael -- of course I think my other big assumption is that the consumer computing market will become relatively capped, while the generic device market (satellites, refridgerators, military applications, embedded devices, etc) will grow[2018-3-02. : 3:40 pm] Vrael -- I guess what I'm thinking of is running things like satellites, vehicles, internet of things, there are so many linux flavors involved but using windows for that kind of stuff would be such a hassle I don't even see it as a competitor[2018-3-02. : 3:40 pm] jjf28 -- https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/3/2/17050610/guns-shootings-studies-rand-charts-maps[2018-3-02. : 3:39 pm] Vrael -- Pr0nogoPr0nogo shouted: Vrael pretty sure linux usage stats compared to windows/mac/etc are out there and it's not in linux's favor NudeRaiderNudeRaider shouted: Vrael we used to have a couple of centos servers for stuff like dhcp, proxy, etc. Over the years we phased them in favor of windows servers, and we're definitely not worse off. Managing has become easier - everyone on the team can now safely add/change reservations whereas before editing the config via vim was tedious and dangerous. I once shut down all our phones and half our printers with a slight mishap. We don't need to hire a linux specialist when we want to do major changes. And I can't think of a single stability issue. That's what I meant with that Windows is good. yeah I could definitely be wrong, I'm going off of gut intuition not hard numbers[2018-3-02. : 12:53 pm] NudeRaider -- Mini Moose 2707Mini Moose 2707 shouted: NudeRaider You have people who aren't good with vim using vim to edit configuration on production servers? Can't say that's an OS problem. you can, because it's the default editor. Compare that to the default "editor" (gui really) of a windows dhcp. Also it's not so much lack of experience using vim - we knew what we needed to know - it's that inadvertently pressing a wrong button (combination) can mark and overwrite large sections without noticing.[2018-3-02. : 11:10 am] Chia-Tyrant -- I think there might be something wrong with the file database. It doesn't let me update using a file with a '.' in its name, like 'v1.0'. Is it because of the .scx extension restriction?[2018-3-02. : 10:56 am]  Moose -- NudeRaiderNudeRaider shouted: Vrael we used to have a couple of centos servers for stuff like dhcp, proxy, etc. Over the years we phased them in favor of windows servers, and we're definitely not worse off. Managing has become easier - everyone on the team can now safely add/change reservations whereas before editing the config via vim was tedious and dangerous. I once shut down all our phones and half our printers with a slight mishap. We don't need to hire a linux specialist when we want to do major changes. And I can't think of a single stability issue. That's what I meant with that Windows is good. You have people who aren't good with vim using vim to edit configuration on production servers? Can't say that's an OS problem.[2018-3-02. : 10:54 am] Moose -- Pr0nogoPr0nogo shouted: Vrael pretty sure linux usage stats compared to windows/mac/etc are out there and it's not in linux's favor It depends on among what kind of users you're talking about. There's more than desktop users and gamers.[2018-3-02. : 8:37 am] Suicidal Insanity -- thekianthekian shouted: Er, do you have a download link for that exact version? http://www.stormcoast-fortress.net/Irregularies/#downloads second newest or newest[2018-3-02. : 8:07 am]  Pr0nogo -- i personally don't want to have to micro my OS, don't have enough apm[2018-3-02. : 8:06 am] Pr0nogo -- VraelVrael shouted: lol, you mean how will windows overtake linux? pretty sure linux usage stats compared to windows/mac/etc are out there and it's not in linux's favor[2018-3-02. : 7:07 am] NudeRaider -- NudeRaiderNudeRaider shouted: I'll be the first to admit that the capabilities of the linux console is crazy good for scripting, but powershell is that much worse (mostly way less concise) but that doesn't outweigh all the other advantages imo. I don't know how scientific applications work, but I could see them running better on linux machines. For development? You mean the platform makes programming easier? (I honestly don't know since I never programmed a linux app.) as in that it's easier to program for linux kernel compared to for windows kernel?[2018-3-02. : 7:05 am] NudeRaider -- I'll be the first to admit that the capabilities of the linux console is crazy good for scripting, but powershell is that much worse (mostly way less concise) but that doesn't outweigh all the other advantages imo. I don't know how scientific applications work, but I could see them running better on linux machines. For development? You mean the platform makes programming easier? (I honestly don't know since I never programmed a linux app.)[2018-3-02. : 6:55 am] NudeRaider -- VraelVrael shouted: but I'd bet my bottom biscuit that business computing far exceeds consumer computing we used to have a couple of centos servers for stuff like dhcp, proxy, etc. Over the years we phased them in favor of windows servers, and we're definitely not worse off. Managing has become easier - everyone on the team can now safely add/change reservations whereas before editing the config via vim was tedious and dangerous. I once shut down all our phones and half our printers with a slight mishap. We don't need to hire a linux specialist when we want to do major changes. And I can't think of a single stability issue. That's what I meant with that Windows is good.[2018-3-02. : 6:45 am] NudeRaider -- Mini Moose 2707Mini Moose 2707 shouted: Android doesn't really kinda count, it is running a modified Linux kernel I dont see android as a threat to either desktop nor server applications. It's clearly mostly useful as a OS for mobile devices.[2018-3-02. : 3:57 am] O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- RoyRoy shouted: It's still possible, you never know! I could have known at some point [2018-3-02. : 2:44 am] Moose -- Android doesn't really kinda count, it is running a modified Linux kernel[2018-3-02. : 2:22 am] Vrael -- but I'd bet my bottom biscuit that business computing far exceeds consumer computing[2018-3-02. : 2:22 am] Vrael -- course I can't justify that claim with market segment $$ because thats paid content[2018-3-02. : 1:57 am] jjf28 -- so in the long run... how would linux overtake windows? presumably windows will stay popular because it's popular and people prefer to develop against the most popular platforms; are all the eggs in the WINE basket?[2018-3-02. : 1:46 am] Vrael -- but anyone doing any kind of software development or scientific applications I'd bet my hat that they'd take linux/*nix over windows[2018-3-02. : 1:45 am] Vrael -- not that linux is perfect but slow? excessive kernel wrappers? I will grant user-unfriendly when we're talking about the general population[2018-3-02. : 1:44 am] Vrael -- thekianthekian shouted: Vrael It's slow, user-unfriendly, updates way too often and generates an excessive number of marginally different kernel wrappers. you're talking about linux not windows right?[2018-3-02. : 1:09 am] thekian -- Suicidal InsanitySuicidal Insanity shouted: https://us.battle.net/forums/en/starcraft/topic/20758126392?page=14#post-271 <- Can anyone reproduce that? I'll try it.[2018-3-02. : 12:28 am] Suicidal Insanity -- https://us.battle.net/forums/en/starcraft/topic/20758126392?page=14#post-271 <- Can anyone reproduce that?[2018-3-01. : 5:23 pm] KrayZee -- thekianthekian shouted: KrayZee TBH, I stopped caring what Trump said a long time ago. I already know he spews random bs since before he ran for president. I'm glad democrats and children were able to convince him... it better not be one of his many lies.[2018-3-01. : 4:24 pm] thekian -- Also, FaRTy1billionFaRTy1billion shouted: What if in real life Roy is just like the most obnoxious, grating and juvenile person? -Farty, 2014[2018-3-01. : 4:21 pm] thekian -- As NudeRaider says, NudeRaiderNudeRaider shouted: ClansAreForGays Problem is: Windows is good. Really good actually. And easy to use, for a reasonable price. Most people are (understandably) sold at that point. Only few have other criteria that actually influence the decision what to use. Many have other criteria they like to complain about though. But since complaints without a change in buying decision don't shrink MS earnings, they only address them as much as is convenient for them. Solid business strategy imo. Poor charity though. [2018-3-01. : 4:20 pm] thekian -- VraelVrael shouted: thekian don't understand, what's wrong with linux? It's slow, user-unfriendly, updates way too often and generates an excessive number of marginally different kernel wrappers.[2018-3-01. : 4:08 pm] Vrael -- thekianthekian shouted: Vrael Just saying, the alternatives to Windows being Linux are why people use Windows. don't understand, what's wrong with linux?[2018-3-01. : 4:04 pm] thekian -- NudeRaiderNudeRaider shouted: anyways, sc code has been reverse engineered. What's the problem with hard coding? Just compile your own sc. Plugins are a tad bit more complex than just using iscripts and FireGraft. Also the problem that they may or may not be compatible with DatExtender.[2018-3-01. : 4:02 pm] thekian -- KrayZeeKrayZee shouted: President Demagogue promoting gun control? :0 TBH, I stopped caring what Trump said a long time ago.[2018-3-01. : 4:01 pm] thekian -- VraelVrael shouted: thekian NudeRaider wow I was way off, coulda sworn it was linux domain authentication protocol where I work but I guess that might be something I made up in my head Just saying, the alternatives to Windows being Linux are why people use Windows.[2018-3-01. : 2:21 pm] Vrael -- whoops meant to quote this nuderaider quote NudeRaiderNudeRaider shouted: Vrael at least you got the "Protocol" right  [2018-3-01. : 2:18 pm] Vrael -- thekianthekian shouted: It's "Lightweight Directory Access Protocol". NudeRaiderNudeRaider shouted: ClansAreForGays Problem is: Windows is good. Really good actually. And easy to use, for a reasonable price. Most people are (understandably) sold at that point. Only few have other criteria that actually influence the decision what to use. Many have other criteria they like to complain about though. But since complaints without a change in buying decision don't shrink MS earnings, they only address them as much as is convenient for them. Solid business strategy imo. Poor charity though. wow I was way off, coulda sworn it was linux domain authentication protocol where I work but I guess that might be something I made up in my head[2018-3-01. : 11:17 am] Moose -- NudeRaiderNudeRaider shouted: ClansAreForGays Problem is: Windows is good. Really good actually. And easy to use, for a reasonable price. Most people are (understandably) sold at that point. Only few have other criteria that actually influence the decision what to use. Many have other criteria they like to complain about though. But since complaints without a change in buying decision don't shrink MS earnings, they only address them as much as is convenient for them. Solid business strategy imo. Poor charity though. NudeRaiderNudeRaider shouted: gross! [2018-3-01. : 6:54 am] O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- NudeRaiderNudeRaider shouted: anyways, sc code has been reverse engineered. What's the problem with hard coding? Just compile your own sc. SC:R |
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