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[2018-4-25. : 6:39 pm]  NudeRaider -- lil-Infernolil-Inferno shouted: mildly family man hours, who up just woke up from my late afternoon nap  [2018-4-25. : 11:55 am]  TF- -- only chance is if they kept the original 3d assets, which they never do[2018-4-25. : 11:55 am] TF- -- even more complex/baroque pre-rendered sprite environments, for them to look at through a magnifying lens and use the photoshop smudge tool to "remaster"[2018-4-25. : 1:29 am] Lanthanide -- I mean it sucks for blends but D2 doesn't have that hassle to deal with[2018-4-25. : 1:13 am] jjf28 -- I think D2 is a high risk game to remaster, character/weapon/spell art they can easily improve but the terrain and the sounds and the general ambiance would be so easy to mess up[2018-4-25. : 1:10 am] jjf28 -- I wonder if it's possible to make the cow sounds more hilariously ridiculous[2018-4-25. : 1:00 am] Lanthanide -- there'd be lots of business support people as well I suppose, and battle.net engineers[2018-4-25. : 12:59 am] Dem0n -- the fact that practically all the friends related b.net commands stayed broken for at least four months after release leads me to believe that they literally had less than a handful of devs working on it[2018-4-25. : 12:59 am] Lanthanide -- I'd guess they had 2-4 programmers on it, and then there's artists they would've roped in to convert all the graphics over[2018-4-25. : 12:54 am] Dem0n -- probs -- pretty evident they had like a total of 4 people working on it ROFL[2018-4-25. : 12:53 am] lil-Inferno -- BroflamingoBroflamingo shouted: RexyRex RexyRex Rex, i was under the impression that BW:R came to be because SC2 esports seen was dying off frankly to Dota 2/LoL/Overwatch etc I get the impression Remastered is something a few Blizzard employees worked on for fun in their spare time, then they got the green light from upper management to work on it full time[2018-4-24. : 11:26 pm] Broflamingo -- RexyRexRexyRex shouted: twitch / reddit / twitter / teamliquid. esports is a big focus of scii and this is a site about the map editor.. Was going to add Heroes of the Storm, but that frankly fell flat due to it being to casual. Feels like a party game more than anything else.[2018-4-24. : 11:14 pm] Broflamingo -- RexyRexRexyRex shouted: twitch / reddit / twitter / teamliquid. esports is a big focus of scii and this is a site about the map editor.. RexyRexRexyRex shouted: lewl there's plenty community for sc2 just not on this site Rex, i was under the impression that BW:R came to be because SC2 esports seen was dying off frankly to Dota 2/LoL/Overwatch etc[2018-4-24. : 10:58 pm] Broflamingo -- Pr0nogoPr0nogo shouted: Lanthanide d3 is a phone game visually To be fair, were phone visuals up to standard when D3 was released? LanthanideLanthanide shouted: need to make that skinnerbox as compelling as possible, D3 obviously has the visuals down (I'd say they're over the top for the most part), but sucks on sound Agree 100%[2018-4-24. : 8:37 pm]  Moose -- Nah, shook because can't 1v1, can't 1v1 because shook, what a paradox O_O[2018-4-24. : 8:27 pm] Voyager7456 -- No, I don't think the definitions used by the SC community are different than that used by most other game communities[2018-4-24. : 8:25 pm] Voyager7456 -- Mini Moose 2707Mini Moose 2707 shouted: Dem0n Depends on the definition of "modding". Barring EUDs and whatever else there is to blur the lines, we have distinct definitions of what is mapping and what is modding ... but these are somewhat niche definitions for the SCBW content creation community. idk, the definitions used for SC are pretty standard in all the custom content communities I've been involved in[2018-4-24. : 8:23 pm] Pr0nogo -- LanthanideLanthanide shouted: need to make that skinnerbox as compelling as possible, D3 obviously has the visuals down (I'd say they're over the top for the most part), but sucks on sound d3 is a phone game visually[2018-4-24. : 8:06 pm] lil-Inferno -- remember when people would be like "Can someone teach me how to MOD? (sic)" when they really meant "map"[2018-4-24. : 8:00 pm] Moose -- Dem0nDem0n shouted: how's it "modding" if it's fully supported? :thinking: Depends on the definition of "modding". Barring EUDs and whatever else there is to blur the lines, we have distinct definitions of what is mapping and what is modding ... but these are somewhat niche definitions for the SCBW content creation community.[2018-4-24. : 7:57 pm] Moose -- NudeRaiderNudeRaider shouted: Pr0nogo unless they are using the money for improving assets and thus are able to produce something much more polished. everyone wins.  [2018-4-24. : 7:26 pm] Lanthanide -- need to make that skinnerbox as compelling as possible, D3 obviously has the visuals down (I'd say they're over the top for the most part), but sucks on sound[2018-4-24. : 7:25 pm] Lanthanide -- BroflamingoBroflamingo shouted: Pr0nogo Pr0nogo Lanthanide True, and to Lathanides point D3 was only saved by the revamp + gameplay. Very muted sound which is odd because if you are going to have grinding/leveling gameplay sound feedback, I'd argue, is even more critical to game feel and enjoyment. I hadn't considered sound specifically in the context of a grinding / levelling game but I think you're right[2018-4-24. : 6:38 pm] RexyRex -- twitch / reddit / twitter / teamliquid. esports is a big focus of scii and this is a site about the map editor..[2018-4-24. : 6:01 pm] Broflamingo -- Pr0nogoPr0nogo shouted: there is no community for sc2 How is it surviving then, not disagreeing, just curious.[2018-4-24. : 5:10 pm] Voyager7456 -- BroflamingoBroflamingo shouted: Voyager7456 Is there a SC2 map making Renaissance taking place? if there is, it's happening somewhere else  [2018-4-24. : 4:59 pm] Broflamingo -- Voyager7456Voyager7456 shouted: There was a brief discussion on Discord but yeah there's not a lot of people here interested in SC2 Is there a SC2 map making Renaissance taking place?[2018-4-24. : 4:52 pm] Broflamingo -- Pr0nogoPr0nogo shouted: so when a bunch of explosions are the same (sc2) you're not going to be able to read things as easily Pr0nogoPr0nogo shouted: sound is a big part of readability too, especially in 3d games where readability tanks due to incompetent graphics artists (and all blizz games have pretty ass particles, see war3 etc) LanthanideLanthanide shouted: Broflamingo yeah, this happened in Diablo 3 as well. All the general sound effects, especially for spells and the like, are muted and barely stand out from the background noise and battle sounds. I really don't know why blizzards sound engineers take this route True, and to Lathanides point D3 was only saved by the revamp + gameplay. Very muted sound which is odd because if you are going to have grinding/leveling gameplay sound feedback, I'd argue, is even more critical to game feel and enjoyment.[2018-4-24. : 4:49 pm] Broflamingo -- lil-Infernolil-Inferno shouted: Broflamingo Tank sieging sound in BW is good AF Facts lil-Infernolil-Inferno shouted: right up there with the SSBM bat sound Big facts, note that they kept that same exact sound from SSB64 through all iterations. That sound is that satisfying.[2018-4-24. : 4:45 pm] Voyager7456 -- [s Dem0nDem0n shouted: how's it "modding" if it's fully supported? :thinking: More mad about this than paid content tbh[2018-4-24. : 4:44 pm] Voyager7456 -- Pr0nogoPr0nogo shouted: donations via paypal have to be given to a registered nonprofit as far as i klnow So you link to Patreon I guess, same idea[2018-4-24. : 4:32 pm] NudeRaider -- NudeRaiderNudeRaider shouted: lil-Inferno that must be the first time in capitalist America that someone not just expects money for work done, but even thinks the concept is dumb. Dude, it's even in your DNA that you have to like to get money when someone uses stuff you made. * not just expects no money[2018-4-24. : 4:31 pm] NudeRaider -- lil-Infernolil-Inferno shouted: tbh fam, paid mods dumb and if you want $tacc$ for your work the best solution is probs to include a donation link that must be the first time in capitalist America that someone not just expects money for work done, but even thinks the concept is dumb. Dude, it's even in your DNA that you have to like to get money when someone uses stuff you made. |
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