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[2018-6-04. : 8:16 pm]  Moose -- I knew I made the SD rules well when I no longer wanted to post in SD.[2018-6-04. : 8:15 pm]  Vrael -- We were so young, starry-eyed, filled with the naivety that we could make a real discussion. That's when things got.... Serious.[2018-6-04. : 8:15 pm] Vrael -- You were there Moose. It was your fault, really. But I don't blame you. You couldn't have known what it would do to us[2018-6-04. : 8:14 pm] Vrael -- Mini Moose 2707Mini Moose 2707 shouted: Remember that time we got trolled into thinking there was a discussion? there is no discussion, only ...[2018-6-04. : 8:14 pm] Vrael -- how will the stupid people ever become less stupid with no one to teach them how not to be stupid though?[2018-6-04. : 8:13 pm] KrayZee -- I'm better off not explaining simple things to people who are filled with stupidity.[2018-6-04. : 8:13 pm] T-warp -- I released the sources for my editor. Check it out here (if you want) https://github.com/Tarferi/EPD[2018-6-04. : 8:13 pm] Moose -- Remember that time we got trolled into thinking there was a discussion?[2018-6-04. : 8:12 pm] KrayZee -- I'm going to be off topic here, but it will be relevant when it comes to definition. Gaming disorder is a thing and by definition it's explaining a behavior that involved a person who invests their time with gaming that's dominant in their lifestyle. You might take the words "gaming disorder" the wrong way, and think it's the notion suggesting all gamers have a gaming disorder. In that case, your argument shouldn't be valid since it doesn't match to what it's suppose to mean.[2018-6-04. : 8:11 pm] Vrael -- I BEAR MY SOUL AND I'M NOT AFRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIDDDDD NOT AFRAAAAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIDDD[2018-6-04. : 8:09 pm]  Pr0nogo -- KrayZeeKrayZee shouted: Pr0nogo Then you're cherry picking. is what i meant to quote here Pr0nogoPr0nogo shouted: Vrael i did articulate my views and kz replied with Vrael before proceeding to selectively use definitions that do not apply to everyone involved to describe everyone involved [2018-6-04. : 8:09 pm] Vrael -- Mini Moose 2707Mini Moose 2707 shouted: Vrael Conversation? More of a lecture TBH PROFESSOR VRAEL IN DA HOUSSSEEEEE DAWWGGGG[2018-6-04. : 8:08 pm] Moose -- VraelVrael shouted: Pr0nogo not sure I can respond productively to this conversation anymore right now after having gone full 13 year old girl on it Conversation? More of a lecture TBH[2018-6-04. : 8:08 pm] Moose -- KrayZeeKrayZee shouted: People who are feminists would condemn women who are sexist towards men. People who are antifa may condemn those who are violent against the people they oppose. People who support BLM would condemn a person of color being racist towards a caucasian person. for an ideal follower of these movements (which have no membership requirements other than association and self-identification because they're not organizations)[2018-6-04. : 8:07 pm] Vrael -- Pr0nogoPr0nogo shouted: Vrael i did articulate my views and kz replied with Vrael before proceeding to selectively use definitions that do not apply to everyone involved to describe everyone involved not sure I can respond productively to this conversation anymore right now after having gone full 13 year old girl on it[2018-6-04. : 8:07 pm] Pr0nogo -- when i get home i will say my piece to explain my views for those that care (and for the practice) but kz seems rather disinterested[2018-6-04. : 8:06 pm] Pr0nogo -- VraelVrael shouted: but really pr0nogo I know KrayZ is meandering in his thought process but if you want to help the conversation you can stop avoiding the intellectual burden of articulating your viewpoints by shifting it to kz with statements like 'how so' i did articulate my views and kz replied with VraelVrael shouted: Mini Moose 2707 no before proceeding to selectively use definitions that do not apply to everyone involved to describe everyone involved[2018-6-04. : 8:06 pm] Vrael -- jjf28jjf28 shouted: Vrael become? yeah there was a time when I was a pretty level headed person[2018-6-04. : 8:06 pm] jjf28 -- VraelVrael shouted: god when did I become such a belligerent asshole become?[2018-6-04. : 8:06 pm] Vrael -- KrayZeeKrayZee shouted: My goal isn't to convince anyone. what is your goal then?[2018-6-04. : 8:05 pm] Vrael -- KrayZeeKrayZee shouted: I don't need to explain if you yourself become the very example of portraying things the wrong way. You're just proving my point. omg condescending much? good luck convincing anyone of anything with that kind of argument[2018-6-04. : 8:04 pm] KrayZee -- I don't need to explain if you yourself become the very example of portraying things the wrong way. You're just proving my point.[2018-6-04. : 8:04 pm] Vrael -- VraelVrael shouted: Mini Moose 2707 no the philosophy can be good but the implementation of it can go horribly wrong[2018-6-04. : 8:02 pm] Vrael -- KrayZeeKrayZee shouted: People who are feminists would condemn women who are sexist towards men. People who are antifa may condemn those who are violent against the people they oppose. People who support BLM would condemn a person of color being racist towards a caucasian person. now who's painting with a wide brush[2018-6-04. : 8:01 pm] Vrael -- but really pr0nogo I know KrayZ is meandering in his thought process but if you want to help the conversation you can stop avoiding the intellectual burden of articulating your viewpoints by shifting it to kz with statements like 'how so'[2018-6-04. : 7:58 pm] KrayZee -- People who are feminists would condemn women who are sexist towards men. People who are antifa may condemn those who are violent against the people they oppose. People who support BLM would condemn a person of color being racist towards a caucasian person.[2018-6-04. : 7:58 pm] Moose -- VraelVrael shouted: omg just articulate your view on how the movement as a whole influenced those 'cherry picked' cases already No, we have to discuss distractions on whether or not BLM can be a grilled cheese sandwich because it's just a movement or not![2018-6-04. : 7:58 pm] Vrael -- I'm arguing with the audacity of a 13 year old girl, aka speaking to everyone and being generally disruptive right now[2018-6-04. : 7:57 pm] Vrael -- Mini Moose 2707Mini Moose 2707 shouted: Did I miss the part where anyone actually asked Pr0nogo how he came to form his viewpoints before he got accused of cherry picking nah never happened[2018-6-04. : 7:57 pm] Moose -- Did I miss the part where anyone actually asked Pr0nogo how he came to form his viewpoints before he got accused of cherry picking[2018-6-04. : 7:56 pm] Pr0nogo -- imo if enough controversy is generated by active members of an organization, that org should clarify its position publicly and then be held accountable to their clarifications[2018-6-04. : 7:56 pm] KrayZee -- And people who do represent feminism, antifa and BLM wouldn't even support specific people who are deliberate at attacking people.[2018-6-04. : 7:55 pm] Vrael -- omg just articulate your view on how the movement as a whole influenced those 'cherry picked' cases already[2018-6-04. : 7:54 pm] KrayZee -- Pr0nogoPr0nogo shouted: KrayZee i can assert that enough individuals aspiring to those groups have conducted actions that convince me as such to the point that the organization they belong to at least accepts such outspoken views among its members Then you're cherry picking.[2018-6-04. : 7:54 pm] Vrael -- Mini Moose 2707Mini Moose 2707 shouted: But can you judge the philosophies of a movement based on the actions of people who identify as part of the movement? no[2018-6-04. : 7:54 pm] Pr0nogo -- KrayZeeKrayZee shouted: You can't label feminists sexist towards men. You can't label antifa lawless insane people. You also can't label BLM as terrorists. i can assert that enough individuals aspiring to those groups have conducted actions that convince me as such to the point that the organization they belong to at least accepts such outspoken views among its members |
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