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[2014-8-09. : 3:35 pm]
BloodyZombie117 -- I've tried Windows 8 for over a year. (My friend has it on his laptop) It just doesn't have the same feel I come to expect from Windows... XP and 7 are the ones I love.
[2014-8-09. : 3:35 pm]
Moose -- Yeah, I just mentioned Lubuntu because it's super lightweight and aimed at older hardware and laptops
[2014-8-09. : 3:34 pm]
Roy -- Or put Mint with the 7 skin on there.
[2014-8-09. : 3:34 pm]
Dem0n -- I once tried installing Linux onto a computer. I had no clue what I was doing.
[2014-8-09. : 3:34 pm]
Dem0n -- Never have to buy an OS again :awesome:
[2014-8-09. : 3:34 pm]
Moose -- Dem0n, if you get an el cheapo craptop and you don't need microsoft programs specifically (ones you can't run under WINE), throw Lubuntu on there.
[2014-8-09. : 3:33 pm]
Dem0n -- My school offers all version of Windows 7 and Windows 8.1 for free lel.
[2014-8-09. : 3:33 pm]
Roy -- Most of the hate for 8/8.1 is from people that have either not used it or used it for less than, say, a week.
[2014-8-09. : 3:32 pm]
Roy -- Classic Shell is basically all you need to turn it into 7. Although you sometimes run into metro apps, which is annoying when you have a dual-monitor setup.
[2014-8-09. : 3:32 pm]
Dem0n -- If I get an el cheapo craptop, I am throwing W7 on there immediately. Fuck W8.
[2014-8-09. : 3:31 pm]
Moose -- Honestly, I hear Win 8.1 isn't that bad and that there's themes you can install to just make it very 7-ish anyway. So it looks mostly like 7, with all the benefits of 8, it's pretty good
[2014-8-09. : 3:31 pm]
BloodyZombie117 -- Oh well... At least my SSD boots up in 5 seconds anyways.
[2014-8-09. : 3:30 pm]
Roy -- I have 8.1 on my desktop. It's pretty cool.
[2014-8-09. : 3:30 pm]
Moose -- http://www.tomsguide.com/us/win8-speed-performance,review-1760.html It's from 2012, but it has a lot of Win7 comparisons
[2014-8-09. : 3:30 pm]
BloodyZombie117 -- Also... Damn. I wonder who still has/uses a '95 or older computer. xD
[2014-8-09. : 3:30 pm]
Roy -- Windows 7 doesn't do any of that.
[2014-8-09. : 3:29 pm]
BloodyZombie117 -- How about Windows 7? I don't want to ever use 8. I'll just wait for 9 to come out.
[2014-8-09. : 3:28 pm]
Moose -- "Partly that’s because instead of shutting down services and drivers when you turn off your PC, Windows 8 saves a copy of the current state of services and devices to disk; like hibernating your PC but without saving the details of applications and open files. Reading that copy and reinitializing the drivers is faster than loading it all from scratch, and if you have a processor with more than one core Windows uses all of them to boot with, not just one."
[2014-8-09. : 3:28 pm]
Roy -- The oldest I could probably find would be from the early 2000's.
[2014-8-09. : 3:25 pm]
BloodyZombie117 -- What about the '95 computer... Where would I get one of them? Because I don't know anyone who has a computer of that age.
[2014-8-09. : 3:25 pm]
Moose -- I have to admit I've wondered what would happen if I were able to put Windows 95 on here and have the hardware be compatible.
[2014-8-09. : 3:24 pm]
Roy -- And hope the firmware on the SSD doesn't mind.
[2014-8-09. : 3:23 pm]
Roy -- Just get a SATA to IDE adapter.
[2014-8-09. : 3:23 pm]
BloodyZombie117 -- I now want to get one of them and find a way to get an SSD to connect to IDE ports. See how fast a '95 computer can run with that thing.
[2014-8-09. : 3:22 pm]
Roy -- Were benchmarks a big thing back then?
[2014-8-09. : 3:22 pm]
Roy -- I wonder if they offloaded a lot of the work for the OS to improve "boot-to-desktop" benchmarks.
[2014-8-09. : 3:20 pm]
Moose -- Haha, yes. And it might give you the half hourglass half pointer cursor but you knew it was only pretending you would be able to do something.
[2014-8-09. : 3:19 pm]
Roy -- The worst part was when you'd hit the desktop, but you'd know you couldn't do anything for another 2 minutes or so because the computer was cranking on something in the background.
[2014-8-09. : 3:19 pm]
BloodyZombie117 -- But I do know for a fact the computer was slow. Lagged a lot.
[2014-8-09. : 3:18 pm]
BloodyZombie117 -- I might be exaggerating... I don't remember a whole lot of things 10+ years ago. It could've been the real thing, or it could've been exaggerated... Truth is, I don't really know for sure.
[2014-8-09. : 3:18 pm]
Roy -- If it were bad hardware, the machine wouldn't boot at all.
[2014-8-09. : 3:18 pm]
Roy -- Mine probably took a solid four minutes to boot, which was just terrible.
[2014-8-09. : 3:18 pm]
Moose -- Exactly, Roy. Sounds like bad hardware or user error.
[2014-8-09. : 3:17 pm]
Roy -- I don't believe there was hardware in existence that couldn't boot Windows 95 or earlier in less than fifteen minutes, excluding hardware that wasn't compatible with the OS. You seem to be exaggerating. Unless your computer was heavily infected with malware and the startup folder was filled with virus programs initializing in the background, it probably only took like 5-8 minutes and it just seemed like forever because computers nowadays boot up in under a minute.
[2014-8-09. : 3:16 pm]
BloodyZombie117 -- Plus, my sister and brother could've downloaded things onto it too... That usually slows everything down.
[2014-8-09. : 3:16 pm]
BloodyZombie117 -- What year did you play that in though? Parts wear out over time. The computer was 6 years old when I got on it.
[2014-8-09. : 3:14 pm]
Moose -- Even when I had Windows 95 on a 133mhz processor and 16MB of RAM, it didn't take an hour, lol.
[2014-8-09. : 3:13 pm]
BloodyZombie117 -- I meant the OS took an hour to boot up, but games lagged horribly on it... The hardware was total shit. I don't remember the specs though.
[2014-8-09. : 3:11 pm]
Moose -- The hardware in that must have been garbage.
[2014-8-09. : 3:11 pm]
Moose -- I remember playing and mapping SC on Windows 98. It wasn't fast, but it never took an hour to boot up.
[2014-8-09. : 3:06 pm]
BloodyZombie117 -- This wasn't one of those... It was uber slow, took an hour for the thing to actually boot up and be at a point where you could actually start a program.
[2014-8-09. : 2:55 pm]
Roy -- StarCraft was made for playing on '95 computers, though. That's the computer I used to play it.
[2014-8-09. : 2:44 pm]
BloodyZombie117 -- Hey Dem0n. If you think an '05 shitbox of a computer is bad... Imagine playing Starcraft on a '95 computer... I had to use that whenever my dad was on the good one.
[2014-8-09. : 12:06 pm]
lil-Inferno -- Use Genymotion.
[2014-8-09. : 10:59 am]
Generalpie -- The VM is just as slow as before, so I avoid that thing like the plague
[2014-8-09. : 10:59 am]
Generalpie -- I dunno, it could have been my setup
[2014-8-09. : 10:59 am]
Generalpie -- And adb shell wouldn't work because it would always say a shell was being run already, despite that being the very first command after the adb server was run (I adb over wifi instead of usb)
[2014-8-09. : 10:57 am]
Generalpie -- Maybe it's related to the first issue, but I could only run like 4 commands before
[2014-8-09. : 10:57 am]
Generalpie -- And even more odd, the adb commands when set as an environment variable can run commands properly
[2014-8-09. : 10:56 am]
Generalpie -- Maybe it's just my setup
[2014-8-09. : 10:55 am]
Generalpie -- And for some reason, the resource manager doesn't lose packages like ADT used to
[2014-8-09. : 10:54 am]
Generalpie -- I dunno, it seems easier for me
[2014-8-09. : 10:41 am]
Zhuinden -- I'm personally still using the ADT, is the Android Studio really that much better even it being beta? I never really bothered to learn Gradle yet.
[2014-8-09. : 9:52 am]
Generalpie -- And I don't use the ADT Bundle anymore, I use the new Android Studio Beta
[2014-8-09. : 9:51 am]
Generalpie -- Processor*
[2014-8-09. : 9:51 am]
Generalpie -- And the VM is awful unless you use an intel computer, then there should be a booster package
[2014-8-09. : 9:51 am]
Generalpie -- "Dem0n -- I'm on 4.4. Nexus master race." I'm on L. Experimental master race
[2014-8-09. : 7:09 am]
O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- the android VM never loads ;o
[2014-8-09. : 6:14 am]
Engineer -- It works pretty well, I think..
[2014-8-09. : 6:12 am]
Engineer -- Has anybody used MapCheck program made by yoonkwun?
[2014-8-09. : 6:12 am]
Lanthanide -- this is more like it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MV1Gl_kPk-k
[2014-8-09. : 6:11 am]
Lanthanide -- that one sort of sounds 'burbly' by comparison
[2014-8-09. : 6:11 am]
Lanthanide -- or at least sometimes, you get some very long sustained warbles that are really loud
[2014-8-09. : 6:11 am]
Lanthanide -- none of the ones I've found on youtube sound like the ones we have here, though
[2014-8-09. : 6:10 am]
O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- That video exactly even.
[2014-8-09. : 6:09 am]
Lanthanide -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYEYc8Ge3nw which you've probably already found
[2014-8-09. : 6:07 am]
Lanthanide -- yeah, ours don't do that
[2014-8-09. : 5:56 am]
O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- Ours do this, except it is really really loud. Especially when it's right outside your window.
[2014-8-09. : 5:54 am]
O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- I'm going to assume you have Australian magpie. That's the only ones I am finding on youtube ..
[2014-8-09. : 5:53 am]
O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- Maybe yours actually make a good sound instead of just screeching

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