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[2019-2-02. : 5:28 pm]  NudeRaider -- NekronNekron shouted: tbh your constant insinuation that RTS gameplay is not gameplay is a pretty good reason already please quote where you think I implied that. I meant nothing even close to that.[2019-2-02. : 5:28 pm]  Moose -- Oh_ManOh_Man shouted: How they can operate computers with their heads so far up their asses mad Dem0nDem0n shouted: Oh_Man Funny coming from you LMAO madder Dem0nDem0n shouted: NudeRaider That is the biggest generalization I've ever heard. There are plenty of mods that go beyond the scope of just RTS. You and Oh_Man are like ignorant beyond belief. even madder Dem0nDem0n shouted: but you're actually retarded still madder NekronNekron shouted: LMAO Dem0n talking shit about UEDCommander meanwhile he has like 1/5th the content made under his belt mad but not wrong Dem0nDem0n shouted: bunch of modders here thinking they're hot shit for replacing a .grp file when they can't even use simple triggers LMAO madden 2019 Dem0nDem0n shouted: UEDCommander You're incredibly retarded too maddest[2019-2-02. : 5:28 pm] Nekron -- UEDCommander single handely destroyed the entire russian modding community[2019-2-02. : 5:28 pm] Nekron -- LMAO Dem0n talking shit about UEDCommander meanwhile he has like 1/5th the content made under his belt[2019-2-02. : 5:20 pm]  Dem0n -- bunch of modders here thinking they're hot shit for replacing a .grp file when they can't even use simple triggers LMAO[2019-2-02. : 5:20 pm] Dem0n -- UEDCommanderUEDCommander shouted: If under "i play a lot of RPGs" you imply "i play a lot of RPG maps on bnet", then you are actually playing rape preformed over RTS engine to make it RPG for no apparent reason You're incredibly retarded too[2019-2-02. : 5:19 pm] Voyager7456 -- Oh_ManOh_Man shouted: What impresses me most about the modding community is... Oh_ManOh_Man shouted: How they can operate computers with their heads so far up their asses u[2019-2-02. : 5:19 pm] Nekron -- tbh your constant insinuation that RTS gameplay is not gameplay is a pretty good reason already[2019-2-02. : 5:16 pm] NudeRaider -- Dem0nDem0n shouted: NudeRaider That is the biggest generalization I've ever heard. There are plenty of mods that go beyond the scope of just RTS. You and Oh_Man are like ignorant beyond belief. not gonna fall for that again  [2019-2-02. : 5:15 pm] Dem0n -- NudeRaiderNudeRaider shouted: This makes me wonder: Why do all the other modders stick to graphics, tech and ability changes? Why does nobody go beyond? And don't tell me because mapping is much easier and capable in that regard, because that would obviously be blasphemy That is the biggest generalization I've ever heard. There are plenty of mods that go beyond the scope of just RTS. You and Oh_Man are like ignorant beyond belief.[2019-2-02. : 5:15 pm] Nekron -- NudeRaiderNudeRaider shouted: tbh it wasn't the melee that kept me on bnet for years. It was the endless possibilites of UMS. I'm sure it's like that for many people. Especially here on SEN. yeah UMS cat and mouse kept me on BNet for years too, specifically the years between 7 and 10[2019-2-02. : 5:14 pm] Dem0n -- Oh_ManOh_Man shouted: How they can operate computers with their heads so far up their asses Funny coming from you LMAO[2019-2-02. : 3:49 pm] Oh_Man -- Maybe 1 day but I'd still run into nooks and crannies error and locations[2019-2-02. : 2:53 pm] NudeRaider -- I also think it being a tad short or unfinished story? With the promise of a 2nd map someday. Or am I confusing it with something else?[2019-2-02. : 2:52 pm] Oh_Man -- Well as you level up even stronger enemies start spawning. You get some god tier spells too and if you're good you can really do a lot of carnage[2019-2-02. : 2:44 pm] NudeRaider -- Oh_ManOh_Man shouted: Yeah any gamer who likes "fully clearing any area" will feel bad coz u can never clear the wilderness they will always spawn back to the population cap Not sure if you will get to that point after grinding even more, but I would have been content with being able to clear a path, moving forward. But if I wasn't actively moving there was always an enemy in sight to kill[2019-2-02. : 2:42 pm] NudeRaider -- I loved the detailed map btw. and all the nooks and crannies you could find stuff in[2019-2-02. : 2:42 pm] Oh_Man -- Yeah any gamer who likes "fully clearing any area" will feel bad coz u can never clear the wilderness they will always spawn back to the population cap[2019-2-02. : 2:40 pm] NudeRaider -- Oh_ManOh_Man shouted: Yeah wat are ur thoughts? pretty good presentation (within the confines of sc) and the mechanics work well, but it was too grindy for my tastes. And after grinding a while it turned into "I just walk past the enemies to my objectives", because there simply spawning too many to kill"[2019-2-02. : 2:38 pm] Oh_Man -- I wish more ppl wuld leave reviews on the forums like the good ol days[2019-2-02. : 2:37 pm] Moose -- Or you could just use EUDs to make things build the things so you don't have to replace anymore either xd[2019-2-02. : 2:35 pm] NudeRaider -- Oh_ManOh_Man shouted: Nuderaider u play my rpg? ive played the architect[2019-2-02. : 2:35 pm] UEDCommander -- With EUDs they also can't save, replace graphic assets, sounds[2019-2-02. : 2:35 pm] NudeRaider -- um I don't think I'll convince you that I was happy with what I did, so I'll just stop trying.[2019-2-02. : 2:34 pm] UEDCommander -- Accessibility as in making a map for 20 years old game as opposed to releasing actual game in Steam or sth like it?[2019-2-02. : 2:34 pm] NudeRaider -- also tickels my 'neat' detectors when someone manages to squeeze out a decent RPG in an RTS engine.[2019-2-02. : 2:33 pm] NudeRaider -- UEDCommanderUEDCommander shouted: If under "i play a lot of RPGs" you imply "i play a lot of RPG maps on bnet", then you are actually playing rape preformed over RTS engine to make it RPG for no apparent reason one super easy reason is fun. Another is accessibility. Another curiosity.[2019-2-02. : 2:32 pm] NudeRaider -- UEDCommanderUEDCommander shouted: If under "i play a lot of RPGs" you imply "i play a lot of RPG maps on bnet", then you are actually playing rape preformed over RTS engine to make it RPG for no apparent reason I didn't imply the former. But I also played RPGs in UMS mode. Why do you take offense with that?[2019-2-02. : 2:32 pm] UEDCommander -- With stuff like not being able to save/load and "please select a dropship and unload an SCV to pick up item"[2019-2-02. : 2:31 pm] Oh_Man -- How they can operate computers with their heads so far up their asses[2019-2-02. : 2:31 pm] UEDCommander -- If under "i play a lot of RPGs" you imply "i play a lot of RPG maps on bnet", then you are actually playing rape preformed over RTS engine to make it RPG for no apparent reason[2019-2-02. : 2:30 pm] NudeRaider -- UEDCommanderUEDCommander shouted: If you want to play an RPG, go play an RPG, not some kind of rape prefermed over RTS engine to make it RPG I play a lot of RPGs, but I also play RTS. And I play UMS. What's wrong with any of that?[2019-2-02. : 2:28 pm] UEDCommander -- If you want to play an RPG, go play an RPG, not some kind of rape prefermed over RTS engine to make it RPG[2019-2-02. : 2:28 pm] NudeRaider -- UEDCommanderUEDCommander shouted: There are also people who consider SC2 story to be pinnacle of storytelling That's not a good comparison. "good storytelling" can be measured fairly objectively, but the reason why you play a game? Not so much.[2019-2-02. : 2:27 pm] Moose -- UEDCommanderUEDCommander shouted: There are also people who consider SC2 story to be pinnacle of storytelling To be fair, those people are generally not here LMAO[2019-2-02. : 2:26 pm] UEDCommander -- There are also people who consider SC2 story to be pinnacle of storytelling[2019-2-02. : 2:25 pm] NudeRaider -- tbh it wasn't the melee that kept me on bnet for years. It was the endless possibilites of UMS. I'm sure it's like that for many people. Especially here on SEN.[2019-2-02. : 2:24 pm] UEDCommander -- Probably because most of people are sane enough to not diviate from RTS gameplay in RTS game[2019-2-02. : 2:23 pm] NudeRaider -- Not sure if we have to judge it by that, but I postulated that mods cannot offer much in the game play department. That mapping is the way to go if you want different game play. Modders didn't agree, arguing ensued.[2019-2-02. : 2:13 pm] Moose -- IDK, it seems like some people are using "but does it offer non-RTS gameplay o_________o" as a criteria for judging maps and/or mods[2019-2-02. : 2:12 pm] Moose -- So I'll go ahead and ask: What's wrong with using modding to make a better RTS anyway?[2019-2-02. : 2:06 pm] NudeRaider -- This makes me wonder: Why do all the other modders stick to graphics, tech and ability changes? Why does nobody go beyond? And don't tell me because mapping is much easier and capable in that regard, because that would obviously be blasphemy [2019-2-02. : 2:04 pm] NudeRaider -- As far as I can tell Lunacy Unbound doesn't use trigger at all, while offering a truly non-RTS experience. In this regard it truly stands out. The only other mod that kind of achieves that is Ad Astras. But only kind of, because it just shifts it into the 4X genre. Honorable mention for ERIS, but it's just as clunky as if it was done through triggers. |
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