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[2016-1-13. : 5:32 pm] Azrael -- As long as they don't do something stupid to try to kill Win7, I don't care what they do.[2016-1-13. : 5:32 pm] Dem0n -- I think the most annoying thing I've encountered on W10 is not being able to save directly to Program Files, but that's not even a big deal, and I understand the reasoning behind it.[2016-1-13. : 5:32 pm] Dem0n -- I'm not saying every decision is great; I'm just saying that I haven't encountered anything that has greatly frustrated me to the point of wanting to use another OS.[2016-1-13. : 5:31 pm] Azrael -- If you assume that the random (and constantly changing) people developing Windows will always make great decisions that improve the user experience, then you haven't used many versions of Windows.[2016-1-13. : 5:29 pm] Azrael -- I'm on Win7 because I don't like the changes they've made to Windows after that.[2016-1-13. : 5:28 pm] Azrael -- Because in XP and Win7, you could avoid future operating system updates??[2016-1-13. : 5:26 pm] Dem0n -- I don't know, man; I've been using W10 for a year now and I haven't noticed any of these frustrating things that people keep talking about. I'm 99% certain that all the W10 complaints are just from completely technologically illiterate people.[2016-1-13. : 5:23 pm] Azrael -- If the computer is annoying the shit out of you, there's something wrong.[2016-1-13. : 5:23 pm] Azrael -- Most people use a computer to enjoy themselves or to accomplish something -- not to feel needlessly frustrated.[2016-1-13. : 5:19 pm] Azrael -- ............................................................................................................[2016-1-13. : 5:19 pm] Dem0n -- They probably would've given you an option to turn it off, like they did in W7.[2016-1-13. : 5:19 pm] Dem0n -- Well in that case, I wouldn't have cared too much if UAC was added, honestly.[2016-1-13. : 5:19 pm] Azrael -- He said "What would you have said [if this happened]" several times.[2016-1-13. : 5:17 pm] Azrael -- Dem0nDem0n shouted: NudeRaider When was UAC forced onto XP? I used XP until 2011 and I don't remember seeing any UAC stuff on it. If it was forced on after 2011, that's entirely acceptable, because the OS had been out for, what, like 8 years at that point? Windows isn't just going to keep one of their biggest OSes ever as a giant spyware gateway, so it makes sense that they added additional security measures to it. UAC wasn't forced onto XP, which was the point.[2016-1-13. : 5:17 pm] Azrael -- RoyRoy shouted: Azrael Windows is built for the non-tech savvy. XP was great for me and you, but terrible for Aunt Marge. Microsoft needed to protect Aunt Marge from herself, and minus toolbars, they did a decent job for Vista. Vista had a host of other problems ubiquitous for all users, though that doesn't make XP automatically acceptable, just comparatively better. Just allow an opt-out for upgrading -- and make the process require you to be tech-savvy enough to accomplish it.[2016-1-13. : 5:11 pm] Dem0n -- And as Roy said, dumbasses who like Aunt Marge destroy their computers when given all the freedom in the world, so Windows needed something to protect them from themselves.[2016-1-13. : 5:10 pm] Dem0n -- NudeRaiderNudeRaider shouted: NudeRaider not much, apparently. So let me try and reply without knowing what you meant. Do you think Microsoft has never made a bad decision regarding OS development? What would you have said, sitting on a perfectly fine Windows 98 SE, being forced to switch to Windows ME? What would you have said, sitting on a perfectly fine Windows XP when MS forcibly tried to shove UAC down your throat. What about Metro? I believe in freedom to choice. That's not paranoia, that's what history taught us. It will also be harder for companies catering to OS extensions. They will need to be on the lookout for code changes that affect their software. And you can't tell your customers to simply avoid patch xy. When was UAC forced onto XP? I used XP until 2011 and I don't remember seeing any UAC stuff on it. If it was forced on after 2011, that's entirely acceptable, because the OS had been out for, what, like 8 years at that point? Windows isn't just going to keep one of their biggest OSes ever as a giant spyware gateway, so it makes sense that they added additional security measures to it.[2016-1-13. : 5:08 pm] Dem0n -- NudeRaiderNudeRaider shouted: Dem0n What do you mean? I figured you were part of the "omg windows is taking away all our freedom and slowly installing spyware onto our computers so they can track what we're doing and report back to the nsa!!!!" crowd.[2016-1-13. : 5:04 pm] Roy -- AzraelAzrael shouted: Roy But people who weren't dumb didn't need to worry about getting infected with stuff, between browsing responsibly and using software to protect themselves further. Windows is built for the non-tech savvy. XP was great for me and you, but terrible for Aunt Marge. Microsoft needed to protect Aunt Marge from herself, and minus toolbars, they did a decent job for Vista. Vista had a host of other problems ubiquitous for all users, though that doesn't make XP automatically acceptable, just comparatively better.[2016-1-13. : 4:57 pm] Azrael -- For someone who knows what they're doing, forcing them to upgrade is a potentially painful and unnecessary experience.[2016-1-13. : 4:56 pm] Azrael -- RoyRoy shouted: NudeRaider XP, perfectly fine? It was a security nightmare that Vista had the misfortune of attempting to fix. Remember when viruses and antivirus software were huge? Yeah, that was XP's legacy. Now you get made fun of if you have Norton installed. But people who weren't dumb didn't need to worry about getting infected with stuff, between browsing responsibly and using software to protect themselves further.[2016-1-13. : 4:48 pm] Fire_Kame -- SacrieurSacrieur shouted: it means the environment needs to be one of quality. Having worked in a back alley is unacceptable. dammit, guess I can't apply[2016-1-13. : 4:43 pm] Roy -- NudeRaiderNudeRaider shouted: NudeRaider not much, apparently. So let me try and reply without knowing what you meant. Do you think Microsoft has never made a bad decision regarding OS development? What would you have said, sitting on a perfectly fine Windows 98 SE, being forced to switch to Windows ME? What would you have said, sitting on a perfectly fine Windows XP when MS forcibly tried to shove UAC down your throat. What about Metro? I believe in freedom to choice. That's not paranoia, that's what history taught us. It will also be harder for companies catering to OS extensions. They will need to be on the lookout for code changes that affect their software. And you can't tell your customers to simply avoid patch xy. XP, perfectly fine? It was a security nightmare that Vista had the misfortune of attempting to fix. Remember when viruses and antivirus software were huge? Yeah, that was XP's legacy. Now you get made fun of if you have Norton installed.[2016-1-13. : 4:36 pm] Sacrieur -- it means the environment needs to be one of quality. Having worked in a back alley is unacceptable.[2016-1-13. : 4:34 pm] Fire_Kame -- I'm looking at a job listing and it says I need to have experience in a Quality environment. WTF does that mean? An environment where QA procedures are in place?[2016-1-13. : 3:24 pm] Azrael -- lifebotlifebot shouted: Is UMS dead in broodwar? Nope. Some people who moved on to other games somehow assume it must have died without them there, but no, you can still get a full house for a map pretty easily, and that's all that really matters.[2016-1-13. : 2:09 pm] lil-Inferno -- lifebotlifebot shouted: Is UMS dead in broodwar? I remember you. You made a thing.[2016-1-13. : 1:47 pm] JCarrill0 -- lifebotlifebot shouted: Is UMS dead in broodwar? I play it daily, even been updating my maps (I dont expect anyone to think they are good, but your free to check them out)[2016-1-13. : 12:08 pm] NudeRaider -- I wonder if liking this kind of joke makes me a good father. Or is it just the other way around?[2016-1-13. : 8:09 am] Oh_Man -- Oh_ManOh_Man shouted: lifebot Hell no. Come channel donuts in US East[2016-1-13. : 7:44 am] O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- I didn't get to play with chkdraft today. Instead I got to sit around and wait and now have a new nephew.[2016-1-13. : 7:32 am] NudeRaider -- NudeRaiderNudeRaider shouted: Dem0n What do you mean? not much, apparently. So let me try and reply without knowing what you meant. Do you think Microsoft has never made a bad decision regarding OS development? What would you have said, sitting on a perfectly fine Windows 98 SE, being forced to switch to Windows ME? What would you have said, sitting on a perfectly fine Windows XP when MS forcibly tried to shove UAC down your throat. What about Metro? I believe in freedom to choice. That's not paranoia, that's what history taught us. It will also be harder for companies catering to OS extensions. They will need to be on the lookout for code changes that affect their software. And you can't tell your customers to simply avoid patch xy.[2016-1-13. : 7:05 am] NudeRaider -- I like the concept of buying software. If it works well I'll buy it and be happy until the times change. Why would I want to rent a service that will be constantly changing? Just 1 reason: So I can quit when the service becomes shit. Lower investment.[2016-1-13. : 7:01 am] NudeRaider -- Dem0nDem0n shouted: Don't be OS artisans and just use Windows, imo. Windows was nice for a decade. With their current plans it's better to look out for alternatives before it's too late.[2016-1-13. : 6:59 am] NudeRaider -- Mini Moose 2707Mini Moose 2707 shouted: Just because I use different software doesn't mean anyone else should. If there were a significant advantage (other than being free and open source), then I would advocate harder. But as far as I know and for my requirements, there isn't. mhhhh avocadoes![2016-1-13. : 6:32 am] NudeRaider -- My main gripe with it is frequent crashes (but its functional document recovery saves your ass there) and that they change a lot of the internal stuff how things are handled, so every new version has new or different quirks, which you only notice after a while, which is pretty terrible in a busines environment |