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[2016-5-01. : 8:49 pm]  Corbo -- CaptainWillCaptainWill shouted: So it's basically a remote controlled ball with a head? The sphero one's pretty cool, though. Has random roam around, I think it can also learn where obstacles are so it doesn't bump again with it. emotes and can RC it.[2016-5-01. : 8:48 pm]  Moose -- I wonder if its programmers used tabs or spaces when they programmed it.[2016-5-01. : 8:06 pm]  Fire_Kame -- The head is attached with a magnetic so it actually rolls like a ball[2016-5-01. : 8:03 pm] Fire_Kame -- http://www.sphero.com/?gclid=CjwKEAjw0pa5BRCLmoKIx_HTh1wSJABk5F_4Q5ihkVe4k8_Wj4LFSVS7nRBr_1HZuE6e40OWsoLKWhoCV57w_wcB[2016-5-01. : 8:02 pm] Fire_Kame -- AND AND AND IT HAS A "Watch the Force Awakens with bb8" SETTING CAN YOU IMAGINE[2016-5-01. : 8:01 pm] Fire_Kame -- CaptainWillCaptainWill shouted: Aren't those BB8s quite expensive? the one we got was about 140 bucks, not an every day purchase certainly but i loves it[2016-5-01. : 8:01 pm] Roy -- But yes, you are indeed correct that in specific and limited scenarios, tabs manage to be as competent as spaces most of the time.[2016-5-01. : 7:57 pm] Roy -- Sublime Text is particularly grand in this regard: it'll adhere to the source's indentation style by default.[2016-5-01. : 7:55 pm] Roy -- I'm not even particular about it: sometimes I'm dealing with JavaScript that only uses two spaces for indentation. And you know what? It's perfectly fine.[2016-5-01. : 7:54 pm] Roy -- There are exactly zero people at my work who complain about the indent size of our source code, despite us using spaces, for what it's worth. It's just a non-issue.[2016-5-01. : 7:52 pm] Roy -- NudeRaiderNudeRaider shouted: Sacrieur I've already conceded that tabs are no good for programs not intended to interpret code. Which should then lead to the realization that tabs aren't versatile enough to be used in a professional or collaborative world. Isolated projects don't have to adhere to conventions, designs, comments, or anything else, because only the person hacking away at it has to care about it. But all these things matter as soon as you bring someone else into the matter. You suggest a collaborative environment when you mention multiple users utilizing different tab widths, so your justification for tabs only fits an incredibly narrow subset of real-world scenarios that still has a host of problems, just not as wildly encountered as more common environments.[2016-5-01. : 7:47 pm] Roy -- NudeRaiderNudeRaider shouted: Roy if I see 8 spaces it could mean the coder likes wide indents and there should be 1 indent or that he likes indents 4 spaces wide. If I see 2 tabs, I know they want to indent twice. If you're looking at code out of context the local indent level should be zero.[2016-5-01. : 7:42 pm] KrayZee -- zsnakezzzsnakezz shouted: ʕノ•ᴥ•ʔノ ︵ ┻━┻ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJyHfKNNaes[2016-5-01. : 7:34 pm] zsnakezz -- like all my new games dont work right because AMD shat on my computer, now i cant even work on my map, next thing you know my legs are going to fall off[2016-5-01. : 7:34 pm] KrayZee -- Mini Moose 2707Mini Moose 2707 shouted: His name actually isn't Jeff. It tricked me, too. I thought jiu-jitsu[2016-5-01. : 7:22 pm] zsnakezz -- Honestly, i get so little feedback that all value i have in doing this is my own. I dont care if he wants to use my work for whatever reason, ill still continue my own[2016-5-01. : 7:22 pm] NudeRaider -- zsnakezzzsnakezz shouted: there you go jeff, sent you the map if you want to check it out jeff  [2016-5-01. : 7:19 pm] NudeRaider -- as far as I know there's 2 versions. A cheap toy version and an expensive one. Wouldn't know the specifics though.[2016-5-01. : 7:10 pm] Fire_Kame -- You can put him in patrol mode and he bumps into things and then sends a collision report[2016-5-01. : 7:07 pm] Sacrieur -- Like when you copy code into a textbox and everything is formatted properly.[2016-5-01. : 7:07 pm] NudeRaider -- SacrieurSacrieur shouted: Sacrieur Sacrieur Sacrieur I've already conceded that tabs are no good for programs not intended to interpret code.[2016-5-01. : 7:07 pm] NudeRaider -- SacrieurSacrieur shouted: I guess I'm reduced to "Roy's sidekick" despite having experience in the matter and rationality on my side. Because discrediting me as nothing more than a shill makes you look better. Really though, it just demonstrates the futility of your arguments and how unsupported your position is. this is why SacrieurSacrieur shouted: yay! SacrieurSacrieur shouted: yeah! SacrieurSacrieur shouted: miracles! [2016-5-01. : 7:06 pm] Sacrieur -- I also use python, so whitespace is pretty important to get right.[2016-5-01. : 7:06 pm] Sacrieur -- I also have numerous problems with other text editors copying and pasting code. Skype, online fields, and email.[2016-5-01. : 7:04 pm] Sacrieur -- SacrieurSacrieur shouted: I use a proprietary in-browser text editor for school that formats tabs really weird, but whitespace is the one thing it can get right. SacrieurSacrieur shouted: Clokr_ At work we had some data that could be exported into an excel file, only we don't use excel at work, we use openoffice. So naturally it doesn't want to import correctly. One of the problems is that it was encoded in UTF-8, but not properly for some reason. SacrieurSacrieur shouted: I was formatting a text document the other day, then saved it. When I sent it to another computer that could print it using professional printing equipment, everything was skewed and out of place. The formatting was all wrong so I had to spend another half an hour fixing it. [2016-5-01. : 7:03 pm] Sacrieur -- I guess I'm reduced to "Roy's sidekick" despite having experience in the matter and rationality on my side. Because discrediting me as nothing more than a shill makes you look better. Really though, it just demonstrates the futility of your arguments and how unsupported your position is.[2016-5-01. : 7:03 pm] NudeRaider -- SacrieurSacrieur shouted: Your arguments are worse than a religious fundamentalist. And you're demonstratively wrong. I gave three separate personal anecdotes directly to programming and how \t has caused considerable problems. sorry I haven't seen those. Can you quote?[2016-5-01. : 7:01 pm] Sacrieur -- But go ahead and keep sticking your fingers in your ears and screaming about how your way is best because you like it more.[2016-5-01. : 7:00 pm] Sacrieur -- Your arguments are worse than a religious fundamentalist. And you're demonstratively wrong. I gave three separate personal anecdotes directly to programming and how \t has caused considerable problems.[2016-5-01. : 6:59 pm] Moose -- Boutta break out the rational discussion flowchart: http://stinkin-thinkin.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/Debate1.jpeg[2016-5-01. : 6:58 pm] NudeRaider -- SacrieurSacrieur shouted: NudeRaider So far we've been the only ones with anything meaningful to say. Unless you seee dragging out a pedantic argument where there's a clear and superior position as meaningful. I find that to be the opposite of meaningful. alright, lets talk about who of the two of us has been more meaningless so far. I say you.#[2016-5-01. : 6:57 pm] Sacrieur -- NudeRaiderNudeRaider shouted: Sacrieur sheesh just stay out of this if you have nothing meaningful to contruibute. You insult yourself by just being roys sidekick and agreeing with everything he says So far we've been the only ones with anything meaningful to say. Unless you seee dragging out a pedantic argument where there's a clear and superior position as meaningful. I find that to be the opposite of meaningful.[2016-5-01. : 6:42 pm] Clokr_ -- I was going to say that this is better than memes, but really is not. We need our memes back.[2016-5-01. : 6:41 pm] NudeRaider -- CorboCorbo shouted: Clokr_ Roy Roy Mini Moose 2707 Please don't. An arguement about what arguement have next. you don't appreciate a good argument? [2016-5-01. : 6:41 pm] Corbo -- Clokr_Clokr_ shouted: Corbo And we haven't even started the git vs svn one! RoyRoy shouted: That one's not even a holy war. A DVCS wins every time. RoyRoy shouted: Try Git vs Mercurial, maybe. Mini Moose 2707Mini Moose 2707 shouted: Clokr_ Need to get you guys on Linux for vi vs emacs Please don't. An arguement about what arguement have next. [2016-5-01. : 6:40 pm] NudeRaider -- but I don't know if he actually codes in it. He uses it as config file editor.[2016-5-01. : 6:39 pm] NudeRaider -- Mini Moose 2707Mini Moose 2707 shouted: NudeRaider It can be super powerful. Everyone so often you'll run into some old timer who does all his work in a couple of emacs instances with roughly 8 panes open who manages to do more programming in an hour than you do all day. Without using the mouse. I know such a guy. He's a nano guy tho[2016-5-01. : 6:38 pm] Moose -- NudeRaiderNudeRaider shouted: Mini Moose 2707 "the extensible, customizable, self-documenting, real-time display editor". >>> sounds like my cup of tea It can be super powerful. Everyone so often you'll run into some old timer who does all his work in a couple of emacs instances with roughly 8 panes open who manages to do more programming in an hour than you do all day. Without using the mouse.[2016-5-01. : 6:36 pm] jjf28 -- reminds me of http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-19GvLB4DBmw/U6L5P-m3kCI/AAAAAAAAoWA/oqqCjIEyV6U/s1600/10340177_10152368407246840_2270009726110995144_n.jpg[2016-5-01. : 6:36 pm] NudeRaider -- Mini Moose 2707Mini Moose 2707 shouted: Clokr_ Need to get you guys on Linux for vi vs emacs "the extensible, customizable, self-documenting, real-time display editor". >>> sounds like my cup of tea |
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