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[2016-5-02. : 5:35 pm]
jjf28 -- 64254 characters divided into 1032+ strings is way too much
[2016-5-02. : 5:30 pm]
jjf28 -- you're almost definitely at the string limit zzsnake
[2016-5-02. : 4:51 pm]
TiKels -- I might continue learning about this stuff. I find it really cool
[2016-5-02. : 4:48 pm]
TiKels -- Or well, the day of
[2016-5-02. : 4:48 pm]
TiKels -- Great. You all come out of the woodwork an hour before my project is due
[2016-5-02. : 4:47 pm]
dumbducky -- Oh shit are we taking neural networks?
[2016-5-02. : 4:38 pm]
Clokr_ -- Vrael, it does sound interesting. Do you have any good references to get started on this?
[2016-5-02. : 4:27 pm]
TiKels -- I think the most complicated thing in there is matrix inverse
[2016-5-02. : 4:26 pm]
TiKels -- It's like 50 lines of code or less
[2016-5-02. : 4:26 pm]
TiKels -- Also I should mention that this is not some kind of gui, all the code is just Matrix math and standard functions. That's what makes it even more frustrating
[2016-5-02. : 3:46 pm]
TiKels -- What kind of research do you do?
[2016-5-02. : 3:41 pm]
NudeRaider -- dark :) http://i.imgur.com/VKS90o2.jpg literally.
[2016-5-02. : 3:36 pm]
Vrael -- I'm a research scientist [BUZZWORD ALERT]DATA SCIENTIST[/BUZZWORD ALERT}
[2016-5-02. : 3:34 pm]
Vrael -- I build ML models every day
[2016-5-02. : 3:34 pm]
Vrael -- this shit is my job
[2016-5-02. : 3:34 pm]
Vrael -- well that doesnt sound degenerate
[2016-5-02. : 3:34 pm]
TiKels -- Good for you
[2016-5-02. : 3:34 pm]
TiKels -- I'm impressed you're this well versed vrael
[2016-5-02. : 3:33 pm]
TiKels -- I know I can alter the number of layers but that's a bit outside the scope of my knowledge. The neuron count is pretty simple though
[2016-5-02. : 3:32 pm]
TiKels -- I was doing 10 neurons with one hidden layer.
[2016-5-02. : 3:32 pm]
Vrael -- if the other setup was specifically tuned to that data you could have like, a single node NN or something degenerate like that which isn't working
[2016-5-02. : 3:31 pm]
Vrael -- if you have parameters for those
[2016-5-02. : 3:31 pm]
Vrael -- well, maybe try a less restrictive set of hidden layer depth/width
[2016-5-02. : 3:30 pm]
Vrael -- ok
[2016-5-02. : 3:30 pm]
TiKels -- No no, I trained it again. I meant the same method of training
[2016-5-02. : 3:30 pm]
Vrael -- you can't train on a data set of shoe sizes and expect to do facial recognition
[2016-5-02. : 3:29 pm]
Vrael -- you need to train it again on the X's and Y's for each data set
[2016-5-02. : 3:29 pm]
Vrael -- ok well, don't use the exact same network
[2016-5-02. : 3:29 pm]
TiKels -- Using the exact same network it was able to perfectly approximate a different set of data, but if I switch the data to my case it just looks awful
[2016-5-02. : 3:29 pm]
Vrael -- thats probably the best, though I also support your decision to go with a simpler model lol
[2016-5-02. : 3:28 pm]
TiKels -- That's just the thing. I don't know enough about the method to actually tell you what's going wrong. I'm gonna ask the prof about it
[2016-5-02. : 3:26 pm]
TiKels -- You mean my training data? It's handed to me. I don't get to generate it
[2016-5-02. : 3:26 pm]
Vrael -- a NN should have no problem generalizing something that simple
[2016-5-02. : 3:26 pm]
Vrael -- maybe you're generating x and y wrong
[2016-5-02. : 3:26 pm]
Vrael -- well, like I said, look at your feature set
[2016-5-02. : 3:25 pm]
TiKels -- Because it actually was able to approximate the function
[2016-5-02. : 3:25 pm]
TiKels -- I eneed up swithing to a method using radial feedback with gaussIan activation functions
[2016-5-02. : 3:23 pm]
TiKels -- There was a set of x and y values that looked similar to a sine wave. I need to make a neutral network approximate this function and then determine its effectiveness in extrapolation and interpolation. Then, perform sensitivity analysis as to how well it converges when changing initial conditions (eg learning rate, iteration count, etc)
[2016-5-02. : 3:21 pm]
Vrael -- but what's your question?
[2016-5-02. : 3:20 pm]
TiKels -- Vrael
Vrael shouted: there's no reason a NN should be limited to only radially symmetric data
i was trying to use a particular neural network structure to do curve fitting. The method is called back propogation. The activation/threshold function was bipolar sigmoid.
[2016-5-02. : 3:12 pm]
Vrael -- so take a good hard look at what your feature set looks like
[2016-5-02. : 3:12 pm]
Vrael -- but a shitty algorithm with great features will outperform the strongest algorithm with shitty features
[2016-5-02. : 3:12 pm]
Vrael -- unless you're trying to do automated feature discovery with 'deep learning' you probably don't even need a neural network and will get equivalent results with a faster algorithm, if training time is an issue for you
[2016-5-02. : 3:11 pm]
Vrael -- however, the point most people miss is that the NN probably is not the problem, most likely it's your feature set
[2016-5-02. : 3:10 pm]
Vrael -- there's no reason a NN should be limited to only radially symmetric data
[2016-5-02. : 3:04 pm]
Vrael -- also to use them properly you di need to know how they work and why they work and all those other important details, or you'll end up like my co-workers who use this shit wrong and build shitty models that don't work
[2016-5-02. : 3:03 pm]
TiKels -- I took a class on AI and we spent 3 weeks on neutral nets.
[2016-5-02. : 3:03 pm]
Vrael -- Sacrieur
Sacrieur shouted: It's a waste of effort on my part to even attempt it, since I'm not going to school for eight years to learn about artificial intelligence and neural networks.
also 1 semester class will probably bring you up to date
[2016-5-02. : 3:03 pm]
Vrael -- Sacrieur
Sacrieur shouted: And also since neural networks are relatively new, there really isn't that much support for it.
this is not true, also neural networks were developed in the 60's
[2016-5-02. : 3:02 pm]
Vrael -- but for scientific computing python gets my vote
[2016-5-02. : 3:01 pm]
Vrael -- TiKels
TiKels shouted: What's a common engineering coding language? Or one that generalizes well to other engineering languages
python. also maybe something like julia, scala, or go, but really too many engineers use java
[2016-5-02. : 3:00 pm]
Clokr_ -- and the compression files are the ones from StormLib made by Zezula :P
[2016-5-02. : 2:59 pm]
Clokr_ -- the one for SFmpqapi
[2016-5-02. : 2:58 pm]
jjf28 -- which source code? :)
[2016-5-02. : 2:56 pm]
Clokr_ -- Oh god, I'm looking at the source code and it has not a single comment.
[2016-5-02. : 2:55 pm]
jjf28 -- doubtful, but I read in everything I use ne ways (<30MBs)
[2016-5-02. : 2:53 pm]
Clokr_ -- Oh, is it thread-safe?
[2016-5-02. : 2:45 pm]
jjf28 -- using SFmpq
[2016-5-02. : 2:42 pm]
Clokr_ -- jjf28, are you using StormLib for chkdraft?
[2016-5-02. : 2:38 pm]
jjf28 -- Lanthanide
Lanthanide shouted: apparently only to new messages, not to replies
Lanthanide
Lanthanide shouted: apparently only to new messages, not to replies
Lanthanide
Lanthanide shouted: bit dumb
QFT
[2016-5-02. : 1:57 pm]
Clokr_ -- Corbo
Corbo shouted: yes it does
I was going to look on his webpage. I have been checking the StormLib documentation as I'm rewriting the MPQ I/O code for SF:U.
[2016-5-02. : 1:51 pm]
lil-Inferno -- probably tucked your kids into bed the night before ROFL
[2016-5-02. : 1:40 pm]
lil-Inferno -- Mini Moose 2707
Mini Moose 2707 shouted: You're complicated to build, but not to work with. :wub:
Up at 6:26 like a family man LMAO
[2016-5-02. : 1:39 pm]
lil-Inferno -- TiKels
TiKels shouted: It's really not that complicated. Don't be so lazy, sacrieur :P
rekt
[2016-5-02. : 12:53 pm]
Corbo -- yes it does
[2016-5-02. : 12:49 pm]
Corbo -- I don't think so. Does zezula havve them?
[2016-5-02. : 12:15 pm]
Clokr_ -- Are the name list somewhere?
[2016-5-02. : 12:03 pm]
Corbo -- Clokr_
Clokr_ shouted: Why are there this many MPQ in the StarCraft version you download from the Blizzard store? Starcraft.mpq? Broodwar.mpq?
Voyager7456
Voyager7456 shouted: Clokr_ I think they're the contents of the disks since they've added official no-CD support
pretty much, yeah.
[2016-5-02. : 11:51 am]
Voyager7456 -- Clokr_
Clokr_ shouted: Why are there this many MPQ in the StarCraft version you download from the Blizzard store? Starcraft.mpq? Broodwar.mpq?
I think they're the contents of the disks since they've added official no-CD support
[2016-5-02. : 11:10 am]
Clokr_ -- Why are there this many MPQ in the StarCraft version you download from the Blizzard store? Starcraft.mpq? Broodwar.mpq?

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