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[2016-7-19. : 2:34 am]
Dem0n -- Spent millions of dollars on it and still can't fix it >___>
[2016-7-19. : 2:34 am]
Vrael -- wow the coding conversation still going
[2016-7-19. : 2:33 am]
Dem0n -- Thanks, MS
[2016-7-19. : 2:33 am]
Dem0n -- Why is Skype such garbage
[2016-7-19. : 2:33 am]
Moose -- Roy
Roy shouted: CecilSunkure Uh, no, it's the thing I said. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scope_(computer_science)
:roy:kt
[2016-7-19. : 2:32 am]
Roy -- CecilSunkure
CecilSunkure shouted: Roy Nope that's basic API design, which requires actual thought unlike OOP. And yes, regrettably, my example was basic OOP methodology.
Uh, no, it's the thing I said. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scope_(computer_science)
[2016-7-19. : 2:22 am]
O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- It's not impossible, it's just extremely helpful
[2016-7-19. : 2:16 am]
Sacrieur -- you have inheritance all over the place
[2016-7-19. : 2:16 am]
Sacrieur -- game development is impossible without OOP
[2016-7-19. : 2:11 am]
Moose -- So yeah, didn't Cecil study game dev? Where he has to crank out a bajillion frames per second and can't really afford to have a bunch of things taking 10ms each per frame?
[2016-7-19. : 2:01 am]
Moose -- FaRTy1billion
FaRTy1billion shouted: Let's just all write directly in ASM
To be honest, family, only way to really know what your code is doing.
[2016-7-19. : 2:01 am]
O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- all this unnecessary high-level stuff does is make things messy and hard to follow
[2016-7-19. : 2:01 am]
O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- Let's just all write directly in ASM
[2016-7-19. : 1:58 am]
CecilSunkure -- Mini Moose 2707
Mini Moose 2707 shouted: Paul Graham on OO, IMO
I agree with him. He's right
[2016-7-19. : 1:57 am]
lil-Inferno -- what else is new
[2016-7-19. : 1:57 am]
lil-Inferno -- ayy 0 box
[2016-7-19. : 1:57 am]
lil-Inferno -- w/e
[2016-7-19. : 1:43 am]
Moose -- Paul Graham on OO, IMO
[2016-7-19. : 1:35 am]
O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- :wob:
[2016-7-19. : 1:25 am]
Moose -- jjf28
jjf28 shouted: maybe a string or two
But not std::string, you can't assume that the standard library is on all hardware X^DDDDDD
[2016-7-19. : 1:24 am]
lil-Inferno -- With full VCS support and everything.
[2016-7-19. : 1:24 am]
Moose -- If he needs three, get the modders to pick obscure .dat files we only have shitty tools for
[2016-7-19. : 1:24 am]
jjf28 -- maybe a string or two
[2016-7-19. : 1:24 am]
lil-Inferno -- SCX Studio here we come!
[2016-7-19. : 1:24 am]
lil-Inferno -- LMAO
[2016-7-19. : 1:24 am]
Moose -- You're welcome, SEN
[2016-7-19. : 1:24 am]
Moose -- Boutta get a new editor out of this
[2016-7-19. : 1:24 am]
Moose -- Actually, yeah, that's a good idea. The .CHK
[2016-7-19. : 1:23 am]
jjf28 -- hmm? just throw some primitives inside
[2016-7-19. : 1:23 am]
Moose -- the CHK LMAO
[2016-7-19. : 1:23 am]
CecilSunkure -- jj, what structures? I'll come back later and will expect an answer!
[2016-7-19. : 1:23 am]
Moose -- True, need that embedded C
[2016-7-19. : 1:22 am]
lil-Inferno -- ur microwave LMAO
[2016-7-19. : 1:22 am]
Moose -- TBH, can't remember the last computer I used without a JVM
[2016-7-19. : 1:21 am]
lil-Inferno -- >Arguing about efficiency >Being inefficient about it >SMH
[2016-7-19. : 1:20 am]
jjf28 -- Admin miniMoose = new RetiredAdmin
[2016-7-19. : 1:20 am]
CecilSunkure -- Other languages make that a non-option. And, without any added benefit (which I can back up if we get the example rolling)
[2016-7-19. : 1:19 am]
ejac1337 -- Admin miniMoose = new Admin<staredit.net>();
[2016-7-19. : 1:19 am]
CecilSunkure -- Lol. It's because in order to make my argument I need to reason about what the code does when run on hardware
[2016-7-19. : 1:19 am]
Moose -- Doesn't want to use Java because then the OOP might be too easy to work with LMAO
[2016-7-19. : 1:18 am]
CecilSunkure -- Ok boutta go in tunnel cya on the other side
[2016-7-19. : 1:18 am]
CecilSunkure -- Also the limitation is C++ because fk the non native code
[2016-7-19. : 1:17 am]
ejac1337 -- asdf
[2016-7-19. : 1:16 am]
CecilSunkure -- jjf28
jjf28 shouted: CecilSunkure you could serialize and deserialize, say, 3 different structures/objects into CSV files
okay. What structures
[2016-7-19. : 1:16 am]
Moose -- lil-Inferno
lil-Inferno shouted: While y'all niggas are arguing, I'm actually programming and getting fat stacks LMAO
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[2016-7-19. : 1:16 am]
CecilSunkure -- Get your POOP straight
[2016-7-19. : 1:16 am]
jjf28 -- CecilSunkure
CecilSunkure shouted: So for example I was thinking of parsing a text file
you could serialize and deserialize, say, 3 different structures/objects into CSV files
[2016-7-19. : 1:16 am]
lil-Inferno -- sure it does
[2016-7-19. : 1:16 am]
CecilSunkure -- With doesn't count noob
[2016-7-19. : 1:15 am]
lil-Inferno -- No, PWOOP
[2016-7-19. : 1:15 am]
CecilSunkure -- lil-Inferno
lil-Inferno shouted: Programming with OOP btw
POOP
[2016-7-19. : 1:15 am]
lil-Inferno -- Programming with OOP btw
[2016-7-19. : 1:14 am]
lil-Inferno -- While y'all niggas are arguing, I'm actually programming and getting fat stacks LMAO
[2016-7-19. : 1:14 am]
CecilSunkure -- I'll go for whatever as long as it's a specific problem
[2016-7-19. : 1:14 am]
Moose -- Boutta do whatever your parser does on the command line in two minutes LMAO
[2016-7-19. : 1:14 am]
Moose -- CecilSunkure
CecilSunkure shouted: So for example I was thinking of parsing a text file
Yeah, reimplement awk
[2016-7-19. : 1:14 am]
lil-Inferno -- jjf28
jjf28 shouted: lil-Inferno given the profound lack of solid evidence that one style is better than the other I'd say there's plenty here worth discussing :)
They're both good for their respective applications. GG
[2016-7-19. : 1:13 am]
CecilSunkure -- Any other ideas?
[2016-7-19. : 1:13 am]
CecilSunkure -- So for example I was thinking of parsing a text file
[2016-7-19. : 1:13 am]
jjf28 -- lil-Inferno
lil-Inferno shouted: jjf28 Not that there was anything worth discussing anyway LMAO
given the profound lack of solid evidence that one style is better than the other I'd say there's plenty here worth discussing :)
[2016-7-19. : 1:12 am]
Moose -- Like when I make an array of prime numbers instead of instantiating some stupid Prime object with getValue and stupid shit LMAO
[2016-7-19. : 1:12 am]
CecilSunkure -- Mini Moose 2707
Mini Moose 2707 shouted: Isn't it still abstraction when you like, turns things into numbers and characters that represent stuff
ya
[2016-7-19. : 1:12 am]
Moose -- Isn't it still abstraction when you like, turns things into numbers and characters that represent stuff
[2016-7-19. : 1:11 am]
lil-Inferno -- jjf28
jjf28 shouted: too many trolls to discuss anything :wob:
Not that there was anything worth discussing anyway LMAO
[2016-7-19. : 1:11 am]
Moose -- Best shoutbox 2016, forget Tabs v Spaces, that's over
[2016-7-19. : 1:11 am]
Dem0n -- without one, the other crumbles
[2016-7-19. : 1:11 am]
CecilSunkure -- jjf28
jjf28 shouted: CecilSunkure but programming in OOP means you're focusing on abstraction, among the other 3 pillars
I'd say for porting the abstraction is fairly easy. It's the API design that's hard
[2016-7-19. : 1:11 am]
Dem0n -- jjf28
jjf28 shouted: CecilSunkure but programming in OOP means you're focusing on abstraction, among the other 3 pillars
the faith and the crown are the two pillars of the world
[2016-7-19. : 1:10 am]
lil-Inferno -- close shoutbox, this argument is over

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