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[2016-7-19. : 1:10 am]  jjf28 -- CecilSunkureCecilSunkure shouted: jjf28 Yes! But abstraction does not necessitate OOP but programming in OOP means you're focusing on abstraction, among the other 3 pillars[2016-7-19. : 1:09 am] CecilSunkure -- Mini Moose 2707Mini Moose 2707 shouted: Sacrieur By THINKING He's got it. Stickers for all[2016-7-19. : 1:09 am]  Moose -- SacrieurSacrieur shouted: How are you abstracting without it? By THINKING[2016-7-19. : 1:09 am] CecilSunkure -- I'm serious I will solve a problem tonight if we get a good suggestion, with and without OOP[2016-7-19. : 1:09 am] jjf28 -- SacrieurSacrieur shouted: jjf28 You never actually finish the project and get fired. SacrieurSacrieur shouted: Congrats! completely irrelevant and inappropriate to the discussion at hand[2016-7-19. : 1:08 am] CecilSunkure -- jjf28jjf28 shouted: CecilSunkure abstraction makes it so the areas of the program you have to port are way more limited Yes! But abstraction does not necessitate OOP[2016-7-19. : 1:08 am] Sacrieur -- jjf28jjf28 shouted: way better: solve it both ways; then port it to two different OSs You never actually finish the project and get fired.[2016-7-19. : 1:08 am] jjf28 -- CecilSunkureCecilSunkure shouted: jjf28 Porting is a problem of its own. OOP will not help. abstraction makes it so the areas of the program you have to port are way more limited[2016-7-19. : 1:07 am] CecilSunkure -- jjf28jjf28 shouted: way better: solve it both ways; then port it to two different OSs Porting is a problem of its own. OOP will not help.[2016-7-19. : 1:07 am] Moose -- TBH, Cecil probably also mad everyone gets so much OOP shoved up their ass that they don't know when not to use it[2016-7-19. : 1:05 am] Moose -- lil-Infernolil-Inferno shouted: add two numbers together Oh, damn, got make a new Number n1 and new Number n2, OOP is making this so easy LMAO[2016-7-19. : 1:05 am] Sacrieur -- You're building a module that exposes data of a customer to a sales employee.[2016-7-19. : 1:05 am] jjf28 -- Not like I didn't already graduate with several classes focusing on OOP  [2016-7-19. : 1:04 am] CecilSunkure -- I'd be happy to spend tonight solving a problem with OOP and without[2016-7-19. : 1:04 am] Moose -- SacrieurSacrieur shouted: You're essentially asking, "Show me where anatomy is used in medicine!" Probably models the body parts as objects in a hierarchy amirite[2016-7-19. : 1:04 am] jjf28 -- no, I'm asking for concrete comparisons between two programming styles, I know many theoretical advantages and disadvantages of procedural and OOP[2016-7-19. : 1:03 am] CecilSunkure -- Oh I think jj is just asking for a case study of OOP can something else to solve a problem[2016-7-19. : 1:03 am] Sacrieur -- You're essentially asking, "Show me where anatomy is used in medicine!"[2016-7-19. : 1:02 am] Sacrieur -- Here's a book: http://www.ucccs.info/ucc/ucc3/ucc_folder/cs3500/books/Prentice%20Object%20Oriented%20Software%20Engineering%20Using%20UML%20Patterns%20and%20Java%203rd%202012.pdf[2016-7-19. : 1:00 am] CecilSunkure -- Lots of shit used to be pervasive. Like human slavery and malaria[2016-7-19. : 1:00 am]  Corbo -- SMH people arguing and they are missing gold like this SacrieurSacrieur shouted: Oh okay so suddenly it's not about living next to the hardware. Mini Moose 2707Mini Moose 2707 shouted: It's about sending a message. Dem0nDem0n shouted: Everything burns! LMAO[2016-7-19. : 12:59 am] Sacrieur -- I literally have to learn a language to MODEL fucking OOP. Not even fucking program it. That's how pervasive it is in software engineering.[2016-7-19. : 12:57 am] CecilSunkure -- SacrieurSacrieur shouted: Especially due to the fact software is developed in teams. I would say in this case having a standard is good. Not necessarily that OOP is a good standard[2016-7-19. : 12:56 am] jjf28 -- jjf28jjf28 shouted: what we really need is some studies comparing programs done in OOP and procedural manners SacrieurSacrieur shouted: We do. SacrieurSacrieur shouted: There are coders fresh out of college, and then senior developers. Bring me a bag of Bigfoot's droppings or shut up![2016-7-19. : 12:56 am] CecilSunkure -- Mini Moose 2707Mini Moose 2707 shouted: CecilSunkure So again, what is a good practice. You just say "not OOP" and vague shit. Good practice is case by case to each problem. So we need a problem to be less vague, and then to solve it[2016-7-19. : 12:56 am] Sacrieur -- In software engineering practice, OOP is rigorously enforced in most systems because of its superiority in sustainability, abstraction, and flexibility.[2016-7-19. : 12:55 am] Moose -- CecilSunkureCecilSunkure shouted: Mini Moose 2707 Never ever oh god please So again, what is a good practice. You just say "not OOP" and vague shit.[2016-7-19. : 12:55 am] CecilSunkure -- GeneralpieGeneralpie shouted: CecilSunkure The difference between a soldier out of basic and a vet of 40 years is pay. If they both OOP, yes[2016-7-19. : 12:55 am] Generalpie -- CecilSunkureCecilSunkure shouted: Sacrieur One is paid more. Done. The difference between a soldier out of basic and a vet of 40 years is pay.[2016-7-19. : 12:54 am] CecilSunkure -- Mini Moose 2707Mini Moose 2707 shouted: CecilSunkure But never OOP as the solution Never ever oh god please[2016-7-19. : 12:54 am] Moose -- CecilSunkureCecilSunkure shouted: Mini Moose 2707 Specific problem, specific solution But never OOP as the solution[2016-7-19. : 12:54 am] CecilSunkure -- SacrieurSacrieur shouted: You'll see the difference. One is paid more. Done.[2016-7-19. : 12:54 am] jjf28 -- comparing developing time, efficiency, and in subsequent rounds adaptability[2016-7-19. : 12:54 am] Sacrieur -- There are coders fresh out of college, and then senior developers. |
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