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[2016-9-13. : 1:55 pm] O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- LanthanideLanthanide shouted: there are 11 national holidays, but you only get them if they fall on a day that you work I get them no matter what, and can either choose to work them (1.5x working pay plus holdiay pay), or take the holiday or another day that week off[2016-9-13. : 1:04 pm] Wing Zero -- Sand WraithSand Wraith shouted: I wonder what'll happen given last episodes ending Re:Zero is definitly my favorite anime from these past few seasons[2016-9-13. : 12:15 pm] Fire_Kame -- But our holiday party is 2.5xs if you're working that day,so that's neat[2016-9-13. : 12:15 pm] Fire_Kame -- The worst part of pto to me is that most companies make you work about six months before you start accruing it.[2016-9-13. : 11:09 am] Moose -- Here there's no requirement but employers can give whatever they choose to because we have FREEDOM. (freedom to fuck people over LMAO)[2016-9-13. : 8:16 am] Stranger -- Heh... It's 25 days paid leave minimum in France (lowest standard), but depending on the company and on your working hours, it can be more, like 40 days paid leave in the year. It was still better back in school though x) I guess professors are best placed for this ^_^[2016-9-13. : 7:58 am] Lanthanide -- I've got 17 days sick leave stored up; just used 1 day today, and will probably use another one tomorrow[2016-9-13. : 7:57 am] Lanthanide -- it accrues up to a maximum of 20 days anyway so if you don't use it in some years, it gets stored for the future[2016-9-13. : 7:57 am] Lanthanide -- doesn't work in the other direction though; if you're not sick, you're not supposed to take your sick leave[2016-9-13. : 7:57 am] Lanthanide -- also we effectively have the flexi-leave thing here anyway, if you run out of sick leave, most employers will allow you to choose to use your annual leave in its place[2016-9-13. : 7:55 am] Lanthanide -- if you work Monday-Friday then you will get all of them, as the few that are able to fall onto the weekends are instead pushed forwards to the next Monday/Tuesday in a somewhat complicated manner[2016-9-13. : 7:55 am] Lanthanide -- there are 11 national holidays, but you only get them if they fall on a day that you work[2016-9-13. : 7:53 am] Lanthanide -- in NZ everyone gets a minimum of 20 days paid leave + 5 days sick leave + national holidays a year[2016-9-13. : 7:52 am] Lanthanide -- often companies that bring this policy in will give you less total days leave, eg if it used to be 10 days vacation + 4 days sick leave, now you only get 12 days flexi-leave instead[2016-9-13. : 7:52 am] Lanthanide -- another thing that's becoming common in the US is flexi-leave, so rather than getting vacation days and sick days, you just get a single lump sum of leave that you can use as either vacation or sick leave[2016-9-13. : 7:51 am] Lanthanide -- white collar workers can usually negotiate more, or if they work for a decent company will get more[2016-9-13. : 7:51 am] Lanthanide -- NudeRaiderNudeRaider shouted: FaRTy1billion It's apparently standard in the US to get just a few days off a year. That seriously would be a deal breaker for me to work in the US. Here it's common to get around 30 days off. Do you never go on holidays? What about Christmas or Easter time? just over the weekend / feast days? Or is it just you have to make a deal with your boss and then can leave, but without pay? many people in the US get no discretionary leave at all. otherwise it's pretty common to get 10 days (2 weeks) paid leave[2016-9-13. : 6:30 am] KrayZee -- Kind of like how conservatives criticize whenever Obama golfs or takes a vacation. Even though Bush had way more vacations.[2016-9-13. : 6:12 am] O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- If you're having fun then you aren't working hard enough!![2016-9-13. : 6:08 am] O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- also the US still holds on to the mentality of less vacation + less breaks + more hours = higher productivity[2016-9-13. : 6:07 am] O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- I think you can take nonpaid leave of absence depending on what your job is[2016-9-13. : 6:07 am] O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- NudeRaiderNudeRaider shouted: FaRTy1billion thats what I mean with making a deal. FaRTy1billion yeah, but that's barely a 2-week vacation. And then you used EVERYTHING just in one spot of the year. And probably doesnt apply to you (but lots of others), but the stress really wears off only at the end of 2 weeks off, so we usually take 3 weeks so we can actually enjoy the 3rd week. It's how it's done here[2016-9-13. : 6:01 am] NudeRaider -- I'd actually accept lower pay, but I wouldn't want any less days off than we currently have.[2016-9-13. : 6:00 am] NudeRaider -- Also no wiggling room if you need single days to get something done, or want to get a long weekend when theres a holiday on tuesday or thursday[2016-9-13. : 5:59 am] NudeRaider -- FaRTy1billionFaRTy1billion shouted: nobody's required to give you any thats what I mean with making a deal. FaRTy1billionFaRTy1billion shouted: My job gives me 10 days off (paid) a year, and then there are a handful of holidays that we also get paid for (and, if we choose, we can take them off or a day that week off) yeah, but that's barely a 2-week vacation. And then you used EVERYTHING just in one spot of the year. And probably doesnt apply to you (but lots of others), but the stress really wears off only at the end of 2 weeks off, so we usually take 3 weeks so we can actually enjoy the 3rd week.[2016-9-13. : 5:39 am] O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- normally places just give you holidays off, but the nature of my job requires people be there even on holidays so it's a little different[2016-9-13. : 5:37 am] O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- like I took last Tuesday off because Monday was a holiday (and got 1.5x pay for working on a holday on Monday )[2016-9-13. : 5:37 am] O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- My job gives me 10 days off (paid) a year, and then there are a handful of holidays that we also get paid for (and, if we choose, we can take them off or a day that week off)[2016-9-13. : 5:33 am] NudeRaider -- FaRTy1billionFaRTy1billion shouted: Or was it 80 hours a year of vacation. Pretty sure it's 80 It's apparently standard in the US to get just a few days off a year. That seriously would be a deal breaker for me to work in the US. Here it's common to get around 30 days off. Do you never go on holidays? What about Christmas or Easter time? just over the weekend / feast days? Or is it just you have to make a deal with your boss and then can leave, but without pay?[2016-9-13. : 3:52 am] O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- Or are you referring to things other than just financially? ![]() [2016-9-13. : 3:48 am] O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- my friend recommended getting married for the dual income xD[2016-9-13. : 3:47 am] Fire_Kame -- Actually our combined income could probably swing it but it would mean cutting back on other things[2016-9-13. : 3:46 am] Fire_Kame -- If I had enough for a 1500 place I'd put 400 away into savings so I could but a damn house[2016-9-13. : 3:42 am] O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- if I made money then I would be ok with that, the stuff in that price range here is awesome[2016-9-13. : 3:37 am] O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- there are cheaper and more expensive, but they are not where you want to live. ![]() [2016-9-13. : 3:37 am] Fire_Kame -- rent is 1040 for a one room, and actually we're on the lower side which is fucking terrifying[2016-9-13. : 3:36 am] O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- cost of living here varies a lot, which is nice. I could get a decent 2 bedroom apartment or something near my work for like $600 or so a month or near my house for like $1.3k a month[2016-9-13. : 3:34 am] Fire_Kame -- FaRTy1billionFaRTy1billion shouted: what do you get now? 16.50... :\ cost of living is high here bruh[2016-9-13. : 3:32 am] O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- Fire_KameFire_Kame shouted: but I don't want to take phone calls for my life! I figure if I finish school or whatever I'll move on to something more relevant to that. A lot of the higher-ups or people in other departments (R&D, etc.) started at my position but just stayed within the company[2016-9-13. : 3:27 am] O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- that appears to be the only CO one we have. There are a bunch in AZ though ![]() [2016-9-13. : 3:24 am] O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- my job gives referral bonuses, but I don't know if that counts if it's in a different center |