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[2016-9-13. : 6:15 pm] Dem0n -- One of these days I should really play through Morrowind and Oblivion. I have like 30 minutes on Morrowind and 2 hours on Oblivion. Then 150+ hours on Skyrim LAMO[2016-9-13. : 6:01 pm] Fire_Kame -- Have I told you I hate my job because it requires me to disregard 90% of my vocabulary[2016-9-13. : 6:00 pm] Fire_Kame -- Dem0nDem0n shouted: I mean it's security for retirement NudeRaiderNudeRaider shouted: i was comparing our social security to yours - and complaining how I dont think you can call it security in the US I wouldn't consider it as security for retirement. People claim it's a program that's too big to fail bit even now soctal security operates on a deficit[2016-9-13. : 5:18 pm] CecilSunkure -- Walter White can be viewed as a manifestation of that repression[2016-9-13. : 4:51 pm] NudeRaider -- thinking about that... what if walter white's success is that large because every US citizen secretly wants to be him when they're sick and everyone else is just amazed as to why would anyone do something that ridiculous. perspective man.[2016-9-13. : 4:44 pm] NudeRaider -- Ah then of course you dont need security for the 40-50 years until you reach that ![]() [2016-9-13. : 4:40 pm] NudeRaider -- i was comparing our social security to yours - and complaining how I dont think you can call it security in the US[2016-9-13. : 4:38 pm] NudeRaider -- Dem0nDem0n shouted: Social Security doesn't do shit for healthcare tbh this makes me think you have no idea how these things work in EU[2016-9-13. : 4:37 pm] lil-Inferno -- StrangerStranger shouted: Heh... It's 25 days paid leave minimum in France (lowest standard), but depending on the company and on your working hours, it can be more, like 40 days paid leave in the year. It was still better back in school though x) I guess professors are best placed for this ^_^ Can take 2 months in a row off LMFAO[2016-9-13. : 4:36 pm] lil-Inferno -- jjf28jjf28 shouted: or rather deincentivizing hiring more employees at less hous stannis_baratheon_at_blackwater.jpg[2016-9-13. : 4:34 pm] NudeRaider -- i'll make this brief: sick people are paid by taxes, not their employer[2016-9-13. : 4:33 pm] NudeRaider -- really people? Are you really that oblivious as to how social security works?[2016-9-13. : 4:04 pm] jjf28 -- SacrieurSacrieur shouted: Why should your employer pay people for having health problems? SacrieurSacrieur shouted: The only way they should is if they want to. mm really, by tagging such costs to employers we're incentivizing them to max hours and minimize vacation time at a time when automation should be widdling away work hours; single-payer healthcare please![2016-9-13. : 4:00 pm] Dem0n -- Last time I went to the doctor's was to get an xray when I sprained my ankle like 3 years ago, before that it was like in 2008 the last time I went.[2016-9-13. : 3:04 pm] NudeRaider -- Mini Moose 2707Mini Moose 2707 shouted: Here there's no requirement but employers can give whatever they choose to because we have FREEDOM. (freedom to fuck people over LMAO) I wonder how many people actually think that way - without realizing the small print - and thus actually think it's a good thing. Any employee with an IQ above 80 should be able to see what's wrong. Though you can't blame the bosses for promoting this kind of thinking, of course.[2016-9-13. : 2:56 pm] NudeRaider -- Bonus days for being healthy, punishment for having bad health? Shouldn't it be the other way around? Those that have better health work more to make up for the sick ones. Help each other, not pit the fortunate vs. the unfortunate against each other![2016-9-13. : 2:54 pm] NudeRaider -- The idea of actual flexi leave is also stupid imo. When you haven't been sick there's no reason you get more days than you usually have.[2016-9-13. : 2:51 pm] NudeRaider -- LanthanideLanthanide shouted: also we effectively have the flexi-leave thing here anyway, if you run out of sick leave, most employers will allow you to choose to use your annual leave in its place what kind of sick (pun intended) system is that where your employer gets to force you to work when you happen to be sick for too long? Maybe I should be more thankful for our social security. ![]() [2016-9-13. : 2:46 pm] Wing Zero -- Sand WraithSand Wraith shouted: Wing Zero watching that character implode was hilarious I found it super frustrating how slow it was[2016-9-13. : 2:18 pm] Sand Wraith -- Wing ZeroWing Zero shouted: Sand Wraith Re:Zero is definitly my favorite anime from these past few seasons watching that character implode was hilarious[2016-9-13. : 2:10 pm] O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- FT is cool, PT only gets the 1.5x working hours and no PTO/sick, but they have way more flexibility at my job because they can basically take off or add whatever hours whenever[2016-9-13. : 1:57 pm] O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- Fire_KameFire_Kame shouted: The worst part of pto to me is that most companies make you work about six months before you start accruing it. mine it accrues in the first 6 months, so after the 6 months you already have half of it[2016-9-13. : 1:55 pm] O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- (taking a day off negates the holiday pay, because you lose a shift)[2016-9-13. : 1:55 pm] O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- LanthanideLanthanide shouted: there are 11 national holidays, but you only get them if they fall on a day that you work I get them no matter what, and can either choose to work them (1.5x working pay plus holdiay pay), or take the holiday or another day that week off[2016-9-13. : 1:04 pm] Wing Zero -- Sand WraithSand Wraith shouted: I wonder what'll happen given last episodes ending Re:Zero is definitly my favorite anime from these past few seasons[2016-9-13. : 12:15 pm] Fire_Kame -- But our holiday party is 2.5xs if you're working that day,so that's neat[2016-9-13. : 12:15 pm] Fire_Kame -- The worst part of pto to me is that most companies make you work about six months before you start accruing it.[2016-9-13. : 11:09 am] Moose -- Here there's no requirement but employers can give whatever they choose to because we have FREEDOM. (freedom to fuck people over LMAO)[2016-9-13. : 8:16 am] Stranger -- Heh... It's 25 days paid leave minimum in France (lowest standard), but depending on the company and on your working hours, it can be more, like 40 days paid leave in the year. It was still better back in school though x) I guess professors are best placed for this ^_^[2016-9-13. : 7:58 am] Lanthanide -- I've got 17 days sick leave stored up; just used 1 day today, and will probably use another one tomorrow[2016-9-13. : 7:57 am] Lanthanide -- it accrues up to a maximum of 20 days anyway so if you don't use it in some years, it gets stored for the future[2016-9-13. : 7:57 am] Lanthanide -- doesn't work in the other direction though; if you're not sick, you're not supposed to take your sick leave[2016-9-13. : 7:57 am] Lanthanide -- also we effectively have the flexi-leave thing here anyway, if you run out of sick leave, most employers will allow you to choose to use your annual leave in its place[2016-9-13. : 7:55 am] Lanthanide -- if you work Monday-Friday then you will get all of them, as the few that are able to fall onto the weekends are instead pushed forwards to the next Monday/Tuesday in a somewhat complicated manner[2016-9-13. : 7:55 am] Lanthanide -- there are 11 national holidays, but you only get them if they fall on a day that you work[2016-9-13. : 7:53 am] Lanthanide -- in NZ everyone gets a minimum of 20 days paid leave + 5 days sick leave + national holidays a year[2016-9-13. : 7:52 am] Lanthanide -- often companies that bring this policy in will give you less total days leave, eg if it used to be 10 days vacation + 4 days sick leave, now you only get 12 days flexi-leave instead[2016-9-13. : 7:52 am] Lanthanide -- another thing that's becoming common in the US is flexi-leave, so rather than getting vacation days and sick days, you just get a single lump sum of leave that you can use as either vacation or sick leave[2016-9-13. : 7:51 am] Lanthanide -- white collar workers can usually negotiate more, or if they work for a decent company will get more[2016-9-13. : 7:51 am] Lanthanide -- NudeRaiderNudeRaider shouted: FaRTy1billion It's apparently standard in the US to get just a few days off a year. That seriously would be a deal breaker for me to work in the US. Here it's common to get around 30 days off. Do you never go on holidays? What about Christmas or Easter time? just over the weekend / feast days? Or is it just you have to make a deal with your boss and then can leave, but without pay? many people in the US get no discretionary leave at all. otherwise it's pretty common to get 10 days (2 weeks) paid leave[2016-9-13. : 6:30 am] KrayZee -- Kind of like how conservatives criticize whenever Obama golfs or takes a vacation. Even though Bush had way more vacations.[2016-9-13. : 6:12 am] O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- If you're having fun then you aren't working hard enough!![2016-9-13. : 6:08 am] O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- also the US still holds on to the mentality of less vacation + less breaks + more hours = higher productivity[2016-9-13. : 6:07 am] O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- I think you can take nonpaid leave of absence depending on what your job is[2016-9-13. : 6:07 am] O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- NudeRaiderNudeRaider shouted: FaRTy1billion thats what I mean with making a deal. FaRTy1billion yeah, but that's barely a 2-week vacation. And then you used EVERYTHING just in one spot of the year. And probably doesnt apply to you (but lots of others), but the stress really wears off only at the end of 2 weeks off, so we usually take 3 weeks so we can actually enjoy the 3rd week. It's how it's done here[2016-9-13. : 6:01 am] NudeRaider -- I'd actually accept lower pay, but I wouldn't want any less days off than we currently have.[2016-9-13. : 6:00 am] NudeRaider -- Also no wiggling room if you need single days to get something done, or want to get a long weekend when theres a holiday on tuesday or thursday[2016-9-13. : 5:59 am] NudeRaider -- FaRTy1billionFaRTy1billion shouted: nobody's required to give you any thats what I mean with making a deal. FaRTy1billionFaRTy1billion shouted: My job gives me 10 days off (paid) a year, and then there are a handful of holidays that we also get paid for (and, if we choose, we can take them off or a day that week off) yeah, but that's barely a 2-week vacation. And then you used EVERYTHING just in one spot of the year. And probably doesnt apply to you (but lots of others), but the stress really wears off only at the end of 2 weeks off, so we usually take 3 weeks so we can actually enjoy the 3rd week.[2016-9-13. : 5:39 am] O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- normally places just give you holidays off, but the nature of my job requires people be there even on holidays so it's a little different[2016-9-13. : 5:37 am] O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- like I took last Tuesday off because Monday was a holiday (and got 1.5x pay for working on a holday on Monday )[2016-9-13. : 5:37 am] O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- My job gives me 10 days off (paid) a year, and then there are a handful of holidays that we also get paid for (and, if we choose, we can take them off or a day that week off) |
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