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[2016-11-10. : 10:54 pm]
Moose -- But really, though, it's Yale. They ain't canceling shit if the Democrat wins, let's be real. X^D
[2016-11-10. : 10:54 pm]
Moose -- w/e.
[2016-11-10. : 10:54 pm]
Moose -- I don't know. Maybe I'm a bit better at handling loss.
[2016-11-10. : 10:53 pm]
Lanthanide -- I think it's a bit rivisionist to say no one knew who he was
[2016-11-10. : 10:53 pm]
Lanthanide -- except Sanders won New Hampshire and was only narrowly beaten by Clinton in Iowa
[2016-11-10. : 10:52 pm]
Roy -- The GOP did not have a strong frontrunner, on the other hand.
[2016-11-10. : 10:52 pm]
Roy -- Nobody could close the gap from there.
[2016-11-10. : 10:51 pm]
Roy -- Hillary had a strong lead because nobody knew who else was running for the Democratic nomination until things were well underway. That's really all it was.
[2016-11-10. : 10:51 pm]
Lanthanide -- Trump wasn't a republican either, but obviously he had name recognition
[2016-11-10. : 10:51 pm]
Lanthanide -- so of course people didn't know who he was
[2016-11-10. : 10:51 pm]
Lanthanide -- Bernie wasn't even a democrat until 3 weeks before he threw his hat into the ring
[2016-11-10. : 10:50 pm]
Roy -- Hillary won because she established her name before people knew who Bernie was. He gained a lot more traction in the second half of the primaries, and had they been polled again, it would have been a different result. Follow-up polls confirmed this.
[2016-11-10. : 10:49 pm]
Lanthanide -- sometimes, the people say stupid things
[2016-11-10. : 10:49 pm]
Lanthanide -- just like Trump won his primary
[2016-11-10. : 10:49 pm]
Lanthanide -- Roy
Roy shouted: They should have canceled exams when the DNC fucked over the voice of the people by strategically ruining Bernie Sanders' campaign for a candidate nobody wanted.
Hillary won the popular vote in the primary, so she was the voice of the people
[2016-11-10. : 10:48 pm]
Lanthanide -- and something like 45% of people didn't even vote (a further 7% couldn't vote)
[2016-11-10. : 10:48 pm]
Roy -- I also read that FiveThirtyEight article.
[2016-11-10. : 10:48 pm]
Lanthanide -- so really the country is very close
[2016-11-10. : 10:48 pm]
Lanthanide -- anyway, if Trump had 1% lower vote, and Clinton 1% higher, she would have won with about 305 EC votes
[2016-11-10. : 10:48 pm]
lil-Inferno -- "OOP is fucking retarded. I will bomb the shit out of anyone who uses OOP." -Donald J. Trump
[2016-11-10. : 10:48 pm]
Roy -- They should have canceled exams when the DNC fucked over the voice of the people by strategically ruining Bernie Sanders' campaign for a candidate nobody wanted.
[2016-11-10. : 10:46 pm]
Lanthanide -- the protests that are happening now in the US, aren't that different than what happened in 2008
[2016-11-10. : 10:46 pm]
Lanthanide -- and, I would be saying the same thing if Clinton had won, too
[2016-11-10. : 10:46 pm]
Lanthanide -- if you put this on the level of grief as a pet dying, which I don't think is an unfair comparison, then is it appropriate to give compassionate consideration for exams that are close to the election date
[2016-11-10. : 10:44 pm]
Moose -- Indeed, so I don't think we really disagree.
[2016-11-10. : 10:44 pm]
Lanthanide -- Roy
Roy shouted: Lanthanide He should call it "Don't ask, don't tell".
it's the defence of family values act or some-such bullshit
[2016-11-10. : 10:44 pm]
CecilSunkure -- and judgement calls can be critiqued. That's only fair
[2016-11-10. : 10:43 pm]
Lanthanide -- Mini Moose 2707
Mini Moose 2707 shouted: Btu feeling worse about their pet dying versus their parents?
ah, yeah, I never said that, nor even implied it
[2016-11-10. : 10:43 pm]
CecilSunkure -- Like Moose pointed out the idea of a spectrum, which implies judgement calls on whether or not to issue "compassion"
[2016-11-10. : 10:43 pm]
Roy -- Lanthanide
Lanthanide shouted: you're still allowed to be gay, but if you talk about it, that's bad
He should call it "Don't ask, don't tell".
[2016-11-10. : 10:43 pm]
Moose -- Like, there's probably some outliers who do, but I don't think that's the majority.
[2016-11-10. : 10:43 pm]
Lanthanide -- people fear that it will
[2016-11-10. : 10:43 pm]
CecilSunkure -- I don't think emotional responses to Trump getting elected deserve compassion, for the majority of cases, including the Yale thing
[2016-11-10. : 10:43 pm]
Lanthanide -- nothing seriously bad has actually happened yet
[2016-11-10. : 10:43 pm]
Moose -- Btu feeling worse about their pet dying versus their parents?
[2016-11-10. : 10:43 pm]
Lanthanide -- and probably that's not really a bad analogy for this type of grief
[2016-11-10. : 10:42 pm]
Lanthanide -- I've heard of people getting compassionate consideration for when a pet dies
[2016-11-10. : 10:42 pm]
Lanthanide -- for most, it won't be that bad, but it's still enough to interfere with study and exams
[2016-11-10. : 10:42 pm]
Moose -- "is an emotional loss equivalent to losing a parent" like, this part
[2016-11-10. : 10:41 pm]
Lanthanide -- for some people, it will be like that
[2016-11-10. : 10:41 pm]
Moose -- Conditional on feeling as bad as a parent spouse dying, not on feeling anything.
[2016-11-10. : 10:41 pm]
Lanthanide -- implying they're defective for having those feelings
[2016-11-10. : 10:41 pm]
Moose -- Like, this a spectrum: shouldn't feel shit ----------- me ---------- literally worst thing ever
[2016-11-10. : 10:41 pm]
Lanthanide -- you said "the issue might be you."
[2016-11-10. : 10:41 pm]
Moose -- Lanthanide
Lanthanide shouted: but that doesn't mean their feeling aren't gennuine, or that there's something wrong with them as human beings
I'm not saying their feelings aren't genuine.
[2016-11-10. : 10:40 pm]
Moose -- Lanthanide
Lanthanide shouted: well you're disagreeing with psychology of humans, in that case
Like Holmes and Rahe?
[2016-11-10. : 10:40 pm]
CecilSunkure -- Majority of your world maybe, but not mine
[2016-11-10. : 10:40 pm]
Lanthanide -- well the majority of the world disagrees with you Cecil
[2016-11-10. : 10:39 pm]
Lanthanide -- but that doesn't mean their feeling aren't gennuine, or that there's something wrong with them as human beings
[2016-11-10. : 10:39 pm]
CecilSunkure -- I don't think his comments are racist or bigoted, and think it's silly to say they are
[2016-11-10. : 10:39 pm]
Lanthanide -- are people over-reacting, will Trump be as bad as the fear? probably, and probably not
[2016-11-10. : 10:39 pm]
Lanthanide -- well you're disagreeing with psychology of humans, in that case
[2016-11-10. : 10:39 pm]
Moose -- Well, I disagree but I can't tell people how to feel, so that's that.
[2016-11-10. : 10:37 pm]
Lanthanide -- Trump's racist and biggotted comments are likely to result in the same situation in the US - even if no laws change, many people in public will feel like they can act with impunity
[2016-11-10. : 10:37 pm]
Lanthanide -- also in Russia, the police etc themselves are homophobic, so don't really care about the crimes being committed, which perpetuates the whole situation
[2016-11-10. : 10:36 pm]
Lanthanide -- it's not that different than a family member dying
[2016-11-10. : 10:36 pm]
Lanthanide -- it's called grieving
[2016-11-10. : 10:36 pm]
Lanthanide -- of course, and people are upset at the real prospect that they are going to happen now
[2016-11-10. : 10:35 pm]
Moose -- Lanthanide
Lanthanide shouted: you might think "ok, fine, what's wrong with that?"
No, to be clear, I think all of these are bad things that should not be done.
[2016-11-10. : 10:35 pm]
Lanthanide -- even though being gay is still perfectly legal in Russia
[2016-11-10. : 10:35 pm]
Lanthanide -- bacause a lot of members of public now think they have the right to be homophobic and attack people who are gay
[2016-11-10. : 10:35 pm]
Lanthanide -- except that hate crimes in Russia have risen hugely as a result of that policy change
[2016-11-10. : 10:35 pm]
Lanthanide -- you might think "ok, fine, what's wrong with that?"
[2016-11-10. : 10:34 pm]
Lanthanide -- they want to protect family values
[2016-11-10. : 10:34 pm]
Lanthanide -- you're still allowed to be gay, but if you talk about it, that's bad
[2016-11-10. : 10:34 pm]
Lanthanide -- in Russia, Putin passed laws outlawing "homosexual propaganda"
[2016-11-10. : 10:34 pm]
Lanthanide -- also, the tenor of the political leadership in the country, affects how people behave on a day to day basis
[2016-11-10. : 10:34 pm]
Lanthanide -- for a lot of people, those are very important rights that they are now facing losing
[2016-11-10. : 10:33 pm]
Lanthanide -- and since he's going to likely have 2-3 supreme court noms, there's a very good chance he will succeed
[2016-11-10. : 10:33 pm]
Lanthanide -- Trump has said he'll try and repeal marriage equality, and get Woe v Wade appealed

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