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[2016-12-05. : 4:12 am]  jjf28 -- though with game programming I suppose I can see wanting those little optimizations everywhere[2016-12-05. : 4:12 am] jjf28 -- conventional wisdom has far less time-spent developing and debugging  [2016-12-05. : 4:08 am] CecilSunkure -- Another link you might like jjf: http://www.codercorner.com/blog/?p=1202[2016-12-05. : 4:03 am] CecilSunkure -- Premature optimization is the root of all evil, is the root of all evil C|X^DDD[2016-12-05. : 4:01 am] jjf28 -- mm, there are tons of limits to compilers; still gotta avoid that premature optimization[2016-12-05. : 3:58 am] CecilSunkure -- jjf you might find this interesting: http://www.codersnotes.com/notes/beating-the-compiler/[2016-12-05. : 3:56 am] CecilSunkure -- gotta optimize shitty php consumption, only serve the shoutbox to users. Forums written in OOP[2016-12-05. : 3:53 am]  Moose -- CecilSunkureCecilSunkure shouted: its ok just blame it on OOP He had an OOPsie LMAO [2016-12-05. : 3:53 am] Moose -- jjf28jjf28 shouted: CecilSunkure was bound to happen to me one of these times  [2016-12-05. : 3:52 am] jjf28 -- CecilSunkureCecilSunkure shouted: Ok, wikipedia definition means you were wrong then. was bound to happen to me one of these times [2016-12-05. : 3:52 am] Moose -- I mean, I can look at the binaries on my system and see the bits and bytes that make up the file.[2016-12-05. : 3:51 am] jjf28 -- Machine Code: "a computer programming language consisting of binary or hexadecimal instructions that a computer can respond to directly."[2016-12-05. : 3:51 am] CecilSunkure -- Yeah I think it is, since people wrote shit with machine language back in the day[2016-12-05. : 3:49 am] jjf28 -- kind-of... you can write programs in it... but then again I can write programs in SC unit properties so w/e[2016-12-05. : 3:48 am] jjf28 -- ok I suppose programming languages have to be formalized, I withdraw the point[2016-12-05. : 3:46 am] CecilSunkure -- jjf28jjf28 shouted: however, by that definition I also must class a compiled C executable as a program that's doing compilation, so long as it has any input that can alter its execution path that input is usually not a programming language though.[2016-12-05. : 3:46 am] lil-Inferno -- Mini Moose 2707Mini Moose 2707 shouted: Wikipedia is SJW liberal bullshit tho. C|X^ DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD[2016-12-05. : 3:46 am] jjf28 -- however, by that definition I also must class a compiled C executable as a program that's doing compilation, so long as it has any input that can alter its execution path[2016-12-05. : 3:44 am] jjf28 -- CecilSunkureCecilSunkure shouted: Here's another one: A compiler is a special program that processes statements written in a particular programming language and turns them into machine language or "code" that a computer's processor uses. using that definition I accept your argument[2016-12-05. : 3:44 am] Moose -- lil-Infernolil-Inferno shouted: CecilSunkure Cuz I knew that no matter what I said you could just say "y", and how can we even prove it LMAO Post your tax returns, fam[2016-12-05. : 3:43 am] CecilSunkure -- lil-Infernolil-Inferno shouted: CecilSunkure Cuz I knew that no matter what I said you could just say "y", and how can we even prove it LMAO I would say n if u made more[2016-12-05. : 3:43 am] lil-Inferno -- CecilSunkureCecilSunkure shouted: lil-Inferno get out. you brought up your stack superiority and failed to back it up Cuz I knew that no matter what I said you could just say "y", and how can we even prove it LMAO[2016-12-05. : 3:43 am] CecilSunkure -- It just says "turns", like translate, transform, one format to another, COMPILER[2016-12-05. : 3:42 am] CecilSunkure -- Notice how it doesn't say CREATE NEW MACHINE INSTRUCTIONS AT THAT VERY MOMENT[2016-12-05. : 3:41 am] CecilSunkure -- Here's another one: A compiler is a special program that processes statements written in a particular programming language and turns them into machine language or "code" that a computer's processor uses.[2016-12-05. : 3:40 am] jjf28 -- existing instructions are fed, these are not created, therefore no new code was created[2016-12-05. : 3:40 am] CecilSunkure -- lil-Infernolil-Inferno shouted: worrying about performance in 2016 get out. you brought up your stack superiority and failed to back it up[2016-12-05. : 3:39 am] jjf28 -- by that definition pure assembly code changing a register is compiling[2016-12-05. : 3:39 am] CecilSunkure -- Bytecode in, a translation occurs (compilation), and instructions are fed to the CPU[2016-12-05. : 3:37 am] CecilSunkure -- Doesn't matter if the output was already laid it in a nice "table" and we just look into it to pull out the correct pieces at the correct time. That's still a transformation of one kind of code to another[2016-12-05. : 3:36 am] CecilSunkure -- If the input is different from the output, then there's a change of one type of code to another[2016-12-05. : 3:36 am] CecilSunkure -- jjf28jjf28 shouted: there's no compilation step during the lifecycle of a program if all of the machine code existed beforehand That's not true[2016-12-05. : 3:35 am] jjf28 -- there's no compilation step during the lifecycle of a program if all of the machine code existed beforehand[2016-12-05. : 3:34 am] jjf28 -- it's not machine code out, it's feeding existing machine code (code that existed before the program ran) in[2016-12-05. : 3:34 am] CecilSunkure -- Bytecode in, machine code out. Compiler. There's no arguing against it |
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