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[2016-12-16. : 11:49 am]  ShadowFlare -- They are definitely routers (like normally $150 - $180 routers at the time) and meant to be used as such. By enabling wireless access point or wireless bridge mode, I was disabling a large portion of their feature set.[2016-12-16. : 11:39 am] jjf28 -- EchoEcho shouted: Anyone remembers that website that has a huge zip of UMS maps? http://www.staredit.net/topic/3375/[2016-12-16. : 7:43 am] ShadowFlare -- And another mode to seamlessly bridge with the wireless network hosted by another one, for the purpose of connecting devices by ethernet to the wireless network.[2016-12-16. : 7:41 am] ShadowFlare -- Technically routers, but this model has an access point-only mode that completely disables the router functions.[2016-12-16. : 7:36 am] ShadowFlare -- A local Walmart store had them on clearance for near 1/3 their normal price a year and a half ago and I bought 3.  [2016-12-16. : 7:33 am] ShadowFlare -- The devices hosting and connecting to the wireless are both 3-stream (1.3 Gbps) 802.11ac access points in this case, with a built-in 4 or 5 point gigabit switch.[2016-12-16. : 7:30 am] ShadowFlare -- The connection was more reliable that way anyway, and I could put it closer to get a better signal than I could have with a card in the computer.[2016-12-16. : 7:27 am] ShadowFlare -- Essentially the computer doesn't know it is on wireless because it is plugged into it by a cable into another device.  [2016-12-16. : 7:25 am]  Lanthanide -- " (by using a wireless bridge to wire them into the wireless)" I think you don't know what the word "wire" means[2016-12-16. : 7:07 am] ShadowFlare -- I used to have that setup, but things have been moved and I don't need to do that anymore.[2016-12-16. : 7:06 am] ShadowFlare -- My home computers would be wired even if they were connecting through wireless, actually. (by using a wireless bridge to wire them into the wireless)[2016-12-16. : 7:04 am] ShadowFlare -- My computers are wired, so I can't do that, but I have pro edition, so I have a better option anyway.[2016-12-16. : 6:35 am] ShadowFlare -- CorboCorbo shouted: ShadowFlare ShadowFlare a workaround to this is setting the connection to metered. It will.never download updates that way Even if you do that, it will still download/install updates it considers important enough, though I don't know how often that happens. Also not an option for a wired network connection.[2016-12-16. : 6:13 am]  O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- Fire_KameFire_Kame shouted: Rogue One 10/10 apparently my friend's girlfriend's family rented out a movie theater to see it and has extra tickets, but they're going half an hour before I get off work D:[2016-12-16. : 5:22 am] Corbo -- ShadowFlareShadowFlare shouted: Since I have it set to only download updates and tell me they are ready to install, they don't get installed until I tell it to, so no auto-reboots unless I install the updates and leave it without rebooting. ShadowFlareShadowFlare shouted: But Microsoft made that a Pro-only feature for some reason (which you need to enable through the group policy editor or the registry, and the registry setting doesn't even work for Home). a workaround to this is setting the connection to metered. It will.never download updates that way[2016-12-16. : 4:15 am] ShadowFlare -- Can't find anything other than the official statements, which don't specify if it will run, only that they won't be supported (and won't have drivers for at least some things).[2016-12-16. : 3:55 am] ShadowFlare -- But I don't know if what Microsoft has said about supporting newer CPUs means they just won't provide support on computers using them or if Win7 won't even run.[2016-12-16. : 3:52 am] ShadowFlare -- Which may not be legal, but is probably undetectable once completed, since afterward Win10 will auto-activate on its own on that hardware even with a clean install.[2016-12-16. : 3:50 am] ShadowFlare -- Considering that newer computers probably can't even run Windows 7 in legacy/bios mode (which is required for that OEM preactivation mode), there is a loophole they won't really need to close with upgrading Win7 installations that use that activation method, which people have been using to get Win10 permanently activated for free by simulating the requirements for that activation mode in Win7 before upgrading.[2016-12-16. : 3:42 am] jjf28 -- Mini Moose 2707Mini Moose 2707 shouted: If their plan is to eventually discontinue support for older versions, I'd imagine they'd keep free upgrades available until they drop support. that's the month-before surprise  [2016-12-16. : 3:37 am] ShadowFlare -- And that one doesn't involve having an activate-able Windows 7 key.[2016-12-16. : 3:35 am] ShadowFlare -- Even upgrading an OEM preinstalled/preactivated copy of Windows 7 and having Windows 10 be activated after the upgrade.[2016-12-16. : 3:33 am] ShadowFlare -- The only thing they changed after the free upgrade period "ended" was removing it from Windows Update. Every other way of upgrading still works and still activates as before.[2016-12-16. : 3:24 am] Moose -- If their plan is to eventually discontinue support for older versions, I'd imagine they'd keep free upgrades available until they drop support.[2016-12-16. : 3:22 am] Moose -- I'm not too worried, I don't need anyone's approval to use or upgrade my OS. C|X^D[2016-12-16. : 3:22 am] lil-Inferno -- Mini Moose 2707Mini Moose 2707 shouted: Mini Moose 2707 Yes, I know, not specifically for that. I'm not being literal. Calm down, SEN. fuk u[2016-12-16. : 3:19 am] ShadowFlare -- I wonder if/when Microsoft will stop allowing free upgrades to Windows 10 or clean installs of it with 7/8/8.1 keys that have never been used for Windows 10?[2016-12-16. : 3:17 am] Moose -- Mini Moose 2707Mini Moose 2707 shouted: And to think people actually paid money for the privilege of not being able to configure automatic updates C|X^DDDDDDDDD Yes, I know, not specifically for that. I'm not being literal. Calm down, SEN.[2016-12-16. : 3:15 am] Moose -- And to think people actually paid money for the privilege of not being able to configure automatic updates C|X^DDDDDDDDD[2016-12-16. : 3:10 am] ShadowFlare -- I have a couple Vista Home Premium keys that I'm never using again.[2016-12-16. : 3:08 am] ShadowFlare -- While that doesn't affect me, since I don't have anything but Pro editions of Windows, it does affect many others.[2016-12-16. : 3:07 am] ShadowFlare -- And of course making the Windows Update options available on Home edition.[2016-12-16. : 3:07 am] ShadowFlare -- I mean, I still hope they bring back some of the options previous Windows versions had, like making driver updates through Windows Update optional.[2016-12-16. : 3:04 am] ShadowFlare -- btw, having Windows tell you when updates are available to install actually works much better in Win10 than it did in 8/8.1, because it will actually tell you there are updates (they kind of messed that up in Win8/8.1).[2016-12-16. : 3:03 am] Moose -- And here I am using an OS that asks me about installing updates and doesn't automatically reboot by default. C|X^D[2016-12-16. : 3:02 am] ShadowFlare -- Mini Moose 2707Mini Moose 2707 shouted: Windows 7 end of life gonna be the next XP LMAO The worst part is the computers that can't even run anything newer than Win7 because the CPU doesn't support 8 or higher.[2016-12-16. : 3:01 am] ShadowFlare -- But Microsoft made that a Pro-only feature for some reason (which you need to enable through the group policy editor or the registry, and the registry setting doesn't even work for Home).[2016-12-16. : 2:57 am] ShadowFlare -- Since I have it set to only download updates and tell me they are ready to install, they don't get installed until I tell it to, so no auto-reboots unless I install the updates and leave it without rebooting.[2016-12-16. : 2:55 am] ShadowFlare -- Well, maybe not while using it, but it will eventually reboot on its own while you aren't using it if an update that requires a reboot has been installed.[2016-12-16. : 2:55 am] Dem0n -- I have literally never, ever had a forced reboot on W10. I really don't know what the fuck you guys are talking about.[2016-12-16. : 2:54 am] ShadowFlare -- And you can do some resizing without undocking, which will affect the sizes of windows that are docked afterward.[2016-12-16. : 2:51 am] ShadowFlare -- Which in 10 also means forced reboots eventually after updating.[2016-12-16. : 2:51 am] ShadowFlare -- jjf28jjf28 shouted: OH GAWD DO NOT DO IT, STAY WINDOWS 7! Why? I've got Pro, which lets me negate one of the biggest issues I had with Windows 10 (forced installation of Windows updates).[2016-12-16. : 2:49 am] ShadowFlare -- The one I mentioned, the i5-2400, is probably the most common one you will see around that price, which is a 3.1 GHz quad core, and many have 4 RAM slots (DDR3), full-size drives, and would require a low-profile bracket for the video card (ones in the price range you mentioned probably come with those often).[2016-12-16. : 2:49 am] jjf28 -- ShadowFlareShadowFlare shouted: You can still upgrade (or clean install) that to Windows 10 for free if you want. Just need a Windows 10 iso. DON'T DO IT[2016-12-16. : 2:41 am] ShadowFlare -- Look for one that the processor model number is in the thousands, and the model generation is the left-most digit (for example, i5-2400 is a 2nd-gen i5).[2016-12-16. : 2:36 am] ShadowFlare -- You can still upgrade (or clean install) that to Windows 10 for free if you want. Just need a Windows 10 iso.[2016-12-16. : 2:29 am] ShadowFlare -- quad core and have turbo boost to automatically raise the clock speed a little higher when needed[2016-12-16. : 2:28 am] ShadowFlare -- Farty: Saw your messages yesterday. There are some used or refurb computers with 2nd or 3rd generation i5 at least 3.1 GHz, at least 4 GB RAM, hard drive, and Win7 Pro for around $100 on eBay.[2016-12-16. : 2:11 am] KrayZee -- Mini Moose 2707Mini Moose 2707 shouted: I'll build a firewall and make the shitty memers pay for it More like Build a firewall and make the virus pay for it |
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