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[2016-12-16. : 2:12 pm]
Dem0n -- Give em a little spin before turning on your computer
[2016-12-16. : 2:10 pm]
TF- -- the fans on my case have stopped spinning completely and the only reason I can get away with it is that it's winter
[2016-12-16. : 1:49 pm]
The donwano -- But that's all piddly to the BSOD you get. What do you do for work if I may ask?
[2016-12-16. : 1:45 pm]
The donwano -- Pollen. The cotton wood trees burst open in the spring & I get swarmed by the fuzzies as it looks like snow flying through the air.
[2016-12-16. : 1:45 pm]
IskatuMesk -- trees are terrible for dust too
[2016-12-16. : 1:44 pm]
The donwano -- My boss yells at me all the time that I'm not keeping the computers dust free. I work in a semi-trailer that was converted to a blacktop & gravel laboratory. Anything I do with my work produces dust.
[2016-12-16. : 1:43 pm]
IskatuMesk -- yeah, the sound card control panel
[2016-12-16. : 1:43 pm]
IskatuMesk -- I've also had two video cards fail due to summer heat so the rest of it can't be in good shape
[2016-12-16. : 1:43 pm]
The donwano -- You leave control panel open and it happens? WTH
[2016-12-16. : 1:42 pm]
IskatuMesk -- if I plug headphones or a mic into my soundcard, or leave the control panel open for a while and then shut it down, I BSOD
[2016-12-16. : 1:38 pm]
The donwano -- At my job I have this USB drive they gave me & every time I pull it out of USB port the plastic casing pulls off & the SD chip inside falls out.
[2016-12-16. : 1:36 pm]
IskatuMesk -- I do extremely demanding work on it, so the slowness of everything is extremely prohibitive
[2016-12-16. : 1:34 pm]
IskatuMesk -- my computer is now going on 8 years old. Not out of choice, though. I was using hardware 14 years old until somewhat recently
[2016-12-16. : 1:00 pm]
NudeRaider -- In other news I'm currently enjoying my Lauenstein truffle pralinés I got at the christmas party yesterday. I haven't easten something this delicious and well made in a looong time, if ever. WOW.
[2016-12-16. : 12:59 pm]
NudeRaider -- cya :)
[2016-12-16. : 12:59 pm]
ShadowFlare -- Well, time for me to go for now.
[2016-12-16. : 12:58 pm]
NudeRaider -- *negligible - wow one of the few world I will ALWAYS stumble over.
[2016-12-16. : 12:55 pm]
NudeRaider -- true. Instinctively I find it hard to believe that more than a neglibile number of people use computers that are over 10 years, but I must admit, that computers can be pretty enduring sometimes and that especially people with little demands or tech knowledge are probably gonna hold on to it until it actually breaks.
[2016-12-16. : 12:53 pm]
ShadowFlare -- Which would probably include at least some of Intel's latest CPUs before their Core architecture, if they could run it.
[2016-12-16. : 12:52 pm]
ShadowFlare -- Just about anything that can run Windows 10 can still be somewhat relevant if it can at least have 4 GB of RAM.
[2016-12-16. : 12:47 pm]
ShadowFlare -- At least for CPUs that support it.
[2016-12-16. : 12:47 pm]
ShadowFlare -- It's one of the features that helps prevent bugs from being exploitable (and has been supported since XP SP2).
[2016-12-16. : 12:46 pm]
NudeRaider -- Sounds like a decent reason for oppression for a change. :lol:
[2016-12-16. : 12:44 pm]
ShadowFlare -- Like the feature to mark memory pages as non-executable and enforce it at the CPU level so it won't run code from that memory.
[2016-12-16. : 12:43 pm]
ShadowFlare -- In the name of security they made certain CPU features be required.
[2016-12-16. : 12:42 pm]
ShadowFlare -- This is relevant even for 32-bit Windows 10 (or 8/8.1).
[2016-12-16. : 12:41 pm]
ShadowFlare -- For AMD, I think pretty much any of their 64-bit chips can run it.
[2016-12-16. : 12:41 pm]
ShadowFlare -- Even if fast enough.
[2016-12-16. : 12:40 pm]
ShadowFlare -- Pretty much anything before Intel's Core architecture can't run 10, I think.
[2016-12-16. : 12:40 pm]
NudeRaider -- k. But any i3/5/7 works with it and I doubt older CPUs will stay relevant for much longer after Win 7 support ends.
[2016-12-16. : 12:39 pm]
ShadowFlare -- More of a problem on the Intel side than AMD.
[2016-12-16. : 12:39 pm]
ShadowFlare -- *features
[2016-12-16. : 12:38 pm]
ShadowFlare -- Nope, there are key CPU feature 8 and higher require (actually, each one keeps adding a little more to the requirements).
[2016-12-16. : 12:37 pm]
NudeRaider -- afaik whatever runs 7 can run 10. Do correct me if I'm wrong tho.
[2016-12-16. : 12:37 pm]
ShadowFlare -- If MS doesn't support a new CPU on an older OS, it still has an upgrade path if it works on the latest version.
[2016-12-16. : 12:36 pm]
ShadowFlare -- NudeRaider
NudeRaider shouted: ShadowFlare its the other way around. The CPUs run pretty much any OS today. But MS will soon cancel the support for it on Win 7.
No, what I mentioned is relevant to what Moose said about Windows 7's eventual end of support, because the computers that don't have the CPU features required by Win8 and later have no upgrade path and will be stuck with Win7 and no support (assuming they are still on Windows).
[2016-12-16. : 12:34 pm]
NudeRaider -- SF I commend you to still hold on to your classyness you already had when it was a given on SEN. Pretty much anyone (including me) has fallen from grace in that regard.
[2016-12-16. : 12:28 pm]
ShadowFlare -- Yeah, this was 2008.
[2016-12-16. : 12:28 pm]
Moose -- Yeah. PfSense wasn't even one I considered, but you were probably looking at things long before I was.
[2016-12-16. : 12:27 pm]
ShadowFlare -- OpenWrt's UI was kind of bad at the time, but they've made it much better in recent years and I may switch to it someday.
[2016-12-16. : 12:26 pm]
NudeRaider -- ShadowFlare
ShadowFlare shouted: Mini Moose 2707 The worst part is the computers that can't even run anything newer than Win7 because the CPU doesn't support 8 or higher.
its the other way around. The CPUs run pretty much any OS today. But MS will soon cancel the support for it on Win 7.
[2016-12-16. : 12:26 pm]
Corbo -- *dies*
[2016-12-16. : 12:26 pm]
Corbo -- I said not per se dammit i made a mistake forgive my lifeeeee
[2016-12-16. : 12:25 pm]
Dem0n -- DAMN YO ITS COLD AF
[2016-12-16. : 12:25 pm]
Moose -- Corbo > WHAT'S FALSE: "Make Germany Great Again" was not a (campaign) slogan employed by Hitler > ok > Donald Trump and Adolf Hitler are far from the only politicians who promised to make their countries "great again." > not a thing I argued against because no shit
[2016-12-16. : 12:25 pm]
NudeRaider -- Mini Moose 2707
Mini Moose 2707 shouted: Well, ya, I just take Nude's minerals LMAO
not a shitty memer, sry :)
[2016-12-16. : 12:25 pm]
ShadowFlare -- Mini Moose 2707
Mini Moose 2707 shouted: ddwrt? openwrt? O_O
PfSense because at the time I started using it, it had probably one of the better UIs for an open source router.
[2016-12-16. : 12:24 pm]
Corbo -- mahen Deutschland wieder groß!
[2016-12-16. : 12:24 pm]
NudeRaider -- Dem0n
Dem0n shouted: I have literally never, ever had a forced reboot on W10. I really don't know what the fuck you guys are talking about.
then you should not only read the beginning of an argument, but also its resolution. I researched and shouted in great detail what the conditions for automatic restarts are.
[2016-12-16. : 12:24 pm]
Moose -- Well, ya, I just take Nude's minerals LMAO
[2016-12-16. : 12:23 pm]
Corbo -- Mini Moose 2707
Mini Moose 2707 shouted: And why would he want to make America great again if he's in Germany? And use an English motto? LMAO
well, not per se...
[2016-12-16. : 12:23 pm]
jjf28 -- :nude:
[2016-12-16. : 12:23 pm]
jjf28 -- you forgot the part where he somehow makes them pay for it :nude;
[2016-12-16. : 12:20 pm]
NudeRaider -- Mini Moose 2707
Mini Moose 2707 shouted: I'll build a firewall and make the shitty memers pay for it
since we have a lot of those around here, funding is already guaranteed. nice!
[2016-12-16. : 12:20 pm]
Moose -- And why would he want to make America great again if he's in Germany? And use an English motto? LMAO
[2016-12-16. : 12:19 pm]
ShadowFlare -- I'm not saying I like the update system in Windows 10 - the update system was better in a way in Vista throught 8.1 (at least until they broke it and made it horribly slow sometime later 2014 and still haven't pushed the fix through Windows Update or made it available for Vista or Server 2012 non-R2) and the settings weren't hidden.
[2016-12-16. : 12:18 pm]
Corbo -- Pretty popular line IMO. LMAO
[2016-12-16. : 12:18 pm]
Moose -- Source?
[2016-12-16. : 12:18 pm]
Corbo -- So what?
[2016-12-16. : 12:17 pm]
Corbo -- Hitler also used the same motto for germany
[2016-12-16. : 12:16 pm]
Moose -- https://i.imgur.com/obieZMh.jpg O___________________________________O
[2016-12-16. : 12:15 pm]
jjf28 -- Mini Moose 2707
Mini Moose 2707 shouted: I just change the settings in my software updater. They aren't hidden and I don't need a special version of my OS for them to be unlocked. I'm actually surprised that this is an abnormal state. LMAO
how särˈdänik
[2016-12-16. : 12:15 pm]
Corbo -- Mini Moose 2707
Mini Moose 2707 shouted: I just change the settings in my software updater. They aren't hidden and I don't need a special version of my OS for them to be unlocked. I'm actually surprised that this is an abnormal state. LMAO
TBH I am surprised too. Everything microsoft does now has forced automatic updates that you cannot disable. Even office pesters you with forced automatic updates
[2016-12-16. : 12:13 pm]
Corbo -- Tbh I only found this out because w10 messed up my laptop. I am also mad at w10 and would definitely advice against it. Turns out it was incompatible with my graphics card and its switchable technology or whatever. So it just blue screen of deaths if it detects it. I had to disable my video card entirely on the bios. But I did not figure this out until like the 17th install.
[2016-12-16. : 12:11 pm]
Moose -- I just change the settings in my software updater. They aren't hidden and I don't need a special version of my OS for them to be unlocked. I'm actually surprised that this is an abnormal state. LMAO
[2016-12-16. : 12:08 pm]
Corbo -- ShadowFlare
ShadowFlare shouted: Corbo Even if you do that, it will still download/install updates it considers important enough, though I don't know how often that happens. Also not an option for a wired network connection.
you can with wired computers. But it also requires some registry edits.
[2016-12-16. : 12:06 pm]
Moose -- ddwrt? openwrt? O_O
[2016-12-16. : 11:55 am]
ShadowFlare -- It's an open source router running on a small low-power computer I bought specifically for that purpose.
[2016-12-16. : 11:52 am]
ShadowFlare -- But I've already got an advanced router, so I don't need those features.

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