I tried it a few times and it was pretty effective. The major issue is that her Shunpo (the teleport attack) sucks ass without AP. Plus AFAIK, her ult gets a higher bonus from AP than AD.

EDIT:
Nevermind, she gets more AD for her Ult. Maybe I should do that more often.

For I am Rammus, you see.

I too have only one hero. Bought Kayle as my first one a while ago, but the game decided to fuck up after an update and I didn't bother installing it again then. Reinstalled it yesterday and are probably ready to play again now

Damn, you were right Echo.

WOOT! First topic of mine to be stickied! Prolly the last too!

Anyways, what was Echo right about?

Been having fun with Sona. She can really turn a losing team into a winning team, kind of like Galio. I also think it's really funny when I have some 600 AP and a Shaco tries to 1v1 me, only to get killed.

I hope I wasn't too bad in our games guys. For I am...

This was the last game we played. 25 assists = win.

You had to post my shit game, not the one before?

...dick!

1-7 isn't that bad. Me and DevliN look better in this one anyways. Anyways, opinion on Veigar, might pick him up because I need to learn how to play a mage. Would AP or cooldown runes be better long term?

http://www.mobafire.com/league-of-legends/browse?sort_type=score_weighted

I use this site for all my "research" on heroes. This is the highest rated Veigar build. It also includes runes and masteries that you should aim for.

EDIT:
Also, 1/7 isn't bad considering you had to take on that TF so early and then kept getting jumped in 3v1 or 4v1 battles.

Post has been edited 1 time(s), last time on Oct 3 2010, 9:17 pm by DevliN.

Quote from Neki

1-7 isn't that bad. Me and DevliN look better in this one anyways. Anyways, opinion on Veigar, might pick him up because I need to learn how to play a mage. Would AP or cooldown runes be better long term?

Depends. Some heroes either scale horribly or don't even use AP. Veigar should get the hellfire or whatever, which has 15% cd redux anyways, and you can always get more in-game, but it's your opinion. cd redux on him will suck ass early game though, as you should spam Q to get AP up. Which reminds me that he doesn't need AP runes because once you get to 600+, 20 or so less won't matter if you're losing, and if you're winning who gives a crap?

We had some good games today. Me and echo had an epic last game. Him malz, me singed. It was pretty even team match up, thats why I thought it was epic. Same amount of kills for each side, but they had a little more push on us. They pushed into our base, but we thwarted them and pushed back, they got baron, but we killed them all and pushed their base and won.

I took 740000 damage as singed and dealt out 177000 magic damage. It twas epic. Ended 10/7/21

And the rest of the games with norm, neki, and devlin the opponents didn't even have a chance.

Apparently Raccoon is vehemently against Veigar and has been convincing me all day not to buy him.

I've seen some shitty Veigars and I've seen Artanis as Veigar, so I'm on the fence. If you can play like Artanis and kill people in 2 hits, then go for it.

he is just so un-unique (ique?). All he is is nuke spam. Doesn't take much skill, and gets very boring to play after a while. If you play with pubs a lot, you can get easily frusturated beacuse while you are getting tons of kills, your allies may suck and even with your kills, you can't carry your team.

What is so fun about placing your stun then hitting: Q, left mouse click, W, left mouse click, R left mouse click. Then running away during CD and repeat steps 1-all of them.

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I've seen some shitty Veigars and I've seen Artanis as Veigar, so I'm on the fence. If you can play like Artanis and kill people in 2 hits, then go for it.

I got him as my second character and it takes me about 3 to kill a fed 4k hp Cho' Gath.

Essentially, use him when he's free and if you rape, then buy.

Well he was free last week so I doubt he was going to be free this week. Went 11/9/25 as Fiddlesticks, not a big fan of his gameplay. All I boil down to is stacking AP, and then Crowstorming into the middle of them, and silencing and then dying. That's how 90% of our team battles went.

Fiddle is a very good jungler. And viegar has the same strategy for every battle, too. So....