sence this is a map making question, and sence not everyone in staredit.net are map maker's or else I would have put this in Null or garabage or something

but how do you zoom out on x-tra editor, or scmdraft or starforge so you can see your whole map? for screen shots : )

You can't zoom in or out in X-tra, but there is a zoom in/zoom out function at the top in Scmdraft

For more detailed screenshots, go to File>Save Image in SCM Draft 2, that gives a full map picture, from there you can pull out any piece of the map you want in high detail!

thank you guys for your help vary much appreciated.

For screenshots, just use the "save as picture" feature in SCMdraft, it makes a perfect picture of your entire map. It's great and I always used it for my completed maps.