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Shared Control...?
May 12 2008, 1:49 am
By: LosTZealoT  

May 12 2008, 1:49 am LosTZealoT Post #1



A while ago, I was thinking that the Shared Unit Control in WarCraft 3 would be an awesome feature in StarCraft. If your unfamiliar with Shared Unit Control, basicly it allows a player to go into the "Allies" menu and check a box allowing the other player to control all your units and building at the same time as you. This is usually used in Maze maps(equal to Bounds in StarCraft).

Im curious if anyone has any ideas on this, the only thing I could think of would be switching between the players very quickly, however, Im not sure whether or not you'd have time to input commands. And Im pretty sure once you give, any units that were training or upgrades upgrading are removed. Any thoughts?



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May 12 2008, 1:52 am Demented Shaman Post #2



Only in Team Melee.



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May 12 2008, 3:45 am Falkoner Post #3



Switching between players would not work, as units are deselected, sorry, but I really see no way of doing this.

EDIT:
Actually... I just had a thought. What if you stack units, and then if one unit moves you move the other unit on top of it, that way each player owns a unit, I know it wouldn't work too well, but it's about as close as you can get other than Team Melee..



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May 12 2008, 11:05 am Wormer Post #4



Probably with single units this could be done using EUDs to detect if the player selected the unit and give it to that player. However I'm not quite sure if this could be done because I'm unfamiliar with EUDs.



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May 12 2008, 3:45 pm Heimdal Post #5



If we had EUD actions, I bet you could do it.



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May 12 2008, 5:05 pm Clokr_ Post #6



Without EUD actions it's impossible for two players to control the same unit simultaneously in a UMS map. All you could do is add a beacon or something to transfer ownership from one player to another when desired...



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May 12 2008, 6:11 pm Wormer Post #7



Why can't one use EUD select detection (instead of the beacon for example) to transfer the unit from one player to another?



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May 12 2008, 6:58 pm Demented Shaman Post #8



Unless you only had one of that unit type or a location following that one unit around you wouldn't know where the unit is to be given.



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May 12 2008, 7:02 pm Wormer Post #9



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Probably with single units this could be done using EUDs...
Yea, I mean singe units.



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NudeRaider -- EUD actions, specifically. The conditions remained. Today we can even have actions again, but they're all virtualized/whitelisted (not sure on the actual technical implementation) so you can only use them for specific intended purposed, not arbitrary code injections.
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NudeRaider -- I mean yes, maps - through EUDs - were theoretically able to do that as well, but that was patched quickly.
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not the map, the editor
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Symmetry -- I vaguely remember Voy doing some ACE back in the day, but I had no idea EUDs could do that kind of shit. I am very much catching up on the technology
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Symmetry -- Ohhh imagine a SC map that could delete itself
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Symmetry shouted: NudeRaider Is EUD editor capable of writing shit onto the player's harddrive? That seems like it would be dangerous
yeah an editor that isn't allowed to write files sounds rather pointless, so I'd assume it can. Like most other programs too btw. and yes, obviously that's dangerous, but also kinda necessary. MS introduced that virtualization for exactly that reason.
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Is EUD editor capable of writing shit onto the player's harddrive? That seems like it would be dangerous
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