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[2017-5-16. : 12:35 am]  Vrael -- wow communist mods always cracking down on the community, never letting us have our fun or our free sp*censored*[2017-5-16. : 12:34 am]  Moose -- It was never in the ToS, apparently not in the rules anymore. I may have removed it out of frustration since nobody was enforcing that part, but I only remember talking about that a bunch and not doing it. LMAO[2017-5-16. : 12:33 am] Vrael -- DID YOU TAKE THE 'FUCK U ITS MOD NIGHT' LOOPHOLE OUT OF THE ToS AND RULES?[2017-5-16. : 12:32 am] Voyager7456 -- ihjelihjel shouted: Voyager7456 Wasn't it allegedly about ISIS? Sharing certain information about ISIS with Russia could help defeat them. Randomly blurting out secrets will not, especially if that costs us intelligence sources as a result.[2017-5-16. : 12:27 am] Vrael -- ihjelihjel shouted: Vrael Lol when was the last Mod Night even? beats me, but 'fuk u its mod night' is a loophole in the SEN ToS that allows you to say 'fuk u' to another member in the shoutbox[2017-5-16. : 12:26 am] ihjel -- Voyager7456Voyager7456 shouted: ihjel What makes you think this disclosure will "help defeat ISIS?" Wasn't it allegedly about ISIS?[2017-5-16. : 12:25 am] Voyager7456 -- It wasn't an intentional release during a joint planning session on anti-terrorism efforts. It was a slip up during a photo op.[2017-5-16. : 12:24 am] Voyager7456 -- ihjelihjel shouted: Broflamingo Nice deflection. I don't need to define common terms as opposed to a vague term as "hacking an election". Voyager7456 Exactly. Trump sharing some information he in violation of terms may harm relations with some countries but also better them with others and help defeat ISIS. It's always a cost/benefit weigting.. What makes you think this disclosure will "help defeat ISIS?"[2017-5-16. : 12:23 am] ihjel -- BroflamingoBroflamingo shouted: ihjel In fact define nice guys and abusive dumbasses for me Nice deflection. I don't need to define common terms as opposed to a vague term as "hacking an election". Voyager7456 Voyager7456 shouted: ihjel It's not like the options are full cooperation or break alliance. Exactly. Trump sharing some information he in violation of terms may harm relations with some countries but also better them with others and help defeat ISIS. It's always a cost/benefit weigting..[2017-5-16. : 12:21 am] Voyager7456 -- But the next time there's some valuable information, countries will have to weigh the benefits of sharing it with us versus the probability that we burn their source or pass it along to their enemy.[2017-5-16. : 12:20 am] Voyager7456 -- ihjelihjel shouted: Voyager7456 Voyager7456 US have always been abusive dumbasses, People don't ally you because you're nice guys but because you're a superpower. It's not like the options are full cooperation or break alliance.[2017-5-16. : 12:13 am] Broflamingo -- ihjelihjel shouted: Voyager7456 Voyager7456 US have always been abusive dumbasses, People don't ally you because you're nice guys but because you're a superpower. In fact define nice guys and abusive dumbasses for me [2017-5-16. : 12:12 am] Broflamingo -- ihjelihjel shouted: Voyager7456 Voyager7456 US have always been abusive dumbasses, People don't ally you because you're nice guys but because you're a superpower. Nobody said we were nice guys? Many countries have been abusive dumbasses, what does this have to do with anything?[2017-5-15. : 11:59 pm] ihjel -- Voyager7456Voyager7456 shouted: ihjel We cooperate with other intelligence services all the time. Voyager7456Voyager7456 shouted: That cooperation is contingent on us not being dumbasses and leaking secrets. US have always been abusive dumbasses, People don't ally you because you're nice guys but because you're a superpower.[2017-5-15. : 11:52 pm] Broflamingo -- Voyager7456Voyager7456 shouted: That cooperation is contingent on us not being dumbasses and leaking secrets. Yea, this is bad for national security. But Paul ryan and Mcconnell can't sign those Tax cuts into law without Trump in office so sadly this won't be the end.[2017-5-15. : 11:51 pm] ihjel -- BroflamingoBroflamingo shouted: ihjel Yep I get it. You have a great day sir. lol[2017-5-15. : 11:50 pm] Broflamingo -- ihjelihjel shouted: Broflamingo Explain what's it supposed to mean to hack an election first. Yep I get it. You have a great day sir.[2017-5-15. : 11:49 pm] ihjel -- BroflamingoBroflamingo shouted: ihjel One question: FBI, CIA, NSA, and the otehr 14 security agencies confirmed this: Russians hacked the election. Do you believe this, yes or no? Explain what's it supposed to mean to hack an election first.[2017-5-15. : 11:48 pm] Broflamingo -- ihjelihjel shouted: Broflamingo "Hacked the election". Lol hack the planet. DDOS the universe. You going to answer? Simple question.[2017-5-15. : 11:47 pm] ihjel -- VraelVrael shouted: ihjel ur mom Broflamingo suck eggs jjf28 fuk u its mod night Dem0n n00b Lol when was the last Mod Night even?[2017-5-15. : 11:47 pm] Voyager7456 -- That cooperation is contingent on us not being dumbasses and leaking secrets.[2017-5-15. : 11:47 pm] Broflamingo -- ihjelihjel shouted: Broflamingo "Hacked the election". Lol hack the planet. DDOS the universe. This a fair question and frankly non-political. Just yes or no.[2017-5-15. : 11:47 pm] Moose -- VraelVrael shouted: so many opinions, so many people who aren't involved with the situation and have nothing but ass to contribute The bar perceived by most people for entry into debate for politics is very low, so this what happen. LMAO[2017-5-15. : 11:47 pm] Voyager7456 -- ihjelihjel shouted: Broflamingo How so? Voyager7456 Trust, lol. Everyone is spying each other, there's no trust in international intelligence. We cooperate with other intelligence services all the time.[2017-5-15. : 11:46 pm] Broflamingo -- ihjelihjel shouted: Broflamingo "Hacked the election". Lol hack the planet. DDOS the universe. One question: FBI, CIA, NSA, and the otehr 14 security agencies confirmed this: Russians hacked the election. Do you believe this, yes or no?[2017-5-15. : 11:46 pm] Vrael -- ihjelihjel shouted: Broflamingo How so? Voyager7456 Trust, lol. Everyone is spying each other, there's no trust in international intelligence. ur mom BroflamingoBroflamingo shouted: jjf28 But he doesn't. There won't be a tight alliance with Russia, the only people who want this are Trumpers and Trump himself. Most people are not on board with Russia and frankly, it's already come out That Russia hacked the eleciton. Who cares who won, it's jsut the fact they interfered in a sacred process. There is not going to be a tight alliance jj. suck eggs jjf28jjf28 shouted: if you quoted the repetition and your or anyone's original refutation of the point, I'd be backing you. fuk u its mod night Dem0nDem0n shouted: wut n00b[2017-5-15. : 11:45 pm] ihjel -- BroflamingoBroflamingo shouted: jjf28 But he doesn't. There won't be a tight alliance with Russia, the only people who want this are Trumpers and Trump himself. Most people are not on board with Russia and frankly, it's already come out That Russia hacked the eleciton. Who cares who won, it's jsut the fact they interfered in a sacred process. There is not going to be a tight alliance jj. "Hacked the election". Lol hack the planet. DDOS the universe.[2017-5-15. : 11:44 pm] Vrael -- god I get enough of this shit on facebook, why can't we go back to the simpler days of flame wars on SEN?[2017-5-15. : 11:43 pm] ihjel -- BroflamingoBroflamingo shouted: ihjel Russia will pass intel to Iran, which sponsors a terrorist organization, which will undermine operations against ISIS and other organizations. I can't put this anymore clearer. How so? Voyager7456Voyager7456 shouted: ihjel Countries aren't going to cooperate with us on intelligence matters if we can't be trusted to keep shit secret. This is literally the 4th time someone has explained this. Trust, lol. Everyone is spying each other, there's no trust in international intelligence.[2017-5-15. : 11:43 pm] Broflamingo -- jjf28jjf28 shouted: Broflamingo he could have a legitimate point, and you're choosing to ignore it and at best attempt to undermine his ethos; take the logical high-ground first or the trolling begins But he doesn't. There won't be a tight alliance with Russia, the only people who want this are Trumpers and Trump himself. Most people are not on board with Russia and frankly, it's already come out That Russia hacked the eleciton. Who cares who won, it's jsut the fact they interfered in a sacred process. There is not going to be a tight alliance jj.[2017-5-15. : 11:43 pm] jjf28 -- if you quoted the repetition and your or anyone's original refutation of the point, I'd be backing you.[2017-5-15. : 11:41 pm] Vrael -- so many opinions, so many people who aren't involved with the situation and have nothing but ass to contribute[2017-5-15. : 11:40 pm] Broflamingo -- Voyager7456Voyager7456 shouted: ihjel Countries aren't going to cooperate with us on intelligence matters if we can't be trusted to keep shit secret. This is literally the 4th time someone has explained this. jjf28jjf28 shouted: address the argument then insult him, you're doubling your mistake with Ex JJ you could almost say hes reverse trolling at this point, he just keeps saying the same things.[2017-5-15. : 11:40 pm] jjf28 -- BroflamingoBroflamingo shouted: jjf28 JJ its clearly trump juice, and im not insulting him. But thats where they hang out. he could have a legitimate point, and you're choosing to ignore it and at best attempt to undermine his ethos; take the logical high-ground first or the trolling begins[2017-5-15. : 11:40 pm] Voyager7456 -- ihjelihjel shouted: Broflamingo How does it endanger national security. Forming a tight alliacne with Russia would be the best for national security. Countries aren't going to cooperate with us on intelligence matters if we can't be trusted to keep shit secret. This is literally the 4th time someone has explained this.[2017-5-15. : 11:39 pm] Broflamingo -- ihjelihjel shouted: Broflamingo How does it endanger national security. Forming a tight alliacne with Russia would be the best for national security. Russia will pass intel to Iran, which sponsors a terrorist organization, which will undermine operations against ISIS and other organizations. I can't put this anymore clearer.[2017-5-15. : 11:38 pm] ihjel -- BroflamingoBroflamingo shouted: ihjel Sorry bro, drink the Trump Juice all you want. 4chan /pol/ and breitbart are waiting for you, with open arms. This isn't even Dem/Repub this is about American national secrutiy. How does it endanger national security. Forming a tight alliacne with Russia would be the best for national security.[2017-5-15. : 11:38 pm] Broflamingo -- jjf28jjf28 shouted: address the argument then insult him, you're doubling your mistake with Ex JJ its clearly trump juice, and im not insulting him. But thats where they hang out.[2017-5-15. : 11:37 pm] Voyager7456 -- ihjelihjel shouted: Broflamingo Arguably, Terrorist organisation is a very loose term. So you're argument is that because they are friends with Hezbollah, US should obstruct their fight against ISIS for no reason? 1) Again, we betrayed our ally's trust. That's a huge problem. 2) This wasn't some joint operation planning, this was Trump bragging about how he gets "the best intel" and letting shit slip.[2017-5-15. : 11:37 pm] jjf28 -- address the argument then insult him, you're doubling your mistake with Ex [2017-5-15. : 11:36 pm] Broflamingo -- ihjelihjel shouted: Broflamingo Arguably, Terrorist organisation is a very loose term. So you're argument is that because they are friends with Hezbollah, US should obstruct their fight against ISIS for no reason? Sorry bro, drink the Trump Juice all you want. 4chan /pol/ and breitbart are waiting for you, with open arms. This isn't even Dem/Repub this is about American national secrutiy.[2017-5-15. : 11:35 pm] ihjel -- BroflamingoBroflamingo shouted: ihjel Let me paint the picture you for you. Hezbollah is a TERRORIST organization. ihjel Russia and Iran are allies, Iran sponsors Hezbollah....A TERRORIST ORGANIZATION.... Arguably, Terrorist organisation is a very loose term. So you're argument is that because they are friends with Hezbollah, US should obstruct their fight against ISIS for no reason?[2017-5-15. : 11:35 pm] Broflamingo -- Suicidal InsanitySuicidal Insanity shouted: Puts potentially storing classified information on an email server in perspective doesn't it? Very true. At a minimum gross incompetence, treason/impeachment at worst.[2017-5-15. : 11:33 pm] Suicidal Insanity -- Puts potentially storing classified information on an email server in perspective doesn't it?[2017-5-15. : 11:33 pm] Broflamingo -- Voyager7456Voyager7456 shouted: But regardless, there's a middle ground between "enemies" and "let's share the most highly classified information given to us in confidence" Whats even worse Voyager is Putin is Ex-KGB, this is right in his court.[2017-5-15. : 11:31 pm] Broflamingo -- Voyager7456Voyager7456 shouted: But regardless, there's a middle ground between "enemies" and "let's share the most highly classified information given to us in confidence" This.[2017-5-15. : 11:31 pm] Voyager7456 -- But regardless, there's a middle ground between "enemies" and "let's share the most highly classified information given to us in confidence"[2017-5-15. : 11:30 pm] jjf28 -- there's no reason to needlessly worsen our relationship with Russia, but there's a reason for enmity; ninja'd[2017-5-15. : 11:30 pm] Broflamingo -- ihjelihjel shouted: There's no reason to be enemies with Russia and Syria. Help them fight ISIS. Let me paint the picture you for you. Hezbollah is a TERRORIST organization. ihjelihjel shouted: Broflamingo Why do you care about Iran? Russia and Iran are allies, Iran sponsors Hezbollah....A TERRORIST ORGANIZATION....[2017-5-15. : 11:30 pm] Voyager7456 -- ihjelihjel shouted: There's no reason to be enemies with Russia and Syria. Help them fight ISIS. Uhhh... there are many reasons to be opposed to Russia and Syria.[2017-5-15. : 11:29 pm] ihjel -- BroflamingoBroflamingo shouted: ihjel You realize syria and Iran are allies. Iran is the patron of hezbollah, you sound really mis-informed. Why do you care about Iran?[2017-5-15. : 11:29 pm] Broflamingo -- ihjelihjel shouted: There's no reason to be enemies with Russia and Syria. Help them fight ISIS. You realize syria and Iran are allies. Iran is the patron of hezbollah, you sound really mis-informed.[2017-5-15. : 11:29 pm] ihjel -- Voyager7456Voyager7456 shouted: The intelligence was shared with us under the understanding it wouldn't be disseminated, not even to our close allies. Good luck getting countries to share intelligence with us now... Intelligence goes both ways nobody is going to cut off US for being dicks like they always been lol[2017-5-15. : 11:28 pm] Voyager7456 -- jjf28jjf28 shouted: you could probably call it a high crime Interestingly, in the historical context, "high crimes and misdemeanors" didn't actually have a high bar. It was used for basically any wrongdoing, including misappropriating funds.[2017-5-15. : 11:28 pm] Broflamingo -- ihjelihjel shouted: There's no reason to be enemies with Russia and Syria. Help them fight ISIS. Okay, we'll follow Komrad Trump.[2017-5-15. : 11:27 pm] ihjel -- There's no reason to be enemies with Russia and Syria. Help them fight ISIS.[2017-5-15. : 11:26 pm] ihjel -- BroflamingoBroflamingo shouted: ihjel Think before you say things like this. He was giving them intelligence about ISIS, iran and syira are Russian allies bro. It's isnt hard to reverse engineer source to find it. This could passed along to ISIS/Hezbollah. Voyager7456 This. If he gets away with this, non of our allies will pass along intelligence to the US. The White house can't be trusted. This isn't some "LOL MAINSTREAM MEDIA BRO" talking point. Good. There'[2017-5-15. : 11:23 pm] Broflamingo -- jjf28jjf28 shouted: Broflamingo under the twenty-fifth amendment he could in theory be discharged for such, it's not technically impeachment hmmmm good point.[2017-5-15. : 11:23 pm] Broflamingo -- ihjelihjel shouted: Trump can tell Russia whatever the hell he wants. He's the president. Think before you say things like this. He was giving them intelligence about ISIS, iran and syira are Russian allies bro. It's isnt hard to reverse engineer source to find it. This could passed along to ISIS/Hezbollah. Voyager7456Voyager7456 shouted: The intelligence was shared with us under the understanding it wouldn't be disseminated, not even to our close allies. Good luck getting countries to share intelligence with us now... This. If he gets away with this, non of our allies will pass along intelligence to the US. The White house can't be trusted. This isn't some "LOL MAINSTREAM MEDIA BRO" talking point. |
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