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[2017-5-16. : 3:24 am]

Iceman166 -- jff28, refer to my last comment.

[2017-5-16. : 3:23 am]

ihjel -- Broflamingo

Broflamingo shouted: ihjel No. Just supreme confidence over trash ideology that is proving its incompetence and frankly danger to the nation. Trumpism is trash that is beneath me. So not ignorance, just supreme confidence.

Supreme confidence based on pure ignorance.

[2017-5-16. : 3:22 am]

jjf28 -- Iceman166

Iceman166 shouted: Because law is built upon constructions of opposing arguments. Philosophy is not some end-all to anything remotely related to discussion

constructing opposing arguments is firmly in the domain of philosophy

[2017-5-16. : 3:22 am]

Iceman166 -- We get it, you guys really like philosophy. /End Iceman rage

[2017-5-16. : 3:22 am]

O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- Voyager7456

Voyager7456 shouted: Imagine that, a chatroom on a StarCraft website not adhering to the standards of legal proceedings.

maybe we should amend the rules then

[2017-5-16. : 3:22 am]

Broflamingo -- jjf28

jjf28 shouted: Iceman166 In court you have to follow the same principles I laid out jjf28 and have to not commit fallacies just the same - whether or not they choose the spicy terms depends on the lawyer/judge

False, because Swaying peoples emotions works in court example: Striking out jury members of color to get an all white jury to convict a person of color.

[2017-5-16. : 3:21 am]

Iceman166 -- Because law is built upon constructions of opposing arguments. Philosophy is not some end-all to anything remotely related to discussion

[2017-5-16. : 3:20 am]

Broflamingo -- Iceman166

Iceman166 shouted: Philosophical theory is a spice in a otherwise fulfilling dish. Everyone is swinging it around like a sword

I like this alot. You were too harsh at first, but i agree with that.

[2017-5-16. : 3:20 am]

jjf28 -- Iceman166

Iceman166 shouted: Excuse the hate, but you would never be able to do this in law and you would be laughed out of court for this garbage.

In court you have to follow the same principles I laid out jjf28

jjf28 shouted: Broflamingo Frankly I care much less about the actual point any two groups are arguing and more that they're: 1) Arguing truly contradictory positions. 2) Actually logic'ing (if there are no premises or your conclusion doesn't follow, you're not supporting anything; if there are premises potentially connection to an opposing conclusion and you don't attack them or the connection you're not opposing anything, anything in-between is bullshit). 3) Use gud english. Fail on any count and I'll go nutz on your ass :teach:

and have to not commit fallacies just the same - whether or not they choose the spicy terms depends on the lawyer/judge

[2017-5-16. : 3:20 am]

Iceman166 -- Philosophical theory is a spice in a otherwise fulfilling dish. Everyone is swinging it around like a sword

[2017-5-16. : 3:19 am]

Voyager7456 -- Imagine that, a chatroom on a StarCraft website not adhering to the standards of legal proceedings.

[2017-5-16. : 3:18 am]

Iceman166 -- Excuse the hate, but you would never be able to do this in law and you would be laughed out of court for this garbage.

[2017-5-16. : 3:18 am]

Broflamingo -- jjf28

jjf28 shouted: the way you fight it in a reasonably intellectual circles like this is not by shouting it down -- who profits? you lose credibility and you claim your interlocutor isn't going to change anyways; give my way a chance

There are things we can debate. I agree. But Trumpism is not one of them, its not an argument anymore than an incompetent is running the country with nuclear codes?

[2017-5-16. : 3:18 am]

jjf28 -- Iceman166

Iceman166 shouted: "MY LOGIC!! CONCLUSION!!! I PLAY MY STRAWMAN CARD!!! COUNTER ME!!! STOP INFERRING WHAT I SAY!! "

did you just diss logic as a form of persuasion? :ban:

[2017-5-16. : 3:17 am]

Iceman166 -- "MY LOGIC!! CONCLUSION!!! I PLAY MY STRAWMAN CARD!!! COUNTER ME!!! STOP INFERRING WHAT I SAY!! "

[2017-5-16. : 3:17 am]

Broflamingo -- jjf28

jjf28 shouted: the way you fight it in a reasonably intellectual circles like this is not by shouting it down -- who profits? you lose credibility and you claim your interlocutor isn't going to change anyways; give my way a chance

Donald Trump would love to say hi to you

[2017-5-16. : 3:16 am]

Iceman166 -- This website's tendency to do nothing but over-value philosophical counterpoints is one of the most /r/iamverysmart things I have ever read. Communicate actual conversation and stop resorting to remnants of High School debate team.

[2017-5-16. : 3:16 am]

jjf28 -- the way you fight it in a reasonably intellectual circles like this is not by shouting it down -- who profits? you lose credibility and you claim your interlocutor isn't going to change anyways; give my way a chance

[2017-5-16. : 3:16 am]

Broflamingo -- ihjel

ihjel shouted: Broflamingo Refuses debate, Calls other ignorant. Projection.

No. Just supreme confidence over trash ideology that is proving its incompetence and frankly danger to the nation. Trumpism is trash that is beneath me. So not ignorance, just supreme confidence.

[2017-5-16. : 3:14 am]

ihjel -- Broflamingo

Broflamingo shouted: ihjel Another cool story. Newsflash, that shit is coming to an end so have your day in the ignorant sun. Have a great day sir.

Refuses debate, Calls other ignorant. Projection.

[2017-5-16. : 3:14 am]

Broflamingo -- ihjel

ihjel shouted: Broflamingo Antitrumpism is just unfoced emotional anger towards Nationalism/Order/Whites. That is just hatred/distrust/racism/ignorance.

I'll see you in 2018 big bro.

[2017-5-16. : 3:13 am]

Broflamingo -- ihjel

ihjel shouted: Broflamingo Antitrumpism is just unfoced emotional anger towards Nationalism/Order/Whites. That is just hatred/distrust/racism/ignorance.

Another cool story. Newsflash, that shit is coming to an end so have your day in the ignorant sun. Have a great day sir.

[2017-5-16. : 3:11 am]

ihjel -- Broflamingo

Broflamingo shouted: jjf28 One other thing JJ, and you might have to concede this to me. What you are saying about debates are true, I am not disagreeing. However most of Trumpism is based on unfocuse emotional anger to Globalism/Liberals/Minorities. That is just hatred/distrust/racism/ignorance. You don't debate, you fight it.

Antitrumpism is just unfoced emotional anger towards Nationalism/Order/Whites. That is just hatred/distrust/racism/ignorance.

[2017-5-16. : 3:11 am]

Broflamingo -- CecilSunkure

CecilSunkure shouted: Thing is, you keep coming back! Actions say you care. Log off. Don't come back. That shows you really "dont care"

Cool story, my teen angst is tearing me apart.

[2017-5-16. : 3:11 am]

Broflamingo -- jjf28

jjf28 shouted: if you don't believe you can win your interlocutor tossing unentertaining insults just get me on your ass and waste both our times

This is why people are taking to the Streets, protesting, angry town halls. In republican districts btw, and polticial re-alignment is going to happen not unlike the 60's soon.

[2017-5-16. : 3:10 am]

CecilSunkure -- Thing is, you keep coming back! Actions say you care. Log off. Don't come back. That shows you really "dont care"

[2017-5-16. : 3:10 am]

Broflamingo -- jjf28

jjf28 shouted: this is SEN not facebook, be straight and you'll win the crowd

One other thing JJ, and you might have to concede this to me. What you are saying about debates are true, I am not disagreeing. However most of Trumpism is based on unfocuse emotional anger to Globalism/Liberals/Minorities. That is just hatred/distrust/racism/ignorance. You don't debate, you fight it.

[2017-5-16. : 3:10 am]

CecilSunkure -- Broflamingo

Broflamingo shouted: CecilSunkure That assumes I care about what you say. And I don't, you just need to read more. Think its over cecil, wasted enuff time. Now if you will excuses master debater, i have to listen to some my chemical romance. You have a good day.

Oh ok. Rather than make a real argument you'd like to mock me and "not care"

[2017-5-16. : 3:09 am]

jjf28 -- if you don't believe you can win your interlocutor tossing unentertaining insults just get me on your ass and waste both our times

[2017-5-16. : 3:07 am]

jjf28 -- this is SEN not facebook, be straight and you'll win the crowd

[2017-5-16. : 3:07 am]

Broflamingo -- jjf28

jjf28 shouted: you're A) making too many assumptions about your interlocutors and B) ruining your own image by skipping the easy logical wins for the personal jabs; it's exactly why I hate most non-sanders democrats, they could easily win most policy positions in economic and moral terms (imo), but let's bring up the comments Trump made against a former miss universe instead

And to your point jjj, i agree. Except the Clintonites run the party at this point, and it will take time to root out Clinton-WallStreet-CorpDem crowd. Liberal elites detest sanders and his ilk, the old guard has to go, and they will they are getting old and discredited (I.E: Two time loser hilary clinton)

[2017-5-16. : 3:05 am]

Voyager7456 -- Ehhhhhh... I sympathize with Broflamingo here. Anyone clinging on to Trumpist nonsense at this point is not going to be swayed by calm and logical debate.

[2017-5-16. : 3:05 am]

O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- :wob:

[2017-5-16. : 3:02 am]

Broflamingo -- jjf28

jjf28 shouted: you're A) making too many assumptions about your interlocutors and B) ruining your own image by skipping the easy logical wins for the personal jabs; it's exactly why I hate most non-sanders democrats, they could easily win most policy positions in economic and moral terms (imo), but let's bring up the comments Trump made against a former miss universe instead

Its not about the debate big bro, its about the message, momentum, and image. Welcome to politics my friend

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[2017-5-16. : 3:01 am]

jjf28 -- you're A) making too many assumptions about your interlocutors and B) ruining your own image by skipping the easy logical wins for the personal jabs; it's exactly why I hate most non-sanders democrats, they could easily win most policy positions in economic and moral terms (imo), but let's bring up the comments Trump made against a former miss universe instead

[2017-5-16. : 3:00 am]

Broflamingo -- CecilSunkure

CecilSunkure shouted: Calling people Trumpists and then telling them to look it up won't solve any real problems. If I go look up Trumpism now, no matter how hard I try, I guarantee you that you'll disagree with the definition I come up with

That assumes I care about what you say. And I don't, you just need to read more. Think its over cecil, wasted enuff time. Now if you will excuses master debater, i have to listen to some my chemical romance. You have a good day.

[2017-5-16. : 2:59 am]

CecilSunkure -- It's like if I called you a Nazi, and then told you to go look into WW2 history. And refused to talk with you in open discussion until you somehow match the definition of Nazi I have built up in my head

[2017-5-16. : 2:58 am]

CecilSunkure -- Calling people Trumpists and then telling them to look it up won't solve any real problems. If I go look up Trumpism now, no matter how hard I try, I guarantee you that you'll disagree with the definition I come up with

[2017-5-16. : 2:57 am]

Broflamingo -- CecilSunkure

CecilSunkure shouted: If you don't want to sound like an angsty teen, and possibly change someone else's mind, explaining what Trumpism is, and why they should not display it would be helpful

If you want to know what Trumpism, read. If you wanna learn about geo-politics read more. That simple.

[2017-5-16. : 2:55 am]

Broflamingo -- CecilSunkure

CecilSunkure shouted: If you don't want to sound like an angsty teen, and possibly change someone else's mind, explaining what Trumpism is, and why they should not display it would be helpful

Angsty teen jab was cute. But its just supreme confidence which is why you seem very upset at it. You can be weak about stuff like this, I won't.

[2017-5-16. : 2:54 am]

Broflamingo -- CecilSunkure

CecilSunkure shouted: Broflamingo Attacking Trumpism is fine. Telling other people they are displaying Trumpism and then declining to have a discussion just makes you look bad

Because its based off ignorance, blatant lies, and pretty much a cult of personality to a certain extent. Again a backlash to liberalism. There is nothing serious here except limiting the damage this man can do, after all, a logical debate won't stop a madman with launch codes will it?

[2017-5-16. : 2:54 am]

CecilSunkure -- If you don't want to sound like an angsty teen, and possibly change someone else's mind, explaining what Trumpism is, and why they should not display it would be helpful

[2017-5-16. : 2:53 am]

CecilSunkure -- Broflamingo

Broflamingo shouted: CecilSunkure Hey, Love my country. Trumpism is destroying it. My opinion. Pretty sure its free speech.

Attacking Trumpism is fine. Telling other people they are displaying Trumpism and then declining to have a discussion just makes you look bad

[2017-5-16. : 2:52 am]

Broflamingo -- jjf28

jjf28 shouted: Broflamingo in elitist terms, you committed ad hominem by implying your interlocutor was like Jim Jones cult member and a pooh-pooh by suggesting his thoughts would be more welcome at (insert shitty circles) and you did it in response to what your interlocutor was saying as a serious. Potentially outing assets is bad and you could easily (and pretty much did later) make that point, but you started with fallacies, and must burn for your transgressions Broflamingo

Look you can sit there and say that, there is truth, but there is a reason why its dwindling to breitbart, /pol/ channels, its because its being discredited and trump himself is being discredited. Call it whatever you like.

[2017-5-16. : 2:51 am]

jjf28 -- as a serious point*

[2017-5-16. : 2:50 am]

Broflamingo -- CecilSunkure

CecilSunkure shouted: Broflamingo Labeling people is pretty lame. Labeling people and then declining open conversation is even more lame. Stay out of the SD/LD and in the shoutbox!

Hey, Love my country. Trumpism is destroying it. My opinion. Pretty sure its free speech.

[2017-5-16. : 2:50 am]

jjf28 -- Broflamingo

Broflamingo shouted: jjf28 There is where we differ jj. I know I am basing my thoughts off of logic, giving the Trumpisms the time of day and dissecting is a waste of time. You don't entertain ignorance.

in elitist terms, you committed ad hominem by implying your interlocutor was like Jim Jones cult member and a pooh-pooh by suggesting his thoughts would be more welcome at (insert shitty circles) and you did it in response to what your interlocutor was saying as a serious. Potentially outing assets is bad and you could easily (and pretty much did later) make that point, but you started with fallacies, and must burn for your transgressions Broflamingo

Broflamingo shouted: ihjel Sorry bro, drink the Trump Juice all you want. 4chan /pol/ and breitbart are waiting for you, with open arms. This isn't even Dem/Repub this is about American national secrutiy.

[2017-5-16. : 2:49 am]

CecilSunkure -- Broflamingo

Broflamingo shouted: jjf28 Politics is a passion of mine, and Frankly there is nothing to argue here. He wants play trumpist games cool. I know Hezbollah is a terrorist organization, there is no "debate" or "logicing", Russian and Iran are allied in Syria. The reverse engineering of a secret source can hurt us, and shut down intelligence channels from future attacks. Dem, Repub, Lib, Conserv doesn't matter. You don't entertain the Tinfoilism's, people don't try to debate alex jones. Those people (and i broke my rule here) are best left ignored.

Labeling people is pretty lame. Labeling people and then declining open conversation is even more lame. Stay out of the SD/LD and in the shoutbox!

[2017-5-16. : 2:49 am]

Broflamingo -- ihjel

ihjel shouted: Broflamingo I AM LOGIC Broflamingo EVERYTHING I SAY IS FACT Broflamingo MY POLITICAL OPPONENTS ARE MAD

Caps lock off bro, only my opinion XD

[2017-5-16. : 2:46 am]

Dem0n -- mad

[2017-5-16. : 2:46 am]

ihjel -- Broflamingo

Broflamingo shouted: jjf28 There is where we differ jj. I know I am basing my thoughts off of logic, giving the Trumpisms the time of day and dissecting is a waste of time. You don't entertain ignorance.

I AM LOGIC Broflamingo

Broflamingo shouted: jjf28 Politics is a passion of mine, and Frankly there is nothing to argue here. He wants play trumpist games cool. I know Hezbollah is a terrorist organization, there is no "debate" or "logicing", Russian and Iran are allied in Syria. The reverse engineering of a secret source can hurt us, and shut down intelligence channels from future attacks. Dem, Repub, Lib, Conserv doesn't matter. You don't entertain the Tinfoilism's, people don't try to debate alex jones. Those people (and i broke my rule here) are best left ignored.

EVERYTHING I SAY IS FACT Broflamingo

Broflamingo shouted: jjf28 And to be specific here, Trumpism, is mainly about burning the house down and giving the F-U.

MY POLITICAL OPPONENTS ARE MAD

[2017-5-16. : 2:44 am]

O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- jjf28

jjf28 shouted: Broflamingo Frankly I care much less about the actual point any two groups are arguing and more that they're: 1) Arguing truly contradictory positions. 2) Actually logic'ing (if there are no premises or your conclusion doesn't follow, you're not supporting anything; if there are premises potentially connection to an opposing conclusion and you don't attack them or the connection you're not opposing anything, anything in-between is bullshit). 3) Use gud english. Fail on any count and I'll go nutz on your ass :teach:

They's ain't even speak English!

[2017-5-16. : 2:43 am]

Broflamingo -- jjf28

jjf28 shouted: Broflamingo Frankly I care much less about the actual point any two groups are arguing and more that they're: 1) Arguing truly contradictory positions. 2) Actually logic'ing (if there are no premises or your conclusion doesn't follow, you're not supporting anything; if there are premises potentially connection to an opposing conclusion and you don't attack them or the connection you're not opposing anything, anything in-between is bullshit). 3) Use gud english. Fail on any count and I'll go nutz on your ass :teach:

And to be specific here, Trumpism, is mainly about burning the house down and giving the F-U.

[2017-5-16. : 2:42 am]

Broflamingo -- jjf28

jjf28 shouted: Broflamingo Frankly I care much less about the actual point any two groups are arguing and more that they're: 1) Arguing truly contradictory positions. 2) Actually logic'ing (if there are no premises or your conclusion doesn't follow, you're not supporting anything; if there are premises potentially connection to an opposing conclusion and you don't attack them or the connection you're not opposing anything, anything in-between is bullshit). 3) Use gud english. Fail on any count and I'll go nutz on your ass :teach:

Politics is a passion of mine, and Frankly there is nothing to argue here. He wants play trumpist games cool. I know Hezbollah is a terrorist organization, there is no "debate" or "logicing", Russian and Iran are allied in Syria. The reverse engineering of a secret source can hurt us, and shut down intelligence channels from future attacks. Dem, Repub, Lib, Conserv doesn't matter. You don't entertain the Tinfoilism's, people don't try to debate alex jones. Those people (and i broke my rule here) are best left ignored.

[2017-5-16. : 2:39 am]

Broflamingo -- jjf28

jjf28 shouted: Broflamingo Frankly I care much less about the actual point any two groups are arguing and more that they're: 1) Arguing truly contradictory positions. 2) Actually logic'ing (if there are no premises or your conclusion doesn't follow, you're not supporting anything; if there are premises potentially connection to an opposing conclusion and you don't attack them or the connection you're not opposing anything, anything in-between is bullshit). 3) Use gud english. Fail on any count and I'll go nutz on your ass :teach:

There is where we differ jj. I know I am basing my thoughts off of logic, giving the Trumpisms the time of day and dissecting is a waste of time. You don't entertain ignorance.

[2017-5-16. : 2:17 am]

jjf28 -- Broflamingo

Broflamingo shouted: jjf28 But he doesn't. There won't be a tight alliance with Russia, the only people who want this are Trumpers and Trump himself. Most people are not on board with Russia and frankly, it's already come out That Russia hacked the eleciton. Who cares who won, it's jsut the fact they interfered in a sacred process. There is not going to be a tight alliance jj.

Frankly I care much less about the actual point any two groups are arguing and more that they're: 1) Arguing truly contradictory positions. 2) Actually logic'ing (if there are no premises or your conclusion doesn't follow, you're not supporting anything; if there are premises potentially connection to an opposing conclusion and you don't attack them or the connection you're not opposing anything, anything in-between is bullshit). 3) Use gud english. Fail on any count and I'll go nutz on your ass :teach:

[2017-5-16. : 1:35 am]

Voyager7456 -- Mini Moose 2707

Mini Moose 2707 shouted: bopped

lmao good message

[2017-5-16. : 1:15 am]

O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- that took forever, and for nothing

[2017-5-16. : 1:14 am]

Moose -- bopped

[2017-5-16. : 1:14 am]

O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- is it the one that just says "Done."?

[2017-5-16. : 1:12 am]

O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- I'll sure try

[2017-5-16. : 1:12 am]

O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- I'll sure try

[2017-5-16. : 1:09 am]

Voyager7456 -- Someone delete my double post please

[2017-5-16. : 1:08 am]

Moose -- w/e

[2017-5-16. : 12:51 am]

Broflamingo -- ihjel

ihjel shouted: Broflamingo Nice deflection. I don't need to define common terms as opposed to a vague term as "hacking an election". Voyager7456 Exactly. Trump sharing some information he in violation of terms may harm relations with some countries but also better them with others and help defeat ISIS. It's always a cost/benefit weigting..

"Nice guys" and "Abusvie assholes" are terms that are loosely defined and subjective, need to define them bah

[2017-5-16. : 12:47 am]

Broflamingo -- ihjel

ihjel shouted: Broflamingo Nice deflection. I don't need to define common terms as opposed to a vague term as "hacking an election". Voyager7456 Exactly. Trump sharing some information he in violation of terms may harm relations with some countries but also better them with others and help defeat ISIS. It's always a cost/benefit weigting..

Wait define deflection...

[2017-5-16. : 12:46 am]

Voyager7456 -- But w/e doesn't affect me, not like I'm going to protect or unprotect anything lmao

[2017-5-16. : 12:46 am]

Voyager7456 -- Seems like since the community is so small and many creators have disappeared, maybe it'd be a good thing to have these resources available

[2017-5-16. : 12:39 am]

Moose -- Depends on who's around when you raise the topic LMAO

[2017-5-16. : 12:38 am]

Voyager7456 -- Is there really still a need for a rule against unprotectors?