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[2017-6-10. : 8:38 pm] Broflamingo -- Mini Moose 2707Mini Moose 2707 shouted: No, that's not the truth because I'm saying it's not the truth. You can't do that. 1) You are not Broflamingo. 2) Would you like some reading material?[2017-6-10. : 8:38 pm]  jjf28 -- No, that's not not the truth because I'm saying it's not not the truth.[2017-6-10. : 8:36 pm] Broflamingo -- Mini Moose 2707Mini Moose 2707 shouted: Time for the old throw around contradicting assertions without evidence party C|X^D P.S: In america this is the truth, there is no reason to give the rundown of the highly racialized history of America and the strife minorities went through to prove a point on SEN is there?[2017-6-10. : 8:34 pm] Broflamingo -- Mini Moose 2707Mini Moose 2707 shouted: Time for the old throw around contradicting assertions without evidence party C|X^D http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/293/590/6f6.gif[2017-6-10. : 8:34 pm] jjf28 -- Mini Moose 2707Mini Moose 2707 shouted: Time for the old throw around contradicting assertions without evidence party C|X^D actually I already dodged the discussion jjf28jjf28 shouted: Broflamingo what if I told you that you failed to phrase your response in the form of Morpheus?  [2017-6-10. : 8:34 pm] Broflamingo -- jjf28jjf28 shouted: payne what if I told you that economic factors, though extremely important, are not a sufficient explanatory hypothesis to explain something as broad as racism and the linguistics surrounding it? Okay to be fair, you MAY have a point, but in the context of america I definitely believe what i said prior is true.[2017-6-10. : 8:33 pm]  Moose -- Time for the old throw around contradicting assertions without evidence party C|X^D[2017-6-10. : 8:33 pm] Broflamingo -- jjf28jjf28 shouted: Broflamingo what if I told you that you failed to phrase your response in the form of Morpheus? Come on jjf28, thats easy....my response is....BROWNAGE[2017-6-10. : 8:32 pm] jjf28 -- BroflamingoBroflamingo shouted: jjf28 Disagree, capitalism without heavy regulation create wealth disparities which plant the seeds of demonizing the racial other what if I told you that you failed to phrase your response in the form of Morpheus?[2017-6-10. : 8:32 pm] Broflamingo -- jjf28jjf28 shouted: payne what if I told you that economic factors, though extremely important, are not a sufficient explanatory hypothesis to explain something as broad as racism and the linguistics surrounding it? For status quo, maintaining inequality, and using it as a weapon to maintain wealth inequality. Specifically to treat them as the reason to why you are not getting ahead to the wealth and riches.[2017-6-10. : 8:31 pm] Broflamingo -- jjf28jjf28 shouted: payne what if I told you that economic factors, though extremely important, are not a sufficient explanatory hypothesis to explain something as broad as racism and the linguistics surrounding it? Disagree, capitalism without heavy regulation create wealth disparities which plant the seeds of demonizing the racial other[2017-6-10. : 8:29 pm] jjf28 -- paynepayne shouted: Teenager rant: what if I told you capitalism is inherently racist, and that with this petty discussion happening here, you are just being a white privileged neo-imperialist trying to reduce the frequency of racism-oriented debates through removing the more obvious ways that racism appears before us, thus protecting the ultimate perpatrator of racism: the economical system. /ysosrs what if I told you that economic factors, though extremely important, are not a sufficient explanatory hypothesis to explain something as broad as racism and the linguistics surrounding it?[2017-6-10. : 8:26 pm] Broflamingo -- paynepayne shouted: Teenager rant: what if I told you capitalism is inherently racist, and that with this petty discussion happening here, you are just being a white privileged neo-imperialist trying to reduce the frequency of racism-oriented debates through removing the more obvious ways that racism appears before us, thus protecting the ultimate perpatrator of racism: the economical system. /ysosrs Wow, more BROWNAGE.[2017-6-10. : 8:23 pm] Broflamingo -- lil-Infernolil-Inferno shouted: NudeRaider You're kidding yourself if you think that would make racism cease to exist. George Wallace comes to mind.[2017-6-10. : 8:22 pm] Broflamingo -- lil-Infernolil-Inferno shouted: NudeRaider You're kidding yourself if you think that would make racism cease to exist. Agreed. It's a useful tool for political power and division outside the context of hate.[2017-6-10. : 7:15 pm] Suicidal Insanity -- theskinsurftheskinsurf shouted: upgrades keep setting themselves to funky things Newest build?[2017-6-10. : 6:46 pm] NudeRaider -- lil-Infernolil-Inferno shouted: NudeRaider You're kidding yourself if you think that would make racism cease to exist. ehhh... I know I'm not racist. So if everyone was not racist, racism would cease to exsist...[2017-6-10. : 6:35 pm] Broflamingo -- SwampfoxSwampfox shouted: You guys keep mentionining position of power, and how a new user to the site would react to nude saying "nigger", but you do realize there is no distinction as to who is in a position of power in the shoutbox right? Nude just looks like any other user. While i mainly agree, nudes name is shiny, highlighted and has a distinct. It's not a far off assumption hes in a position of authority.[2017-6-10. : 6:33 pm] Broflamingo -- Mini Moose 2707Mini Moose 2707 shouted: Voyager7456 Voyager7456 What if you in this restaurant or this hypothetical guy sees roughly a page of Pr0 and Bro going back and forth about being 12 and raging about fuck bitches get money or w/e LMAO To be fair moose it started over....."BROWNAGE' lmao[2017-6-10. : 5:58 pm] lil-Inferno -- NudeRaiderNudeRaider shouted: lil-Inferno for the record, if everyone followed my example, racism would cease to exist. If everyone against racism would follow it, the remaining racists would have a much harder time to "look normal". It would even go a step further. Now that everyone is more focused on how everyone actually treats each other, instead of language, non-racial-related abuse and bullying would be more be called upon. You may not like my methods, but I'm definitely on your side. You're kidding yourself if you think that would make racism cease to exist.[2017-6-10. : 5:42 pm] NudeRaider -- lil-Infernolil-Inferno shouted: Sure, but I wasn't specifically talking about new users in that regard. There's the sense that a person in a position of authority should be leading by example (e.g.: showing that casual racism isn't acceptable) for the record, if everyone followed my example, racism would cease to exist. If everyone against racism would follow it, the remaining racists would have a much harder time to "look normal". It would even go a step further. Now that everyone is more focused on how everyone actually treats each other, instead of language, non-racial-related abuse and bullying would be more be called upon. You may not like my methods, but I'm definitely on your side.[2017-6-10. : 5:33 pm] payne -- Teenager rant: what if I told you capitalism is inherently racist, and that with this petty discussion happening here, you are just being a white privileged neo-imperialist trying to reduce the frequency of racism-oriented debates through removing the more obvious ways that racism appears before us, thus protecting the ultimate perpatrator of racism: the economical system. /ysosrs[2017-6-10. : 5:31 pm] lil-Inferno -- Sure, but I wasn't specifically talking about new users in that regard. There's the sense that a person in a position of authority should be leading by example (e.g.: showing that casual racism isn't acceptable)[2017-6-10. : 5:12 pm]  Swampfox -- You guys keep mentionining position of power, and how a new user to the site would react to nude saying "nigger", but you do realize there is no distinction as to who is in a position of power in the shoutbox right? Nude just looks like any other user.[2017-6-10. : 3:26 pm] Voyager7456 -- lil-Infernolil-Inferno shouted: And not that it excuses him, but Dem0n also isn't in a position of authority This. Also bad and should be called out, but it has additional impact coming from a moderator[2017-6-10. : 3:25 pm] Voyager7456 -- Mini Moose 2707Mini Moose 2707 shouted: Voyager7456 Voyager7456 What if you in this restaurant or this hypothetical guy sees roughly a page of Pr0 and Bro going back and forth about being 12 and raging about fuck bitches get money or w/e LMAO Also probably not great but not on the same magnitude IMO. Even if it is an issue, "but what about additional problem X" is not a great excuse[2017-6-10. : 3:02 pm] Moose -- I just think that if it carries that degree of offensiveness, then we shouldn't be selective about who we go after for using it.[2017-6-10. : 3:00 pm] lil-Inferno -- And not that it excuses him, but Dem0n also isn't in a position of authority[2017-6-10. : 2:54 pm] lil-Inferno -- I didn't recall tbh, but Dem0n not a whitey tighty so w/e C|X^ DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD[2017-6-10. : 2:47 pm] Moose -- I know. And Dem0n has done that. Dem0nDem0n shouted: can you niggers like read some shit before posting the same thing over and over ROFL Dem0nDem0n shouted: get on bw nigger [2017-6-10. : 2:46 pm] lil-Inferno -- Nigga is fine, I use it all the time. It's the hard R and distasteful use imo[2017-6-10. : 2:44 pm] Moose -- TBH, if it weren't Nude, I have trouble believing Inferno would even give a shit. Dem0n has said it more than a few times and I have never, ever seen him say anything about it LMAO[2017-6-10. : 2:41 pm] jjf28 -- personally I think we should normalize and rob every offensive word of its power and that comedy is the best way to do that; though there's typically other factors at play and we need to be tactful as we do so[2017-6-10. : 2:29 pm] lil-Inferno -- Nude just uses it cuz he wants to be like an edgy teenager on Xbox Live LMAO[2017-6-10. : 2:28 pm] lil-Inferno -- ya but the difference is that I was given my official blacc card in 11th grade when I won a rap battle[2017-6-10. : 2:27 pm] Moose -- The best part is Inferno runs around talking like a crip all the time LMAO[2017-6-10. : 2:18 pm] lil-Inferno -- NudeRaiderNudeRaider shouted: that's why was saying stop being offended. Don't take the mere mention of the word as a red flag. Look at the what it was said and why. Make your distinction there. THen you can easily point out those that DO have racist intentions. The only thing that matters is how other people interpret what you say.[2017-6-10. : 1:16 pm] Moose -- Voyager7456Voyager7456 shouted: NudeRaider You mistake disgust for sensitivity. If I'm in a restaurant where the other patrons are screaming profanity, I'm not cowering under my bed but I'm sure as hell not eating there again. Voyager7456Voyager7456 shouted: Not to mention if I'm just some guy stopping by to download Cat and Mouse COLORS!!!! v5000 FIXED! or whatever and I just catch a glimpse of the shoutbox, do you think I'm going to make a snap judgement or sit down and read 30 pages of context? What if you in this restaurant or this hypothetical guy sees roughly a page of Pr0 and Bro going back and forth about being 12 and raging about fuck bitches get money or w/e LMAO[2017-6-10. : 6:20 am] Pr0nogo -- yeah i think that's all most people are asking for, glad you're open minded about it[2017-6-10. : 6:17 am] NudeRaider -- ya I know. But it's who I am in my natural habitat.  And as long as there's no rules against using red flag words, I will continue. It's not like I'm on a rampage and will spam it every day or every week. I don't even use it intentionally at all. But if these occasions are deemed detrimental to SEN (by an official capacity) I will of course stop. I won't put my personal views above SEN rules.[2017-6-10. : 6:14 am] Pr0nogo -- starting a thread in lite discussion or whatever SD turned into would be a step in the right direction for a much more constructive discussion[2017-6-10. : 6:14 am] Pr0nogo -- i know you're trying to shed light on this but people aren't coming to SEN for that, at least not expressly[2017-6-10. : 6:13 am] Pr0nogo -- yes, that's what i meant when i said Pr0nogoPr0nogo shouted: correcting psychological conditioning is a pretty difficult thing to do and Pr0nogoPr0nogo shouted: that's the conditioning i meant , haha[2017-6-10. : 6:13 am] NudeRaider -- Pr0nogoPr0nogo shouted: correcting psychological conditioning is a pretty difficult thing to do nonono I don't want to condition people. I want to make aware of the fact that this conditioning exists, and how it's bad.#[2017-6-10. : 6:12 am] Pr0nogo -- but even so, it's rough to expect that from the average person in an environment that isn't geared towards it to begin with[2017-6-10. : 6:12 am] NudeRaider -- I mean not, "correct racism" (that too, but that's another topic) but I think one step towards that is listening to what a person has to say, not the words he uses. You can be easily be fooled by nice words.[2017-6-10. : 6:12 am] Pr0nogo -- ultimately nobody can stop you really, and while i personally don't care, i have been lambasted for using the term and plenty of people now avoid involving themselves with me, regardless of context |
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