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[2017-7-13. : 3:27 pm] thekian -- Voyager7456Voyager7456 shouted: Why is the right to free speech complete and unrestricted for bigots, but you want to impose restrictions on the kinds of things CNN can publish? The speech that nobody wants to hear IS THE SPEECH THAT NEEDS PROTECTION.[2017-7-13. : 3:26 pm]  Pr0nogo -- Voyager7456Voyager7456 shouted: Well if people have a problem with CNN's articles, the free market of opinions will just weed it out, won't it? pretty obvious that the media exists with a greater sphere of influence than one person, which is the point of me saying it's wrong of them to use that influence to violate a private citizen's rights[2017-7-13. : 3:26 pm]  Voyager7456 -- Why is the right to free speech complete and unrestricted for bigots, but you want to impose restrictions on the kinds of things CNN can publish?[2017-7-13. : 3:26 pm]  O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- You know, even though human genetics are already a huge mishmash of different races and protohuman species[2017-7-13. : 3:26 pm] O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- Voyager7456Voyager7456 shouted: And there's a simple solution for that - don't spew that kind of shit on the internet if you're worried that your life would be ruined if it got out but how else will I keep the bloodline pure?  [2017-7-13. : 3:26 pm] Voyager7456 -- Well if people have a problem with CNN's articles, the free market of opinions will just weed it out, won't it?[2017-7-13. : 3:25 pm] Pr0nogo -- thekianthekian shouted: I mean, if you're having a problem with seeing that on the Internet, maybe stay away from things like /pol/? just designating an area of the internet as 'undesirable' is not the solution to the problem [2017-7-13. : 3:25 pm] poiuy_qwert -- anyone here have "man" problems? looks like this new bot can help: http://www.staredit.net/profile/14649/[2017-7-13. : 3:25 pm] Voyager7456 -- thekianthekian shouted: I mean, if you're having a problem with seeing that on the Internet, maybe stay away from things like /pol/? When /pol/ stops fucking invading every other space on the internet then we'll talk[2017-7-13. : 3:25 pm] Pr0nogo -- why do we need to enlist the assistance of the government or the media?[2017-7-13. : 3:25 pm] thekian -- I mean, if you're having a problem with seeing that on the Internet, maybe stay away from things like /pol/? [2017-7-13. : 3:24 pm] Voyager7456 -- And there's a simple solution for that - don't spew that kind of shit on the internet if you're worried that your life would be ruined if it got out[2017-7-13. : 3:23 pm] Voyager7456 -- Advocating for genocide and white supremacy is not just a "different opinion"[2017-7-13. : 3:23 pm] Pr0nogo -- please correct me if i'm wrong, because i suspect you don't actually believe that and this is just how you've explained yourself[2017-7-13. : 3:22 pm] Pr0nogo -- at least as far as I can tell, you just want them to suffer if they have different opinions[2017-7-13. : 3:22 pm] thekian -- Pr0nogoPr0nogo shouted: Voyager7456 it draws into question the legitimacy of any reported crime *ahem* Kunspiricy theorist!11!!1!!![2017-7-13. : 3:22 pm] poiuy_qwert -- FaRTy1billionFaRTy1billion shouted: actually, disregard that ... sometimes it is >= count is none, because I had to fix a bunch of those because they made it so extended entries were ignored xD FaRTy1billionFaRTy1billion shouted: but the value is always the very specific number Cool, i'll stick with 65535[2017-7-13. : 3:22 pm] Pr0nogo -- Voyager7456Voyager7456 shouted: Pr0nogo Oh no, people are facing legal consequences for making bomb threats. you're asking the news to ruin people's lives for far less than bomb threats LMAO[2017-7-13. : 3:21 pm] Pr0nogo -- Voyager7456Voyager7456 shouted: Pr0nogo Even if every one of these is true, that's not a significant fraction. it draws into question the legitimacy of any reported crime[2017-7-13. : 3:21 pm] O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- FaRTy1billionFaRTy1billion shouted: Voyager7456 for some reason I already misinterpret ACLU as UCLA and am confused thinking "What does UCLA have to do with ... ?" always*[2017-7-13. : 3:20 pm] thekian -- Voyager7456Voyager7456 shouted: Pr0nogo Oh no, people are facing legal consequences for making bomb threats. You mean 'clock threats', right?[2017-7-13. : 3:20 pm] O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- Voyager7456Voyager7456 shouted: Roy I donate to the ACLU which intends to sue, so I guess I already have. for some reason I already misinterpret ACLU as UCLA and am confused thinking "What does UCLA have to do with ... ?"[2017-7-13. : 3:20 pm] Voyager7456 -- Pr0nogoPr0nogo shouted: Voyager7456 i hope they feel safer knowing that their freedom of speech is conditional on someone else not feeling unsafe Oh no, people are facing legal consequences for making bomb threats.[2017-7-13. : 3:19 pm] Voyager7456 -- Pr0nogoPr0nogo shouted: Voyager7456 http://www.fakehatecrimes.org/ Even if every one of these is true, that's not a significant fraction.[2017-7-13. : 3:18 pm] Pr0nogo -- Voyager7456Voyager7456 shouted: Pr0nogo You replied to the comment about my friends receiving death threats, so my response was to that. i hope they feel safer knowing that their freedom of speech is conditional on someone else not feeling unsafe[2017-7-13. : 3:17 pm] Voyager7456 -- RoyRoy shouted: You should get in on the inevitable lawsuit, then. I donate to the ACLU which intends to sue, so I guess I already have.[2017-7-13. : 3:16 pm] Voyager7456 -- Pr0nogoPr0nogo shouted: Voyager7456 we are talking about the same things, right? "incidents" of people saying racist shit on the internet? LMAO You replied to the comment about my friends receiving death threats, so my response was to that.[2017-7-13. : 3:16 pm] O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- actually, disregard that ... sometimes it is >= count is none, because I had to fix a bunch of those because they made it so extended entries were ignored xD[2017-7-13. : 3:16 pm] Voyager7456 -- RoyRoy shouted: Voyager7456 If you're talking about that controversial Arizona immigration law in 2012, you'll be happy to know that stopping people for papers was repealed last year. I'm talking about the one Texas is trying to pass right now[2017-7-13. : 3:15 pm] Roy -- Voyager7456Voyager7456 shouted: Racism isn't rampant or tolerated? We have fucking Congressmen talking about the need to "preserve white civilization." States are passing laws that let them stop people on the streets for their papers for no reason at all. We have a vocal and active white supremacist movement infiltrating all sorts of spaces online. If you're talking about that controversial Arizona immigration law in 2012, you'll be happy to know that stopping people for papers was repealed last year.[2017-7-13. : 3:15 pm] Pr0nogo -- the day the cops can knock down my door and arrest me because i wrote an edgy joke on twitter is the day i... go to jail because i have no self defense skills and no contingency plan for that to happen[2017-7-13. : 3:14 pm] O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- FaRTy1billionFaRTy1billion shouted: poiuy_qwert also no dat does it this way. In units exactly 228 is 'none', in weapons exactly 130 is 'none', etc. er, I mean no dat does > (count -1)[2017-7-13. : 3:14 pm] Pr0nogo -- Voyager7456Voyager7456 shouted: Pr0nogo The incidents were considered credible enough to provoke police action. They weren't just "internet trolls" we are talking about the same things, right? "incidents" of people saying racist shit on the internet? LMAO[2017-7-13. : 3:14 pm] O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- poiuy_qwertpoiuy_qwert shouted: so SC is doing an == 65535 type thing not a > 109? also no dat does it this way. In units exactly 228 is 'none', in weapons exactly 130 is 'none', etc.[2017-7-13. : 3:13 pm] Voyager7456 -- Pr0nogoPr0nogo shouted: Voyager7456 as for the other two points you made in this shout, there's no argument in favor of stopping people for their papers, anyone who tries to defend that is a moron, but that isn't new to trump's america; and again, verifying intent with internet trolls is an exercise in futility The incidents were considered credible enough to provoke police action. They weren't just "internet trolls"[2017-7-13. : 3:13 pm] poiuy_qwert -- np, I'll check it out later. and now that I think about it I do remember seeing a 65535 at some point, so I don't doubt you are right[2017-7-13. : 3:13 pm] Pr0nogo -- Voyager7456Voyager7456 shouted: Pr0nogo "a huge number" http://www.fakehatecrimes.org/[2017-7-13. : 3:12 pm] O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- cool, I did indeed find it. FFFF confirmed "None", and I was wrong -- it's sfxdata that uses 0 for "None". Portdata is 0-based[2017-7-13. : 3:12 pm] Pr0nogo -- Voyager7456Voyager7456 shouted: Racism isn't rampant or tolerated? We have fucking Congressmen talking about the need to "preserve white civilization." States are passing laws that let them stop people on the streets for their papers for no reason at all. We have a vocal and active white supremacist movement infiltrating all sorts of spaces online. as for the other two points you made in this shout, there's no argument in favor of stopping people for their papers, anyone who tries to defend that is a moron, but that isn't new to trump's america; and again, verifying intent with internet trolls is an exercise in futility[2017-7-13. : 3:11 pm] Voyager7456 -- Pr0nogoPr0nogo shouted: Voyager7456 http://lmgtfy.com/?q=fake+hate+crimes+since+election "a huge number"[2017-7-13. : 3:11 pm] O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- I tried looking at units.dat to see if it is indeed FFFF, but I have to get ready for work and don't have time to pick through it xD[2017-7-13. : 3:10 pm] Pr0nogo -- Voyager7456Voyager7456 shouted: Pr0nogo [citation needed] http://lmgtfy.com/?q=fake+hate+crimes+since+election[2017-7-13. : 3:10 pm] Pr0nogo -- Voyager7456Voyager7456 shouted: Racism isn't rampant or tolerated? We have fucking Congressmen talking about the need to "preserve white civilization." States are passing laws that let them stop people on the streets for their papers for no reason at all. We have a vocal and active white supremacist movement infiltrating all sorts of spaces online. idiot congressmen on the religious right have always said stupid bullshit, i see no evidence that it's "on the rise"[2017-7-13. : 3:10 pm] O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- poiuy_qwertpoiuy_qwert shouted: so SC is doing an == 65535 type thing not a > 109? I believe so[2017-7-13. : 3:08 pm] Voyager7456 -- Pr0nogoPr0nogo shouted: Voyager7456 a huge number of these have been POC/leftists self-sabotaging for attention, which brings any numbers into scrutiny. internet trolls are hardly a serious issue [citation needed][2017-7-13. : 3:08 pm] Pr0nogo -- Voyager7456Voyager7456 shouted: SPLC and other organizations have measured a rise in hate crimes in the past year. We've seen a number high-profile incidents in recent memory, and on a personal note I have friends who work for Jewish organizations who have gotten a significant uptick in the amount of death threats they receive. a huge number of these have been POC/leftists self-sabotaging for attention, which brings any numbers into scrutiny. internet trolls are hardly a serious issue[2017-7-13. : 3:07 pm] O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- I'm pretty sure 65535 specifically is "None", because other values will crash[2017-7-13. : 3:06 pm] poiuy_qwert -- maybe i'll just turn off the limits and make the dropdown support ids > max just clamping it to "None"...[2017-7-13. : 3:06 pm] O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- I can't really look too heavily because I just woke up xD[2017-7-13. : 3:05 pm] poiuy_qwert -- i'll have to look into it again when I get home. it makes things annoying though since my text field validation only supports contiguous ranges for validation [2017-7-13. : 3:05 pm] Voyager7456 -- Racism isn't rampant or tolerated? We have fucking Congressmen talking about the need to "preserve white civilization." States are passing laws that let them stop people on the streets for their papers for no reason at all. We have a vocal and active white supremacist movement infiltrating all sorts of spaces online.[2017-7-13. : 3:04 pm] O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- but ya, looking at my "+1" dat files, "None" is pushed down to (115)*2+1[2017-7-13. : 3:04 pm] Voyager7456 -- SPLC and other organizations have measured a rise in hate crimes in the past year. We've seen a number high-profile incidents in recent memory, and on a personal note I have friends who work for Jewish organizations who have gotten a significant uptick in the amount of death threats they receive.[2017-7-13. : 3:03 pm] O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- oh wiat, sfxdata is 1-based (because I think entry #0 is none)[2017-7-13. : 3:02 pm] O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- poiuy_qwertpoiuy_qwert shouted: FaRTy, I realized why dat editors treat the portdata as 3 long arrays instead of 2 sets of 3 arrays. units.dat seems to use id 220 to represent None for its portdata reference, instead of 110 I think DatEdit does that. "None" is 0 (I think they are 1-based)[2017-7-13. : 3:02 pm] Voyager7456 -- Pr0nogoPr0nogo shouted: unless you've bought into the narrative that hate crimes are up and racism is rampant throughout america, which is demonstrably false, there's no reason to ask for drastic steps like having the news and media step in to ruin people's lives I'm gonna have to go ahead and completely disagree with this.[2017-7-13. : 2:58 pm] Pr0nogo -- in an era where people get called nazis for not siding with a particular political ideology, what you're proposing is incredibly dangerous[2017-7-13. : 2:58 pm] Pr0nogo -- unless you've bought into the narrative that hate crimes are up and racism is rampant throughout america, which is demonstrably false, there's no reason to ask for drastic steps like having the news and media step in to ruin people's lives |
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