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[2017-9-15. : 5:01 pm]  IskatuMesk -- Oh_ManOh_Man shouted: he uses a 'template' so the systems are very similar/identical but just the storyline changes. HE dropped 1k USD on voice acting though which is quite impressive sounds like someone doesn't know how to manage money LMAO[2017-9-15. : 4:51 pm]  Oh_Man -- lmao that is the main character, I agree he's probably the blandest of all the voices - the others are much more emotive[2017-9-15. : 4:51 pm] Dem0n -- The dude who voiced that clip he posted in the thread sounded like Microsoft Sam. Completely monotone and had no emotion at all.[2017-9-15. : 4:50 pm] Oh_Man -- he uses a 'template' so the systems are very similar/identical but just the storyline changes. HE dropped 1k USD on voice acting though which is quite impressive[2017-9-15. : 4:42 pm] Oh_Man -- Just finished MEtalGear's RPG - nice!! uploading my review/playthrough vid now (2hours)[2017-9-15. : 4:41 pm] NudeRaider -- my personal conclusion is: Releasing maps open source is 'the right thing to do', as it best helps the community. But it is also the 'right thing to do' to respect the wishes of those who disagree because that's ethical.[2017-9-15. : 4:38 pm]  O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- tell moose to install 32 bit libc or whatever so I can just compile them as-is xD[2017-9-15. : 4:33 pm] NudeRaider -- probably hit and miss depending on how badly the site is overloaded at that moment.[2017-9-15. : 4:32 pm] NudeRaider -- Dem0nDem0n shouted: who needs a DLDB policy when it doesn't even work LMAO I've heard of problems, but last time I used it, it actually worked.[2017-9-15. : 4:32 pm] Dem0n -- like you're actually dumb AF if you upload to the DLDB and not somewhere with proper uploading/downloading capabilities[2017-9-15. : 4:31 pm] O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- RoyRoy shouted: We could just make it so all submissions require staff approval, and then we as staff would do what we do best and ignore the giant, growing backlog of work that needs to be done. just like the good ol' days   [2017-9-15. : 4:31 pm] NudeRaider -- RoyRoy shouted: We could just make it so all submissions require staff approval, and then we as staff would do what we do best and ignore the giant, growing backlog of work that needs to be done.  [2017-9-15. : 4:31 pm] Roy -- We could just make it so all submissions require staff approval, and then we as staff would do what we do best and ignore the giant, growing backlog of work that needs to be done. [2017-9-15. : 4:30 pm] NudeRaider -- RoyRoy shouted: A fair compromise would be to completely wipe our DLDB, make the policy change, and then prevent anyone from uploading work that isn't their own, unless they have the written consent of the original author that they're fine with their work hosted on a site that no longer has a policy against map unprotection. ya good luck on enforcing the new DLDB policy  [2017-9-15. : 4:28 pm] NudeRaider -- lil-Infernolil-Inferno shouted: Voyager7456 Tbh this debate happens semiannually and never reaches any new conclusion LMAO it always reaches the conclusion that there's good reasons why the policy exist and that the desire to forcibly make all maps open source is not helping enough to justify the ethic implications, considering there are other ways.[2017-9-15. : 4:27 pm] Roy -- A fair compromise would be to completely wipe our DLDB, make the policy change, and then prevent anyone from uploading work that isn't their own, unless they have the written consent of the original author that they're fine with their work hosted on a site that no longer has a policy against map unprotection.[2017-9-15. : 4:19 pm] NudeRaider -- lil-Infernolil-Inferno shouted: it was a meme, chill lil-Infernolil-Inferno shouted: the more underscores in the face, the more of a meme it is LMAO oh so you are allowed to make sarcastic remarks, and I can't comment as long as you made sure to use a lot of underscores? O.o[2017-9-15. : 4:18 pm] NudeRaider -- Voyager7456Voyager7456 shouted: Tbh this policy does nothing but artificially inflate barrier to entry in a time when we should be encouraging community growth as much as possible if you don't join SEN because I'm not gonna help you steal maps, but tell you to elaborate on what you need so I can tell you what you need AND offer you a tool that gives what you requested without violating policy then you are a tool and will probably not be missed by anyone. This is weighed vs. the people that would rather not upload their map to SEN when they can't be sure it won't be stolen.[2017-9-15. : 4:17 pm] Vrael -- Voyager7456Voyager7456 shouted: Look, a brand-new account well I'll be damned[2017-9-15. : 4:08 pm] lil-Inferno -- the more underscores in the face, the more of a meme it is LMAO[2017-9-15. : 4:02 pm] NudeRaider -- lil-Infernolil-Inferno shouted: Am I gonna get retroactively banned for what I did as an 8 year old O________________O I have no idea why you would say that because that has nothing to with either what I or someone else said nor is it the actual policy.[2017-9-15. : 4:01 pm] Voyager7456 -- This nertysawera bloke seems like a great addition to the community[2017-9-15. : 4:01 pm] Voyager7456 -- VraelVrael shouted: besides 'inflate barrier to entry' - who is trying to join SEN nowadays lolololol http://www.staredit.net/profile/15436/[2017-9-15. : 3:57 pm] Vrael -- besides 'inflate barrier to entry' - who is trying to join SEN nowadays lolololol[2017-9-15. : 3:51 pm] lil-Inferno -- Voyager7456Voyager7456 shouted: Tbh this policy does nothing but artificially inflate barrier to entry in a time when we should be encouraging community growth as much as possible Tbh this debate happens semiannually and never reaches any new conclusion LMAO[2017-9-15. : 3:45 pm] O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- Voyager7456Voyager7456 shouted: Tbh this policy does nothing but artificially inflate barrier to entry in a time when we should be encouraging community growth as much as possible should I make a mod protector? xD[2017-9-15. : 3:41 pm] Vrael -- Voyager7456Voyager7456 shouted: Tbh this policy does nothing but artificially inflate barrier to entry in a time when we should be encouraging community growth as much as possible why on earth would we want to encourage community growth? I dun wan no new turds hangin' round her[2017-9-15. : 3:37 pm] Voyager7456 -- Tbh this policy does nothing but artificially inflate barrier to entry in a time when we should be encouraging community growth as much as possible[2017-9-15. : 3:12 pm] lil-Inferno -- Am I gonna get retroactively banned for what I did as an 8 year old O________________O[2017-9-15. : 12:04 pm] NudeRaider -- Pr0nogoPr0nogo shouted: NudeRaider "forcing your way into a map that was protected for whatever reason, is overriding the standards of a person who thinks differently than you." if you have a fundamental disagreement with their standards, I see no reason to do anything different. this is basically an argument against piracy imo. "SEN decided that we want no part in that" clearly SEN is not in 100% agreement anymore, if they ever were Yes, it's piracy. Also friendly reminder that SEN isn't a democrazy. And whoever is in charge of SEN these days hasn't changed their policy to value the opinions of people who want to use SENs service higher over those who trusted SEN with their contribution. And frankly I'd be irritated if that ever changes.[2017-9-15. : 11:47 am] jjf28 -- Pr0nogoPr0nogo shouted: NudeRaider "forcing your way into a map that was protected for whatever reason, is overriding the standards of a person who thinks differently than you." if you have a fundamental disagreement with their standards, I see no reason to do anything different. this is basically an argument against piracy imo. "SEN decided that we want no part in that" clearly SEN is not in 100% agreement anymore, if they ever were a gag order also overrides the standards of people who think differently  [2017-9-15. : 9:56 am] Moose -- Oh_ManOh_Man shouted: I'm gon b honest with yall I protect maps just go tilt Prongo LMAO[2017-9-15. : 8:34 am] IskatuMesk -- That said, I've always treated projects as an island away from communities. I'll happily reverse engineer anything I want, but I won't inquire about the process of doing so on a distribution board (something like Xentax is more fitting).[2017-9-15. : 8:31 am] IskatuMesk -- The only exception I draw is with people like those koreans that take shit without even so much as providing credit.[2017-9-15. : 8:30 am] IskatuMesk -- "Source is available via reverse engineering" has been our stance on the matter. If you're skilled enough to reverse engineer our work then you've the right to learn from it. For AO I provided the exception and that was it.[2017-9-15. : 7:35 am] O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- because triggerviewer showed units and locations or something at one point and that was disallowed[2017-9-15. : 7:35 am] O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- I think CHK opening protected maps is enough. Back when OSMap was a big deal that would have been deemed too unprotected and been disallowed xD[2017-9-15. : 6:44 am] Pr0nogo -- NudeRaiderNudeRaider shouted: m.0.n.3.y It's about respecting other's work. And against forcing your own belief on others against their will. Personally, all work I've ever published I didn't protect, with the expressed intent so people can learn from it or improve on in to make a better map for everyone. But I do not expect everyone to be on that same train of thought. And forcing your way into a map that was protected for whatever reason, is overriding the standards of a person who thinks differently than you. If you think this is a desireable goal, fine. I won't even think less of you. But SEN decided that we want no part in that. We will help you learn in other ways, if you care to do more than just complain in the shoutbox. Also Roy "forcing your way into a map that was protected for whatever reason, is overriding the standards of a person who thinks differently than you." if you have a fundamental disagreement with their standards, I see no reason to do anything different. this is basically an argument against piracy imo. "SEN decided that we want no part in that" clearly SEN is not in 100% agreement anymore, if they ever were[2017-9-15. : 5:46 am] O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- also most things can be repeated, so assistance forums or whatever can help with the learning aspect[2017-9-15. : 5:42 am] NudeRaider -- m.0.n.3.ym.0.n.3.y shouted: Mini Moose 2707 Meh, can't figure it out. It's a rar file that doesn't work on winrar... Whatever, I just wanted to learn how someone triggered something. But I guess we like to stifle learning here. Thanks It's about respecting other's work. And against forcing your own belief on others against their will. Personally, all work I've ever published I didn't protect, with the expressed intent so people can learn from it or improve on in to make a better map for everyone. But I do not expect everyone to be on that same train of thought. And forcing your way into a map that was protected for whatever reason, is overriding the standards of a person who thinks differently than you. If you think this is a desireable goal, fine. I won't even think less of you. But SEN decided that we want no part in that. We will help you learn in other ways, if you care to do more than just complain in the shoutbox. Also RoyRoy shouted: m.0.n.3.y Trigger Viewer. [2017-9-15. : 5:20 am] Oh_Man -- VraelVrael shouted: about all the progress I haven't made? To inform ppl its over. Don't b like Gabe Newell with HL3 ;([2017-9-15. : 4:37 am] IskatuMesk -- VraelVrael shouted: who me? or thekian? I'm raging over OSX even though I'm using Python fistful of dicks in one hand and tasty feet fungus in the other[2017-9-15. : 4:28 am] Voyager7456 -- lil-Infernolil-Inferno shouted: with well written code O_O lil-Infernolil-Inferno shouted: Mini Moose 2707 Careful, you might encourage someone to start their own pro open source SC website LMAO[2017-9-15. : 4:04 am] Pr0nogo -- it's an unfounded myth that does nothing but pointlessly raise the barrier of entry[2017-9-15. : 3:15 am] Roy -- Mini Moose 2707Mini Moose 2707 shouted: Ya, but it's still a meme that we can't provide links to them on this site for some reason. X^D Or it's a legitimate concern that was held by mapmakers who entrusted this site to host their work to not also promote the exploitation of modifying said work.[2017-9-15. : 3:11 am] jjf28 -- chkdraft will also open a ton of maps, if it falls under methods I consider protected it will open as view only[2017-9-15. : 3:08 am] Roy -- m.0.n.3.ym.0.n.3.y shouted: Mini Moose 2707 Meh, can't figure it out. It's a rar file that doesn't work on winrar... Whatever, I just wanted to learn how someone triggered something. But I guess we like to stifle learning here. Thanks Trigger Viewer. |
, where are the map parsers at O_O
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