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[2017-12-08. : 6:33 pm]
Zoan -- I'm saying what's true, and all you've said is "Well these people believe other stuff, and they would say what they believe is true!"
[2017-12-08. : 6:32 pm]
Pr0nogo -- it's also a fact that you can't wear mixed fabrics without being put to death, i presume you don't also hold that religious belief near and dear
[2017-12-08. : 6:32 pm]
Zoan -- No it would still be true even if I didn't think so
[2017-12-08. : 6:32 pm]
Pr0nogo -- according to yu
[2017-12-08. : 6:32 pm]
Zoan -- -_- which is true
[2017-12-08. : 6:32 pm]
Pr0nogo -- according to the bible
[2017-12-08. : 6:31 pm]
Zoan -- According to what's true, yea
[2017-12-08. : 6:31 pm]
Pr0nogo -- it's a fact according to the bible, sure
[2017-12-08. : 6:31 pm]
Zoan -- But from my view it's not just a religious text, it's all true. And thus, it's a fact that sex outside of marriage is wrong
[2017-12-08. : 6:31 pm]
Pr0nogo -- if we don't grant muslims that their religious text should be codified, we can't grant that to christians or jews either
[2017-12-08. : 6:30 pm]
Zoan -- Yea dude, and that's the position that Muslims have - that the Koran is true and that the bible is mostly lies
[2017-12-08. : 6:30 pm]
Pr0nogo -- doesn't really matter what you believe about it man, that's what i'm saying
[2017-12-08. : 6:29 pm]
Zoan -- I don't believe the bible is 'just a religious text'
[2017-12-08. : 6:29 pm]
Pr0nogo -- it's the exact same words you said, except replacing the religious text in question
[2017-12-08. : 6:29 pm]
Zoan -- It's all different world-views
[2017-12-08. : 6:29 pm]
Zoan -- Correct, but they're wrong because what is said in the Koran IS mostly lies
[2017-12-08. : 6:28 pm]
Pr0nogo -- which it is, in muslim-dominant countries, and i don't agree with it there either
[2017-12-08. : 6:28 pm]
Pr0nogo -- the same exact argument could easily be used from the perspective of a muslim who believes what the koran says is true, that it's all factual, and as such sharia law should be legislated
[2017-12-08. : 6:28 pm]
Pr0nogo -- it is just your religious belief because the bible is just a religious text, and interpreting it in the context of your religion is part of a religious practice
[2017-12-08. : 6:27 pm]
Zoan -- But I don't think you're getting it - I believe that what the bible says is true, that it's all factual. So it's not just my religious belief
[2017-12-08. : 6:27 pm]
Pr0nogo -- which is a religious text
[2017-12-08. : 6:26 pm]
Zoan -- Yes, that's the source where we know absolutely that it's wrong
[2017-12-08. : 6:26 pm]
Zoan -- What, do you want me to say it's written explicitely in the bible?
[2017-12-08. : 6:25 pm]
Pr0nogo -- and you base that on...?
[2017-12-08. : 6:24 pm]
Zoan -- Based on the fact that sex was designed to be between a man and his wife
[2017-12-08. : 6:24 pm]
Pr0nogo -- it's morally wrong based on...?
[2017-12-08. : 6:23 pm]
Zoan -- you're asking what is based on what?
[2017-12-08. : 6:23 pm]
Zoan -- what do you mean based on?
[2017-12-08. : 6:22 pm]
Pr0nogo -- based on?
[2017-12-08. : 6:22 pm]
Zoan -- I don't believe they are just 'my religious beliefs' though - it's a fact that sex outside of marriage is morally wrong
[2017-12-08. : 6:22 pm]
Pr0nogo -- you're free to believe something is sick/amoral/etc but your preferences should not be legislation
[2017-12-08. : 6:22 pm]
Pr0nogo -- your religious beliefs shouldn't be legislated
[2017-12-08. : 6:20 pm]
Zoan -- There should be no sex outside of marriage
[2017-12-08. : 6:20 pm]
Zoan -- Also I'm pretty sure they do everything they can to promote a culture where people can safely have sex outside of marriage, which I believe is sick and wrong
[2017-12-08. : 6:19 pm]
Zoan -- Pr0nogo
Pr0nogo shouted: e.g. "what other than abortions do you find in planned parenthood that is distasteful in your opinion"
I don't know what planned parenthood does, but I know they do abortions, so I don't want them getting money.
[2017-12-08. : 6:18 pm]
Zoan -- NudeRaider
NudeRaider shouted: Zoan how is confusing newbies 'perfect'?
It's akin to people saying 'fix all the bugs in SC - we want better pathing, we want automining.' Though I'm also partly joking, it would be super nice to have map making made easier.
[2017-12-08. : 6:17 pm]
Pr0nogo -- e.g. "what other than abortions do you find in planned parenthood that is distasteful in your opinion"
[2017-12-08. : 6:16 pm]
Pr0nogo -- dem0n may not have phrased his challenges as questions but you can easily read them as questions and then respond with answers you think are sufficient
[2017-12-08. : 6:14 pm]
Zoan -- No I'll share my opinion and state why I have it if you all want, but I don't wanna spend the time defending it against people who will automatically attack it no matter what
[2017-12-08. : 6:13 pm]
Zoan -- Yeah, it would be a whole lotta effort and no one is going to change their minds on "Trump sucks"
[2017-12-08. : 6:13 pm]
Pr0nogo -- that's fine if that's the case, but if you don't want your opinion to be challenged or criticized, don't share it in the open marketplace of ideas
[2017-12-08. : 6:13 pm]
Pr0nogo -- i just see you being challenged on what you say and not willing to commit to a discussion
[2017-12-08. : 6:12 pm]
Zoan -- Dem0n
Dem0n shouted: Zoan Planned Parenthood barely does abortions. Most of their funding goes to other things. But w/e
Dem0n
Dem0n shouted: Also idk how destroying one ISIS base means he's successful in his plan to defeat ISIS
omfg see what I mean by "I kinda don't wanna say because it will all be uniformly shot down" :lol:
[2017-12-08. : 6:11 pm]
Zoan -- Yea but sex outside of marriage is a sin
[2017-12-08. : 6:00 pm]
O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- Zoan
Zoan shouted: So to use EUD's, some of which are now officially supported, we still have to write triggers that look liike nonsense (like the memory thing condition, and setting deaths to blah blah blah for actions)?
they emulate 1.16.1 EUDs, so as to support existing EUD maps. I think it's cool
[2017-12-08. : 6:00 pm]
O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- Zoan
Zoan shouted: Shit why did this have to happen during finals
ikr
[2017-12-08. : 5:10 pm]
NudeRaider -- Zoan
Zoan shouted: Suicidal Insanity Naw I love it the way it is, it's like an advanced mapping technique that will confuse everyone who tries to get into mapping and do all this cool stuff. It's perfect :D
how is confusing newbies 'perfect'?
[2017-12-08. : 4:57 pm]
Dem0n -- Also idk how destroying one ISIS base means he's successful in his plan to defeat ISIS
[2017-12-08. : 4:56 pm]
Dem0n -- Zoan
Zoan shouted: He also is anti-abortion and I know has done stuff to defund organizations like planned parenthood
Planned Parenthood barely does abortions. Most of their funding goes to other things. But w/e
[2017-12-08. : 4:51 pm]
Pr0nogo -- my concern re: abortion is centered solely around the children involved, i also think that medical contraceptives (i.e. not condoms) seem to have side effects that are probably not great for development
[2017-12-08. : 4:50 pm]
lil-Inferno -- abstinence education and no public availability of contraception can only be harmful
[2017-12-08. : 4:50 pm]
Pr0nogo -- well, basically the same thing i guess
[2017-12-08. : 4:50 pm]
Pr0nogo -- i think that it's just as flawed as promoting abstinence though
[2017-12-08. : 4:49 pm]
Pr0nogo -- i have sex outside of wedlock and i wouldn't expect anyone in this day and age to limit themselves to waiting until marriage, but it's a surefire way to prevent disease and babies
[2017-12-08. : 4:49 pm]
lil-Inferno -- the only people who preach no sex before marriage are the people not getting any lmao
[2017-12-08. : 4:46 pm]
lil-Inferno -- ya
[2017-12-08. : 4:46 pm]
Heinermann -- Zoan I hope that is either sarcasm or a troll, can't tell.
[2017-12-08. : 4:44 pm]
Zoan -- eh nevermind
[2017-12-08. : 4:44 pm]
Zoan -- well also unwanted kids
[2017-12-08. : 4:43 pm]
Zoan -- Right because there's no good reason for kids not to have sex outside of marriage apart from that fact that it's morally wrong
[2017-12-08. : 4:42 pm]
Pr0nogo -- defunding planned parenthood would be nice, providing better sex ed to encourage millennials to stop having unwanted kids would be even better, but few politicians seem to bother with education anymore
[2017-12-08. : 4:40 pm]
Pr0nogo -- president's power is fairly limited, a lot of the promises every candidate makes are just to get them in the door and aren't delivered either because they never intended to or because doing so is unfeasible
[2017-12-08. : 4:39 pm]
Zoan -- Also he's a good president because he's delivered on many of his campaign promises, and I expect he'll deliever on the rest when it's feasible to
[2017-12-08. : 4:37 pm]
Zoan -- He also is anti-abortion and I know has done stuff to defund organizations like planned parenthood
[2017-12-08. : 4:35 pm]
Zoan -- Also remember when that ISIS base was destroyed? That was nice
[2017-12-08. : 4:33 pm]
Zoan -- Here http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-41596847 The stock market value has risen a bunch, and the growth of US debt is decreasing (headed in the right direction)
[2017-12-08. : 4:29 pm]
Zoan -- I want to make a SC map with EUD actions now goddammit
[2017-12-08. : 4:28 pm]
lil-Inferno -- unless you're so insecure in why you think he's a good president that you don't wanna say anything but w/e
[2017-12-08. : 4:28 pm]
lil-Inferno -- ya but can you qualify that
[2017-12-08. : 4:28 pm]
Zoan -- ok, but also whatever, he is a good president

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