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[2018-1-11. : 5:57 pm] MTiger156 -- After a long silence, I'm back with a new map http://www.staredit.net/topic/17530/[2018-1-11. : 3:37 pm]  jjf28 -- navigating through a 3d maze where you're constantly changing the water level?[2018-1-11. : 3:34 pm] lil-Inferno -- jjf28jjf28 shouted: lil-Inferno it doesn't have all that much replay value cause you've already know the puzzles and all and the combat is fairly bland once you know what's going on - finding the solutions is the fun in Zelda-style games What puzzles? Shooting an arrow into some eye thing isn't a puzzle.[2018-1-11. : 3:33 pm] jjf28 -- despite adoring portal 1 I can't really enjoy it that much knowing what I need to do[2018-1-11. : 3:32 pm] jjf28 -- lil-Infernolil-Inferno shouted: No. Judging by that list Ocarina of Time is the best game ever made. Have you ever played it in your adulthood? It's not fun at all. it doesn't have all that much replay value cause you've already know the puzzles and all and the combat is fairly bland once you know what's going on - finding the solutions is the fun in Zelda-style games[2018-1-11. : 3:26 pm] NudeRaider -- lil-Infernolil-Inferno shouted: No. Judging by that list Ocarina of Time is the best game ever made. Have you ever played it in your adulthood? It's not fun at all. I'm afraid I have to admit that I haven't played any Zelda games.  I found lots of other games way up that list that I knew though.[2018-1-11. : 3:22 pm] NudeRaider -- lil-Infernolil-Inferno shouted: I haven't played Breath of the Wild, but you'd be hard-pressed to convince anyone it's only better graphically than games made 20 years prior well I can agree that the amount of features and "todos" (aka scale) are increasing for games that make it a selling point. It's slow but it does. The question is if these features make these games better? I'd argue more often than not, they don't. AC series comes to mind. Only a few exceptions manage to put out games where the extra features are actually a fun part of game play and don't end up being a chore half-way in. On the other hand, games that have few features, but really good core gameplay can be incredibly fun, even after hundreds of hours. Mario Kart comes to mind.[2018-1-11. : 3:10 pm] lil-Inferno -- I haven't played Breath of the Wild, but you'd be hard-pressed to convince anyone it's only better graphically than games made 20 years prior[2018-1-11. : 3:07 pm] lil-Inferno -- No. Judging by that list Ocarina of Time is the best game ever made. Have you ever played it in your adulthood? It's not fun at all.[2018-1-11. : 3:07 pm] NudeRaider -- lil-Infernolil-Inferno shouted: ...keep in mind that those scores were aggregated at the time of those games' release. ... reinforcing my point that it's only graphics that improved.[2018-1-11. : 2:31 pm] lil-Inferno -- ...keep in mind that those scores were aggregated at the time of those games' release.[2018-1-11. : 10:43 am] NudeRaider -- also look at that list: http://www.metacritic.com/browse/games/score/metascore/all/all/filtered There's no indication that newer games are better.[2018-1-11. : 10:37 am] NudeRaider -- Wing ZeroWing Zero shouted: NudeRaider He did say practically And I say no, because the improvements are only in presentation (and for a few exceptional games in scale) only because better hardware/tools exist.[2018-1-11. : 7:29 am]  Pr0nogo -- It may be less frequent than when we were kids but there are still more games in total that will appeal to you.[2018-1-11. : 7:28 am] Pr0nogo -- But as with any form of art/media, there has never been a time where as many genuinely fun games exist, other than right now.[2018-1-11. : 7:27 am] Pr0nogo -- Problem with game devs is the market for sure, at least that's a big problem. If people were only driven by passion we'd have a lot less games, but the titles would generally be better, and certainly more honest.[2018-1-11. : 6:44 am] Wing Zero -- I feel like your complaint about lacking heart is caused by the people that pay for the game development forcing cookie cutter builds that are proven to sell instead of allowing risks with something more creative[2018-1-11. : 6:38 am] Wing Zero -- NudeRaiderNudeRaider shouted: Dem0n not really. Many many games today are lacking heart and thought. They are just thrown together with tools that make them fancy. Case in point: At Christmas Steam sale I bought the shadowrun series (pen and paper adaption rp)for 10€ and those games have simple isometric prerendered environment with low res 3d characters. There's no flashy cutscenes and the dialog isn't even voiced, so you have to read it all. But it's well narrated, and creates a nice mood with the graphics. Each character feels actually like they have personality. You even take guys with you on missions that are worse than others, just because you like them. Basically everything is playing in your mind and the game is just the template. That's really engaging and I ended up playing that more than all the other fancy titles I can fully enjoy now after I upgreded my CPU. He did say practically[2018-1-11. : 6:09 am] NudeRaider -- also fuck skins and micro transactions  But I understand why they do it. And as long as I can get (most of) them with in-game currency it's also fine with me.[2018-1-11. : 6:07 am] NudeRaider -- Dem0nDem0n shouted: Games cost $60 ten years ago yet have improved exponentially in practically every aspect not really. Many many games today are lacking heart and thought. They are just thrown together with tools that make them fancy. Case in point: At Christmas Steam sale I bought the shadowrun series (pen and paper adaption rp)for 10€ and those games have simple isometric prerendered environment with low res 3d characters. There's no flashy cutscenes and the dialog isn't even voiced, so you have to read it all. But it's well narrated, and creates a nice mood with the graphics. Each character feels actually like they have personality. You even take guys with you on missions that are worse than others, just because you like them. Basically everything is playing in your mind and the game is just the template. That's really engaging and I ended up playing that more than all the other fancy titles I can fully enjoy now after I upgreded my CPU.[2018-1-11. : 6:00 am] KrayZee -- Late 90's and early 2000's, we see excessive amount of expansion packs and annual sports games. 2005 was the beginning of priced DLC, normally $5 or less.[2018-1-11. : 5:58 am] KrayZee -- Dem0nDem0n shouted: Games cost $60 ten years ago yet have improved exponentially in practically every aspect And beyond 10 years, $50 was considered the stock price for newly released since the early 90's.[2018-1-11. : 4:35 am] Dem0n -- Games cost $60 ten years ago yet have improved exponentially in practically every aspect[2018-1-11. : 4:34 am] lil-Inferno -- You used to not get games for like under $60 and it was w/e, now niggas be like "smh over $10"[2018-1-11. : 4:31 am] Dem0n -- People buy games that should honestly cost way more than $60 (less than, even) for the amount of time and effort that went into making it and then get mad that they have to pay $10 for extra stuff lmao[2018-1-11. : 4:30 am] Dem0n -- Mini Moose 2707Mini Moose 2707 shouted: So don't buy them LMAO Niggas think they're entitled to shit lmao[2018-1-11. : 4:17 am]  O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- lil-Infernolil-Inferno shouted: what kind of retard buys skins lmao I get mine from my good neighbor and friend Ted[2018-1-11. : 4:13 am] KrayZee -- Oh_ManOh_Man shouted: yeah wat a rip, they aren't even special skins either, like legendaries, they're just the default skin with a pallette swap and logo branding At least the first skin you pick is free, and I picked my hometown for Tracer.[2018-1-11. : 3:21 am] Oh_Man -- yeah wat a rip, they aren't even special skins either, like legendaries, they're just the default skin with a pallette swap and logo branding[2018-1-11. : 3:11 am] KrayZee -- Overwatch League... $5 per skin. $130 for an entire team, and $1,560 for everything. What le fuck Blizzard?[2018-1-11. : 2:07 am] KrayZee -- All these zip files talk makes me think you're talking about pants.[2018-1-11. : 1:03 am] Voyager7456 -- Otherwise I'd say just make a thread in Modding Discussion with them attached[2018-1-11. : 1:03 am] Voyager7456 -- Sometimes uploading an empty zip file and then editing the file and replacing it with the real file works[2018-1-11. : 12:48 am] IronFist1940 -- Well this problem is for three grp the thor, the ultralisk and the archon[2018-1-11. : 12:47 am] IronFist1940 -- I have a problem to upload zipped grp larger than 3MB, unzipped they are even larger[2018-1-11. : 12:42 am] IronFist1940 -- Thx, I made a mod to resemble starcraft 2, but I couldn't finish it mainly due to lack of time[2018-1-10. : 10:04 pm] Wing Zero -- CorboCorbo shouted: people are still butthurt because of a few fuck yous here and there "A few"[2018-1-10. : 10:03 pm] Moose -- Voyager7456Voyager7456 shouted: this is probably the first time in 10 years you've used your 'k' key He pretends to be a crip but really his k key stopped working months ago and he's been too lazy to get a new keyboard.[2018-1-10. : 8:11 pm] lil-Inferno -- I used 'k' here tho lil-Infernolil-Inferno shouted: it wasn't actually like that lmao [2018-1-10. : 8:05 pm] Voyager7456 -- this is probably the first time in 10 years you've used your 'k' key[2018-1-10. : 8:00 pm] lil-Inferno -- Remember when saying "fuk u" to someone in the shoutbox resulted in like a week long suspension lmao |
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