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[2018-6-12. : 2:23 am]  jjf28 -- except after accidentally cursing at another member, except then you only mention the words "mod night", and then nothing further about it[2018-6-12. : 2:21 am] KrayZee -- ClansAreForGaysClansAreForGays shouted: why is the modnight topic locked The first rule of Mod Night is: you do not talk about Mod Night.[2018-6-12. : 12:32 am] Voyager7456 -- Dem0nDem0n shouted: cuz it's an announcement and not a discussion I guess this[2018-6-11. : 10:42 pm]  Wing Zero -- I have the hardest time reading quotes with purple text cause of the dark green background on shoutbox quotes[2018-6-11. : 9:20 pm] KrayZee -- sraw531sraw531 shouted: imo purple is the hardest color to read on this forum, so mixed is better. Okay.[2018-6-11. : 8:25 pm] NudeRaider -- NudeRaiderNudeRaider shouted: sraw531 go away with your reasonable arguments... who does that? ... on 2nd thought: please do stay.  [2018-6-11. : 8:24 pm] NudeRaider -- sraw531sraw531 shouted: imo purple is the hardest color to read on this forum, so mixed is better. go away with your reasonable arguments... who does that?[2018-6-11. : 7:45 pm] sraw531 -- imo purple is the hardest color to read on this forum, so mixed is better.[2018-6-11. : 5:36 pm] Dem0n -- Not sure if a giant purple clusterfuck or a giant mixed clusterfuck is worse.[2018-6-11. : 4:33 pm] NudeRaider -- ... which can be a little awkward when you're actually straight, but hey it's your own fault for going there.  And also they're pretty chill when you tell them.[2018-6-11. : 4:30 pm] NudeRaider -- When you're in a gay club you don't need to "openly tell" them; it's assumed. [2018-6-11. : 12:49 pm] jjf28 -- LanthanideLanthanide shouted: sraw531 yes, but this is just junk: They're much more open and relaxed in dealings with one another NudeRaiderNudeRaider shouted: Lanthanide Maybe it's a local / cultural thing so it may not the same where you live. In gay Clubs and Bars in my area the guys are definitely much more straightforward when they're interested in someone than in hetero locations. There's also usually more relaxed vibe in conversations, and I've never seen dark rooms outside of gay clubs. maybe there's also some selection bias at play, e.g. the homosexuals who will tell you or openly show their orientation are more comfortable with themselves/more confident which results in more relaxed/open behavior[2018-6-11. : 11:00 am] NudeRaider -- LanthanideLanthanide shouted: sraw531 yes, but this is just junk: They're much more open and relaxed in dealings with one another Maybe it's a local / cultural thing so it may not the same where you live. In gay Clubs and Bars in my area the guys are definitely much more straightforward when they're interested in someone than in hetero locations. There's also usually more relaxed vibe in conversations, and I've never seen dark rooms outside of gay clubs.[2018-6-11. : 9:09 am] Lanthanide -- sraw531sraw531 shouted: technically, stereotypes are shortcuts for figuring out how other people are whom you don't know about yet. If you know how someone is, its no longer a stereotype. And if we had to deduce how everyone was before knowing how to react to them, we would be using a ton more brainpower than necessary. Hence, stereotypes. Its not bad to use stereotypes, just you need to be careful to never assume its correct. yes, but this is just junk: They're much more open and relaxed in dealings with one another[2018-6-11. : 8:49 am] sraw531 -- and most of the issue with gay marriage isn't about who you can be in a relationship with, but who you can visit in hospitals or share tax forms with. Government doesn't care who you sleep with, but when you keep your SO out of the hospital, people get offended (rightly so)[2018-6-11. : 8:46 am] sraw531 -- technically, stereotypes are shortcuts for figuring out how other people are whom you don't know about yet. If you know how someone is, its no longer a stereotype. And if we had to deduce how everyone was before knowing how to react to them, we would be using a ton more brainpower than necessary. Hence, stereotypes. Its not bad to use stereotypes, just you need to be careful to never assume its correct.[2018-6-11. : 7:24 am] NudeRaider -- LanthanideLanthanide shouted: NudeRaider stereotypes are dangerous first hand experience[2018-6-11. : 6:56 am] Lanthanide -- NudeRaiderNudeRaider shouted: sraw531 I wouldn't mind being gay. They're much more open and relaxed in dealings with one another (although in relationships they can be just as bitchy as women). stereotypes are dangerous[2018-6-11. : 6:17 am] NudeRaider -- LanthanideLanthanide shouted: NudeRaider well that's always been self-evident anyway. you have to be a real man to have sex with other men - women are easy to dominate  (but wrong)[2018-6-11. : 6:13 am] NudeRaider -- sraw531sraw531 shouted: in a lot of ways the culture surrounding gays is pretty bad, since based on what I have heard, "I wouldn't want to be gay", but then what I have heard about falafili "Well, that actually doesn't sound so bad". I wouldn't mind being gay. They're much more open and relaxed in dealings with one another (although in relationships they can be just as bitchy as women).[2018-6-11. : 6:13 am] Lanthanide -- NudeRaiderNudeRaider shouted: ya I'll skip the part without boobs, thank you that's the best part. You're missing out[2018-6-11. : 6:07 am] NudeRaider -- sraw531sraw531 shouted: Mini Moose 2707 pretty much everyone has a diagnosable mental handicap, its just that most people are considered "high functioning". Whatever that means. everyone has their demons, that's true (lil and Moose have Dem0n), but usually you can deal with them by yourself[2018-6-11. : 5:58 am]  O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- NudeRaiderNudeRaider shouted: FaRTy1billion but boobs! but that's still included[2018-6-11. : 5:57 am] NudeRaider -- FaRTy1billionFaRTy1billion shouted: come on now, it's 2018 so why even bother making the distinction. just accept pansexuality or w/e and be whatever with whoever because who cares but boobs! [2018-6-11. : 5:56 am] O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- come on now, it's 2018 so why even bother making the distinction. just accept pansexuality or w/e and be whatever with whoever because who cares [2018-6-11. : 5:32 am] Lanthanide -- jjf28jjf28 shouted: You win sex against a man, that’s as straight as it gets. ++[2018-6-11. : 5:03 am] sraw531 -- in a lot of ways the culture surrounding gays is pretty bad, since based on what I have heard, "I wouldn't want to be gay", but then what I have heard about falafili "Well, that actually doesn't sound so bad".[2018-6-11. : 4:58 am] sraw531 -- according to some research I read at one point talking about falafili, apparently its common for everyone in the family to "swing one specific way", and effeminate women usually end up with lots of babies and effeminate men end up being good uncles.[2018-6-11. : 4:56 am] sraw531 -- oddly enough, in it, the person who was gay (spoiler alert) had the most testosterone.[2018-6-11. : 4:55 am] sraw531 -- and if anyone wants to see this really old link about testosterone, https://www.thisamericanlife.org/radio-archives/episode/220/testosterone[2018-6-11. : 4:54 am] sraw531 -- Mini Moose 2707Mini Moose 2707 shouted: Some people have legitimate diseases and disabilities and shit, but plenty of people can't find 30 minutes a day to exercise or count calories but can find 30 minutes a day to bitch on the internet no problem LMAO pretty much everyone has a diagnosable mental handicap, its just that most people are considered "high functioning". Whatever that means.[2018-6-11. : 2:01 am] Lanthanide -- NudeRaiderNudeRaider shouted: Lanthanide Testosterone makes gay? Not to be offensive but that's a funny fact. I mean commonly testosterone levels are equalled with manliness, and now that means to be a real man, you have to become gay. well that's always been self-evident anyway. you have to be a real man to have sex with other men - women are easy to dominate[2018-6-10. : 1:50 pm] jjf28 -- LanthanideLanthanide shouted: Mini Moose 2707 there's growing evidence that the flora of bacteria in your gut and intestines have a lot to do with how much fat / nutrients you absorb from food, as well as how hungry you get. it seems that some gut bacteria effectively have mind control in that they secrete chemicals that make the human host hungry, so that the bacteria get fed. I don't know anything about the topic, but I'm always set on alarm by the phrase "growing evidence" xD[2018-6-10. : 11:35 am] Moose -- NudeRaiderNudeRaider shouted: Lanthanide Testosterone makes gay? Not to be offensive but that's a funny fact. I mean commonly testosterone levels are equalled with manliness, and now that means to be a real man, you have to become gay. This is an oversimplification of the prenatal hormones theory. What matters is prenatal hormone levels in the womb, when the brain is first wired up. Testosterone levels after birth do not matter.[2018-6-10. : 10:28 am] NudeRaider -- NudeRaiderNudeRaider shouted: Lanthanide Testosterone makes gay? Not to be offensive but that's a funny fact. I mean commonly testosterone levels are equalled with manliness, and now that means to be a real man, you have to become gay. *equated[2018-6-10. : 10:27 am] NudeRaider -- LanthanideLanthanide shouted: NudeRaider there are many physiological markers for being gay, eg digit ratio between index and ring fingers seems to be influenced by more testosterone in the womb during pregnancy, and gay/bi men tend to have a lower ratio between the fingers than straight men. Also as the number of boys in a family increase, the younger ones are more likely to be gay, again thought to be linked to extra testosterone during pregnancy in the mother Testosterone makes gay? Not to be offensive but that's a funny fact. I mean commonly testosterone levels are equalled with manliness, and now that means to be a real man, you have to become gay. [2018-6-10. : 10:21 am] NudeRaider -- NudeRaiderNudeRaider shouted: Pr0nogo I'm not going to. I think I've made it clear that there's a ton of factors. Also addictions are treatable, so you can get outside help, whereas with preferences you are alone to deal with. (Although it still can't hurt to try and get advice. For alternatives, for example) oh it's also a call to increase awareness of how bad sugar really is. Most people don't even know it affects you in more ways than giving you (too much) energy. The food industry has created a real problem with sugaring everything, and you need to be very careful what you should buy to avoid it. And no I'm not just talking about the obvious "avoid sweets and sugary cereal". I really meant it when I said they sugar everything dairy products, meat, salad, etc.[2018-6-10. : 10:17 am] NudeRaider -- Pr0nogoPr0nogo shouted: especially since most obese people have a general lack of willpower, this seems really counterproductive Lack of willpower is another problem that can be really difficult to solve on your own. Usually there's a some deeper issue that makes you "feel" powerless which you can get rid of. Or it's your environment that you need to change, or just a proper kick in the face to something "clicks" inside you. It's so individual, I can't possibly make a comprehensive list.[2018-6-10. : 10:11 am] NudeRaider -- Pr0nogoPr0nogo shouted: i think if you just pass everything off as an addiction you pave the way for the affected people to just ignore their problem I'm not going to. I think I've made it clear that there's a ton of factors. Also addictions are treatable, so you can get outside help, whereas with preferences you are alone to deal with. (Although it still can't hurt to try and get advice. For alternatives, for example)[2018-6-10. : 4:14 am] O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- LanthanideLanthanide shouted: NudeRaider there are many physiological markers for being gay, eg digit ratio between index and ring fingers seems to be influenced by more testosterone in the womb during pregnancy, and gay/bi men tend to have a lower ratio between the fingers than straight men. Also as the number of boys in a family increase, the younger ones are more likely to be gay, again thought to be linked to extra testosterone during pregnancy in the mother my uncle is the eldest child in his family and is the gay one XD[2018-6-10. : 12:21 am] Lanthanide -- Mini Moose 2707Mini Moose 2707 shouted: Ya, you need to account for decision fatigue. If you keeping soda or w/e around, you know you gonna drink it. Like an alcoholic keeping liquor around. which is why I don't really buy cookies or junk food; saves money and then you just end up eating it anwyay[2018-6-10. : 12:19 am] Lanthanide -- NudeRaiderNudeRaider shouted: Mini Moose 2707 You mean like some psychologial issue? Trauma? Definitely on the list, but I'd guess not *that* common Mini Moose 2707 I too believe there always must be some cause. But I also believe the brain is too complex for us to understand yet. Just like you wouldn't look for the cause when you're gay. However sure enough, there will be many cases where there's neurochemical issues, like reward center firing, or "I'm full" signals sent too late. there are many physiological markers for being gay, eg digit ratio between index and ring fingers seems to be influenced by more testosterone in the womb during pregnancy, and gay/bi men tend to have a lower ratio between the fingers than straight men. Also as the number of boys in a family increase, the younger ones are more likely to be gay, again thought to be linked to extra testosterone during pregnancy in the mother[2018-6-10. : 12:11 am] Lanthanide -- so two people, with different gut flora and similar activity levels, could have different weight gain on the same diet[2018-6-10. : 12:08 am] Lanthanide -- Mini Moose 2707Mini Moose 2707 shouted: calories out > calories in, one plan that works for everyone, get measuring and get to work there's growing evidence that the flora of bacteria in your gut and intestines have a lot to do with how much fat / nutrients you absorb from food, as well as how hungry you get. it seems that some gut bacteria effectively have mind control in that they secrete chemicals that make the human host hungry, so that the bacteria get fed.[2018-6-09. : 10:24 pm] Pr0nogo -- and tbh only feels a few steps away from the body positivity movement[2018-6-09. : 10:24 pm] Pr0nogo -- especially since most obese people have a general lack of willpower, this seems really counterproductive[2018-6-09. : 10:24 pm] Pr0nogo -- i think if you just pass everything off as an addiction you pave the way for the affected people to just ignore their problem[2018-6-09. : 9:30 pm] NudeRaider -- Mini Moose 2707Mini Moose 2707 shouted: You seemed very adamant yesterday that this sort of thing is generally not laziness or poor prioritization (eg. hedonistic tendency to choose a good tasting thing here and now versus what's better for the future person) or bad decision making, so is there some sort of widespread biological hydrophobia? (which is odd because there's plenty of water in soda and beer) not so much hydrophobia as sugar addiction[2018-6-09. : 9:28 pm] NudeRaider -- Mini Moose 2707Mini Moose 2707 shouted: NudeRaider NudeRaider NudeRaider If you sampled ten thousand people who gave this reason for not drinking more water vs sugary / alcoholic drinks when they know they should, what proportion do you think actually have a legitimate biological / neurochemical condition (actually have, distinct from claiming they have) that causes them to have a legitimate distaste for water? I really can't say. I'm making up numbers here, but I'd expect the % of people whose only problem is that they simply don't want to drink water to be around 10-20%. This is for actually obese people (BMI >40) where their weight already influences their daily lives to some degree. I'm not talking about BMI < 30 where if they lose like 10kg they'd have a perfect weight. |
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