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[2014-9-02. : 12:20 am] Zoan -- No, I mean I'm sorry if I misnamed what I thought was called communism with whatever you say communism is.[2014-9-02. : 12:19 am]  payne -- ZoanZoan shouted: Okay, well I was talking about whatever I thought was called communism, and I'm sorry if I misnamed that something for something that you like. and you are now assuming I like communism. I never, in this whole conversation, said such a thing.  [2014-9-02. : 12:19 am]  Jack -- Kame sorry I was being silly again  I have a bad habit of doing that in instant messaging, but it gets misunderstood enough that I should probably stop[2014-9-02. : 12:18 am] payne -- Example: ZoanZoan shouted: Also, if you still think communism is not the worst idea ever, look at history when this was tried on large scales and at the countless number of people who were killed. What countries are you thinking of? I am sorry to have to put words in your mouth, but I will assume that you had URSS as one of them, for example. Well, USSR stands for "Union of Soviet Socialist Republics" <- See how the word SOCIALIST is being used there, and not COMMUNIST.[2014-9-02. : 12:17 am] Zoan -- Okay, well I was talking about whatever I thought was called communism, and I'm sorry if I misnamed that something for something that you like.[2014-9-02. : 12:17 am] Fire_Kame -- JackJack shouted: Maybe he empathizes with zoan's ignorance but yet dislikes the feeling and hopes that he can aid zoan by enlightening him! that isn't quite I mean, I mean empathy as in understanding where Zoan comes from - how old is he, what are his goals/objectives in life, what was his upbringing like, what subjects does he excel at, etc.[2014-9-02. : 12:15 am] payne -- ZoanZoan shouted: paynePayne, you're right, I haven't studied it as much as you have, but I form my opinions on what I know about it and what I know about it gives me a very strong opinion that it is a bad idea. I have said -many times- that you were using the word "communism" non-properly, and yet you keep associating it with your opinions[2014-9-02. : 12:15 am] Jack -- Well, you're correct in saying it will never work, but the ideal communist scenario might work.[2014-9-02. : 12:15 am] Zoan -- paynepayne shouted: he knows basically next to -nothing- about anarchism or communism, and yet has so much to say about it to criticize Payne, you're right, I haven't studied it as much as you have, but I form my opinions on what I know about it and what I know about it gives me a very strong opinion that it is a bad idea.[2014-9-02. : 12:14 am] Jack -- Maybe he empathizes with zoan's ignorance but yet dislikes the feeling and hopes that he can aid zoan by enlightening him![2014-9-02. : 12:13 am] payne -- it's so sad to see ignorance so blatantly displayed, though  I nearly feel bad for no correcting him[2014-9-02. : 12:12 am] payne -- paynepayne shouted: once again, communism has proven to be a great waste of my time <- [2014-9-02. : 12:12 am] payne -- he knows basically next to -nothing- about anarchism or communism, and yet has so much to say about it to criticize[2014-9-02. : 12:12 am] Roy -- paynepayne shouted: his ignorance just fuels me in doing so https://xkcd.com/386/[2014-9-02. : 12:10 am] payne -- I feel like you talk a lot about things you haven,t reallt researched much about  [2014-9-02. : 12:10 am] payne -- ZoanZoan shouted: Also, if you still think communism is not the worst idea ever, look at history when this was tried on large scales and at the countless number of people who were killed. Zoan, you should look into anarcho-communist examples in history. Spain in the 20th century, or Ukrania[2014-9-02. : 12:04 am] Devourer -- i wish i had more time these days to fix sen. i hope you still enjoy your stay, though[2014-9-02. : 12:02 am] Jack -- http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=What+is+the+meaning+of+life%2C+the+universe%2C+and+everything%3F[2014-9-02. : 12:01 am] Roy -- /a Actually, I reinstalled so I don't have anything set up, so I won't look into it for now. Also, I hope /a is implemented.[2014-9-01. : 11:59 pm] Sand Wraith -- http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=Can+entropy+be+reversed%3F[2014-9-01. : 11:57 pm] Jack -- So according to wikipedia I tend to be minarchist libertarian, as opposed to anarchist libertarian[2014-9-01. : 11:54 pm] jjf28 -- RoyRoy shouted: Semantics, jjf: it is a system of governing. all I heard was: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hou0lU8WMgo[2014-9-01. : 11:52 pm] Zoan -- It's not just a matter of it not being done correctly. Again, for it to be done correctly and to be good, people would have to be good, which they are not.[2014-9-01. : 11:51 pm] Roy -- We basically need to change our voting system, but the people who can do that are the same people that would lose all their power by doing that.[2014-9-01. : 11:51 pm] Jack -- I don't think we've ever had an entire country run on communistic principles correctly[2014-9-01. : 11:50 pm] rayNimagi -- Right now the two major US parties are stuck and unwilling to compromise with another, nothing can get done at the federal level[2014-9-01. : 11:50 pm] Roy -- ZoanZoan shouted: Also, if you still think communism is not the worst idea ever, look at history when this was tried on large scales and at the countless number of people who were killed. Replace "communism" with any other form of government. Hurray![2014-9-01. : 11:50 pm] Jack -- Zoan that's because the violent revolution part of communism never stopped in those instances[2014-9-01. : 11:50 pm] Jack -- If I understand correctly* lanthanide will probably come and tell me it's wrong[2014-9-01. : 11:50 pm] Zoan -- Also, if you still think communism is not the worst idea ever, look at history when this was tried on large scales and at the countless number of people who were killed.[2014-9-01. : 11:50 pm] Jack -- Over here you almost never get 50% of the vote, so you typically have to form an alliance government where you make deals with smaller parties until your combined percentage is big enough[2014-9-01. : 11:49 pm] Roy -- I don't know if NZ voting is different, but we have a take-all policy here, so getting a percentage of the votes doesn't buy you any congressional power unless you actually win the election.[2014-9-01. : 11:49 pm] rayNimagi -- rayNimagirayNimagi shouted: JackUnfortunately the electoral system is set up in a winner-take-all sort of thing So even if a party gets 49% of the vote, they don't get any seats[2014-9-01. : 11:49 pm] rayNimagi -- JackJack shouted: And if enough people voted for the smaller parties then you'd get a situation like in NZ, where you do have two dominant parties but the smaller parties still have a decent amount of power Unfortunately the electoral system is set up in a winner-take-all sort of thing[2014-9-01. : 11:48 pm] Jack -- And if enough people voted for the smaller parties then you'd get a situation like in NZ, where you do have two dominant parties but the smaller parties still have a decent amount of power |
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