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[2016-1-10. : 4:13 am]  Lanthanide -- theoretically the delegates can vote for whomever they want, but in practice they don't[2016-1-10. : 4:11 am] Jack -- No not the generals, just primaries. Wikipedia says there are like 4000 delegates for the Democrats, who can vote for whichever party member they want to be the Democrat candidate[2016-1-10. : 4:11 am]  O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- People always just vote for the party anyway, so they don't even choose who they are voting for ;o[2016-1-10. : 4:10 am] Lanthanide -- small parties and independents often don't have the money, resources or inclination to get their name on each state ballot[2016-1-10. : 4:10 am] Lanthanide -- for the democratic and republican parties, they have to go through the same hoops - but they have all the money and all of the experts in each state to go through the process[2016-1-10. : 4:10 am] Lanthanide -- each state has their own filing process, and they usually cost money and take time[2016-1-10. : 4:10 am] Lanthanide -- oh, are you talking at the general election? yeah, not every candidate for the presidency ends up on the ballot in every state[2016-1-10. : 4:09 am] Lanthanide -- but in general, anyone who wants to vote in a primary, can do so as long as they meet the requirements[2016-1-10. : 4:09 am] O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- VraelVrael shouted: the note right above F VraelVrael shouted: also known as G flat I mean VS lists it as a thing I can install[2016-1-10. : 4:09 am] Lanthanide -- for some it's caucuses, and they limit it to people who are registered for the party[2016-1-10. : 4:08 am] Jack -- From what Moose just linked, states vary as to whether or not citizens get to vote on a candidate/delegates[2016-1-10. : 4:08 am] Lanthanide -- however it is very unlikely that Hillary will lose the nomination process; but she was the favourite to win the 2008 one too and Obama beat her[2016-1-10. : 4:07 am]  Vrael -- "advocates a platform which reflects the party's interpretation of the principles set forth in [blah blah] as well as the Bible." So much for the first amendment[2016-1-10. : 4:07 am] Lanthanide -- Hillary has got 400+ endorsements from party officials, and Bernie is at something like 30[2016-1-10. : 4:07 am] Vrael -- there are polls giving Hillary a slight edge, and polls saying the opposite, and other polls saying crazy things[2016-1-10. : 4:06 am] Vrael -- there are conflicting reports currently about who will win the Dem's nomination[2016-1-10. : 4:06 am] Jack -- LanthanideLanthanide shouted: so the winner of the democratic primary becomes the democratic candidate, and gets all of the support from the democratic party yep that was my understanding, but my question is more about whether there is any longer any possibility of sanders winning the democratic primary as I was told (without doing my research) that hillary already has >50% of the delegates and thus de facto assured the democrat candidacy[2016-1-10. : 4:06 am] O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- I'm surprised that the Constitution party isn't the primary party of Utah.[2016-1-10. : 4:05 am] Lanthanide -- like I think it was in 2012 or something where some states were trying to be the first state to have the primary vote, ahead of Iowa and NH, and both Iowa and NH legislators basically said "whatever date you pick, we'll go earlier than you"[2016-1-10. : 4:05 am] O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- The Constitution Party. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitution_Party_(United_States) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paleoconservatism[2016-1-10. : 4:05 am] Lanthanide -- the weird bit with the US electoral system is that there seems to be some level of official state involvement in the primaries of each of the parties[2016-1-10. : 4:04 am] O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- I'm not affiliated with a party, and Utah only recognizes Republican, Democrat, Constitution and Libertarian. ;o[2016-1-10. : 4:02 am] Moose -- VraelVrael shouted: I'm strongly considering changing my party from repub. to democrat just so I can vote Bernie in the primary Depending on your state, you may not even need to be a registered democrat to vote in their primary.[2016-1-10. : 4:02 am] Lanthanide -- so the winner of the democratic primary becomes the democratic candidate, and gets all of the support from the democratic party[2016-1-10. : 4:02 am] Vrael -- no idea what the timeline for that is though, I should do my research[2016-1-10. : 4:02 am] Vrael -- I'm strongly considering changing my party from repub. to democrat just so I can vote Bernie in the primary[2016-1-10. : 4:01 am] Lanthanide -- but they don't have the money or the volunteers or the organisers etc[2016-1-10. : 4:01 am] KrayZee -- Keep in mind that Obama was an underdog... people doubted he would win.[2016-1-10. : 4:01 am] Lanthanide -- independents and 3rd parties are able to contest the election - nothing is stopping them[2016-1-10. : 4:01 am] Lanthanide -- Jack - the 2 parties in the US put up their candidates, and fund them etc[2016-1-10. : 4:01 am] Vrael -- Bernie and Hillary both have a shot to win the spot as the Democratic party candidate[2016-1-10. : 4:01 am] Moose -- https://votesmart.org/education/presidential-primary idk, needless complication, but hey so is the general election, LMAO[2016-1-10. : 3:59 am] Moose -- I'm not 100% sure how the primaries work, but I'm pretty sure people at large vote and that's what matters[2016-1-10. : 3:58 am] Jack -- At least I was under the impression that the party itself decides who to back as their main candodate but I could be wrong[2016-1-10. : 3:58 am] O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- I plan on voting, I say because I live in Utah which is one of the most red states[2016-1-10. : 3:58 am] KrayZee -- FaRTy1billionFaRTy1billion shouted: I'd vote Sanders, but no matter what my vote will be worthless here in Utah. Says by 2/3 of the population who didn't vote because they think their votes didn't matter.   [2016-1-10. : 3:58 am] Jack -- Like it doesn't matter if he's more popular if the democrat bosspeople say "ok we're backing clinton rip all other democrat candidates"[2016-1-10. : 3:57 am] O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- I'd vote Sanders, but no matter what my vote will be worthless here in Utah. [2016-1-10. : 3:57 am] Moose -- Well, the one that gets on the ballot is the one that wins the party's primary election (assuming it's not rigged lmao)[2016-1-10. : 3:56 am] Jack -- But won't clinton get the democratic vote thing instead of sanders so he won't even be an option unless he runs as a third party?[2016-1-10. : 3:56 am] Moose -- They're protesting mandatory minimum sentences given to ranchers who set fires (accidentally, they say) on federal land[2016-1-10. : 3:55 am] KrayZee -- JackJack shouted: With the way the electoral college works in the usa, can sanders even win even though he's probs got more popular appeal? Yeah... unless the republicans cheat again like in 2000... where Jeb Bush didn't let black people vote in Florida just so his brother George W. Bush win the election...[2016-1-10. : 3:55 am] O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- JackJack shouted: With the way the electoral college works in the usa, can sanders even win even though he's probs got more popular appeal? Does he? All I ever hear about is people talking about how much they love trump[2016-1-10. : 3:55 am] Jack -- With the way the electoral college works in the usa, can sanders even win even though he's probs got more popular appeal?[2016-1-10. : 3:54 am] O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- JackJack shouted: Apparently australia is burning down ? Wasn't that last year?[2016-1-10. : 3:54 am] KrayZee -- You mean in Oregon? Where the Feds decided to cut off water, electricity, and added road blocks? |
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