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[2016-1-10. : 4:24 am]  O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- LanthanideLanthanide shouted: my boyfriend's brother may be getting sent to Antartica, for a PHd research project ;o that sounds cool[2016-1-10. : 4:24 am] O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- Oh_ManOh_Man shouted: I think the jury duty roster is also linked to the voting roster, so by dodging voting I have also dodged jury duty. That's how it is here I think[2016-1-10. : 4:24 am]  Jack -- Well, sounds like you are finally coming to grips with atheism being a religious belief![2016-1-10. : 4:24 am] Lanthanide -- my boyfriend's brother may be getting sent to Antartica, for a PHd research project[2016-1-10. : 4:24 am] Oh_Man -- I think the jury duty roster is also linked to the voting roster, so by dodging voting I have also dodged jury duty.[2016-1-10. : 4:24 am]  Vrael -- lil-Infernolil-Inferno shouted: Vrael I'll gladly finance this. you make enough from that xbox live game or w/e you made to give me a few hundred k?[2016-1-10. : 4:24 am] Oh_Man -- Mini Moose 2707Mini Moose 2707 shouted: Oh_Man They don't let you leave choices blank? Yeah, you can, but you still have to turn up to the poll - which is a waste of bloody time.[2016-1-10. : 4:23 am] lil-Inferno -- VraelVrael shouted: I'd need to be sent on a solo mission to antartica with a good internet connection for 4-6 months basically I think I'll gladly finance this.[2016-1-10. : 4:23 am] Moose -- Oh_ManOh_Man shouted: And by that same logic, I shouldn't vote in elections, because I have no expertise (or interest, for that matter) in politics, and think my uninformed vote should not be used. They don't let you leave choices blank?[2016-1-10. : 4:23 am] O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- And then they complain about who elected this jackass into office[2016-1-10. : 4:23 am] Lanthanide -- jjf28jjf28 shouted: Lanthanide lets get people that have only seen the TV ads to chose our nations leaders! by fining people if they don't vote, it should on average increase the engagement with the political process[2016-1-10. : 4:23 am] O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- JackJack shouted: jjf28 you get that anyway though People just vote for the party, I said that earlier[2016-1-10. : 4:23 am] Oh_Man -- And by that same logic, I shouldn't vote in elections, because I have no expertise (or interest, for that matter) in politics, and think my uninformed vote should not be used.[2016-1-10. : 4:23 am] Vrael -- I'd need to be sent on a solo mission to antartica with a good internet connection for 4-6 months basically I think[2016-1-10. : 4:22 am] Jack -- jjf28jjf28 shouted: Lanthanide lets get people that have only seen the TV ads to chose our nations leaders! you get that anyway though[2016-1-10. : 4:22 am] Oh_Man -- Oh_ManOh_Man shouted: Lanthanide I am firmly opposed to it. Simply because I think it should be a civic right, not a civic duty. AND... AND... I think there are many things I don't vote on, because I have no expertise in the matter. I don't vote on what rocket NASA uses, or (insert thousands of examples here).[2016-1-10. : 4:22 am] jjf28 -- LanthanideLanthanide shouted: Oh_Man it has its positives and negatives lets get people that have only seen the TV ads to chose our nations leaders![2016-1-10. : 4:22 am] Vrael -- if I ever get an opportunity to finish it I will, but I would need like....[2016-1-10. : 4:22 am] Oh_Man -- VraelVrael shouted: I hate to say it but I think it might be GG Oh well, you know you should check out my RPG sometime though.[2016-1-10. : 4:21 am] Oh_Man -- LanthanideLanthanide shouted: Oh_Man it has its positives and negatives I am firmly opposed to it. Simply because I think it should be a civic right, not a civic duty. AND...[2016-1-10. : 4:21 am] Lanthanide -- Oh_ManOh_Man shouted: i think mandatory voting is fkin dumb it has its positives and negatives[2016-1-10. : 4:21 am] Oh_Man -- VraelVrael shouted: "(23b) According to well known atheist Oh_Man, Vrael is disabled and any Vraels may therefore be exempt from the vote" Vrael, what you going on about.[2016-1-10. : 4:20 am] Vrael -- "(23b) According to well known atheist Oh_Man, Vrael is disabled and any Vraels may therefore be exempt from the vote"[2016-1-10. : 4:20 am] Lanthanide -- JackJack shouted: As a comparison to NZ, we don't actually vote on party leaders at all, from what I know. Although if a party wanted to run a popular vote they could Labour has had 2 elections for their leader, only open to Labour members however (it's easy to join). The Greens also have a democratic leader selection process, but you have to be a member of the Greens. both parties prevent you from being a member of any other party.[2016-1-10. : 4:20 am] jjf28 -- The sheer drama of this election has driven voter turnout to its highest level in centuries. 6%![2016-1-10. : 4:19 am] Lanthanide -- often, candidates will drop out after Iowa / New Hampshire if they have a poor showing[2016-1-10. : 4:19 am] Oh_Man -- " (14) Without limiting the circumstances that may constitute a valid and sufficient reason for not voting, the fact that an elector believes it to be part of his or her religious duty to abstain from voting constitutes a valid and sufficient reason for the failure of the elector to vote."[2016-1-10. : 4:19 am] jjf28 -- Oh_ManOh_Man shouted: i dodged a $400 SPER fine for not voting by using the religious exemption, which is ironic, seeing how i'm atheist lolrekt[2016-1-10. : 4:19 am] Oh_Man -- http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/cth/consol_act/cea1918233/s245.html[2016-1-10. : 4:19 am] Lanthanide -- normally after the first dozen states, whoever is leading then will win, and everyone else will drop out[2016-1-10. : 4:19 am] Oh_Man -- i dodged a $400 SPER fine for not voting by using the religious exemption, which is ironic, seeing how i'm atheist[2016-1-10. : 4:19 am] Lanthanide -- yes, that is theoretically possible; but in practice as I noted, there is a lot of 'momentum' that happens in the primary voting[2016-1-10. : 4:18 am] Lanthanide -- Jack - so I guess what you't trying to get at, is that if it is 51% Clinton 49% Bernie, it's still worth his time contesting each state, because it could all come down to the final state where the tables turn and he just gets over 50% of the delegates?[2016-1-10. : 4:18 am] Jack -- As a comparison to NZ, we don't actually vote on party leaders at all, from what I know. Although if a party wanted to run a popular vote they could[2016-1-10. : 4:17 am] Lanthanide -- KrayZeeKrayZee shouted: Lanthanide There are votes, and then the electoral college votes... clearly Al Gore had way more votes but still lost. we're talking about the primaries, not the general election[2016-1-10. : 4:17 am] KrayZee -- LanthanideLanthanide shouted: so it is true that the popular vote is what gets the delegates, but the media and party leaders can heavily influence who people vote for There are votes, and then the electoral college votes... clearly Al Gore had way more votes but still lost.[2016-1-10. : 4:16 am] Lanthanide -- yes, that is also the case, I believe most states have a proportionality in their delegate allocation[2016-1-10. : 4:16 am] Lanthanide -- so it is true that the popular vote is what gets the delegates, but the media and party leaders can heavily influence who people vote for[2016-1-10. : 4:16 am] Jack -- What I read suggested that many states require a percentage of delgates to vote for a particular candidate based on the percentage of popular votes the candidate gets[2016-1-10. : 4:15 am] O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- jjf28jjf28 shouted: FaRTy1billion I tried dark to be easier on the eyes, but I couldn't get used to it so classic black on white bg I just did the default[2016-1-10. : 4:14 am] O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- I've only voted for a city councilman and there was some tax thing on there too[2016-1-10. : 4:14 am] Lanthanide -- in that case there is usually an official transfer of those delegates to another candidate[2016-1-10. : 4:14 am] Lanthanide -- a very common case however is that an early state votes for one nominee, say Bernie, but then he drops out[2016-1-10. : 4:14 am] Jack -- So at the end of the day the popular vote during primaries dooes in fact matter[2016-1-10. : 4:14 am] O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- VraelVrael shouted: in primaries you don't vote for the whole party farty I dunno what it all means, I only registered to vote a few months ago  [2016-1-10. : 4:14 am] Lanthanide -- in cases where delegates refuse to vote for the candidate they are supposed to, the states will effectively change the law in future to prevent such mutiny (this just happened after 2012 in NH I think)[2016-1-10. : 4:13 am] Lanthanide -- many, but not all, states require the delegates from that state to vote for whomever won the popular vote in that state[2016-1-10. : 4:13 am] jjf28 -- FaRTy1billionFaRTy1billion shouted: What color theme should I choose? 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