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[2016-5-23. : 2:32 am]  Corbo -- BeatMeistroBeatMeistro shouted: Corbo Hmmm, good point. Make me think bout something though... About what?[2016-5-23. : 2:28 am] Dem0n -- FaRTy1billionFaRTy1billion shouted: Dem0n this BeatMeistro idk what that means tho[2016-5-23. : 2:26 am] BeatMeistro -- CorboCorbo shouted: Where do you think they got the animation? Hmmm, good point. Make me think bout something though... [2016-5-23. : 2:23 am] TiKels -- Mini Moose 2707Mini Moose 2707 shouted: I think you would almost have to go into machine learning techniques to start getting it to know when it does or doesn't look like something that can fit it elegantly, since the input is arbitrary neural networks = machine learning technique[2016-5-23. : 2:23 am] Corbo -- BeatMeistroBeatMeistro shouted: Corbo I recall seeing this before, interestingly enough, the unused cocoon should be made as a grp. It is.[2016-5-23. : 2:20 am] BeatMeistro -- Also, i recall i cut a few images from a sc beta video while i was searching around too. http://i.imgur.com/2Z8uQth.png[2016-5-23. : 2:17 am] BeatMeistro -- CorboCorbo shouted: https://tcrf.net/StarCraft I recall seeing this before, interestingly enough, the unused cocoon should be made as a grp.[2016-5-23. : 2:15 am]  O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- Dem0nDem0n shouted: farty what does your program do this BeatMeistroBeatMeistro shouted: Dem0n Farty is working on a way to expand the IDS found on SC's DAT files (Unit.dat for example.) [2016-5-23. : 2:15 am] Dem0n -- CorboCorbo shouted: https://tcrf.net/StarCraft The unused missions actually sound pretty cool. Wish we could play them.[2016-5-23. : 2:12 am] * jjf28 slams door*[2016-5-23. : 2:12 am] BeatMeistro -- CorboCorbo shouted: That's be cool. I guess, but most of the protoss buildings use overlays, correct?[2016-5-23. : 2:10 am] Corbo -- BeatMeistroBeatMeistro shouted: http://i.imgur.com/ifSNeGU.png That seems like it should have an animation, though ;o[2016-5-23. : 2:10 am] Corbo -- I imagine it like some sort of flying... starbase that just attacks and can create terran flying units on the spot[2016-5-23. : 2:10 am] BeatMeistro -- also,i kinda sorta recall ripping something and trying to spruce it up abit. Let me link up the image.[2016-5-23. : 2:10 am] O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- NeivNeiv shouted: Maybe it was meant for extra iscript space like bwscript.bin allows fitting more scripts? Iirc bwscripts is also just more IDs[2016-5-23. : 2:09 am] BeatMeistro -- CorboCorbo shouted: BeatMeistro Isn't the independent starport just starbase, though? I guess, though it would be interesting if it looked abit different in a way.[2016-5-23. : 2:08 am] Corbo -- CorboCorbo shouted: BeatMeistro Isn't the independent starport just starbase, though? http://www.staredit.net/sc1db/file/3266/[2016-5-23. : 2:08 am] O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- Clokr_Clokr_ shouted: Why is there a iscriptx.bin file? It's just IDs, there's no actual iscript data. I looked in to it once and I don't remember[2016-5-23. : 2:07 am] Corbo -- Each unit in SC has its own dat entries, like entries in unit, flingy, sprites, etc...[2016-5-23. : 2:06 am] Corbo -- Dem0nDem0n shouted: farty what does your program do Beatmeistro told you, it lets you add more dat entries.[2016-5-23. : 2:06 am] Corbo -- BeatMeistroBeatMeistro shouted: Still, what does the Independent Starport looked like anyways? Isn't the independent starport just starbase, though?[2016-5-23. : 2:03 am] Moose -- I think you would almost have to go into machine learning techniques to start getting it to know when it does or doesn't look like something that can fit it elegantly, since the input is arbitrary[2016-5-23. : 2:03 am] BeatMeistro -- I think i recall i kinda tried ripping from the screenshot with one of the unused protoss buildings.[2016-5-23. : 2:02 am] Moose -- Yeah, I guess you could just as easily have a shitty curve fit or trivial perfect fit space filling curve as easily in either.[2016-5-23. : 2:02 am] BeatMeistro -- CorboCorbo shouted: But since units actually have turns and stuff they'd have to be recreated from scratch Okay, the screenshots ripping could be easier to do, considering that we could to spruce them all up. We could go for those at any time along with the icons.[2016-5-23. : 2:00 am] TiKels -- You'd keep all the radius data as Y data and then just call the angle data as X data[2016-5-23. : 1:59 am] TiKels -- Mini Moose 2707Mini Moose 2707 shouted: Do you do trig functions? Do you just spiral out? There's nothing special about polar. You could write an analogous shape in Cartesian by projecting it... I'm not sure if there's a formal name for that kind of projection[2016-5-23. : 1:56 am] Corbo -- But since units actually have turns and stuff they'd have to be recreated from scratch[2016-5-23. : 1:56 am] Corbo -- Probably could clean up things from screenshots for buildings and other non-unit graphics.[2016-5-23. : 1:55 am] BeatMeistro -- CorboCorbo shouted: BeatMeistro Let's. I'd be in for that. That's good to know, Still i wonder, if we need to search around for the graphics or recreate them from scratch?[2016-5-23. : 1:54 am] Corbo -- BeatMeistroBeatMeistro shouted: We should make a collaboration mod to revive unused SC1 alpha/beta stuff. Let's. I'd be in for that.[2016-5-23. : 1:53 am] TiKels -- Mini Moose 2707Mini Moose 2707 shouted: Yeah, like we got older and got shit to do X^D something something family man[2016-5-23. : 1:52 am] TiKels -- BeatMeistroBeatMeistro shouted: I think we should, ask for concept art, maybe unused stuff if they have any. There's definitely unused assets out there. Some SC1 boxes had a doodad on it that didn't ship with the game[2016-5-23. : 1:49 am] Corbo -- BeatMeistroBeatMeistro shouted: It's kinda a step closer to adding new races on SCBW. I've discussed this idea with Farty, while this indeed allows you to add new units completely from scratch it's no where near close to adding an entire new race. He doesn't even know all the work it'd take to code something to add a new race, if at all possible. And I can pretty much agree, like, it will be ohgod very much so hardcoded, and it'd have to take a lot of work to add the options in the bin menus, to make sc load some new option, what is it supposed to callback? etc...[2016-5-23. : 1:48 am] TiKels -- I feel like neural networks would be a good one size fits all solution[2016-5-23. : 1:48 am] TiKels -- There's direct conversions from polar to Cartesian, though I don't know if that's helpful[2016-5-23. : 1:21 am] Moose -- I mean, what do you even go by? Angle? Radius? In Cartesian you can at least start with y = something most of the time[2016-5-23. : 1:16 am] TiKels -- I have a random set of polar coordinates and I want to smoothly run lines between the curves[2016-5-23. : 1:11 am] Moose -- You could just run different curve fitting algorithms against the points[2016-5-23. : 1:09 am] TiKels -- What's the best way to interpolate an arbitrary set of data points if I don't know the function and I'd rather not have it be linear interpolation?[2016-5-23. : 1:07 am] BeatMeistro -- And things were kinda slow in our end. Remember back in the early 2000's were things were more eventful?[2016-5-23. : 1:04 am] BeatMeistro -- Yeah, Blizzard isn't what it used too. It lacks that certain "kick". |
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