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[2016-5-23. : 12:55 am]
Clokr_ -- SC2 is a soulless game imo
[2016-5-23. : 12:54 am]
Clokr_ -- Blizard is pretty much dead, I can only see Activision left
[2016-5-23. : 12:44 am]
BeatMeistro -- it's kinda odd really, then again mergers do happen alot these days.
[2016-5-23. : 12:44 am]
BeatMeistro -- Oh, i remember that Blizzard and Activision were kinda a merger now.
[2016-5-23. : 12:38 am]
Clokr_ -- Activision probably does not agree
[2016-5-23. : 12:31 am]
BeatMeistro -- There shoulda been a "Art of Starcraft" book that had that sorts of stuff.
[2016-5-23. : 12:29 am]
BeatMeistro -- I think we should, ask for concept art, maybe unused stuff if they have any.
[2016-5-23. : 12:28 am]
Clokr_ -- We could try randomly emailing random SC developers to ask them this kind of silly questions
[2016-5-23. : 12:27 am]
Clokr_ -- Like a scout? I doubt anyone knows
[2016-5-23. : 12:26 am]
BeatMeistro -- or any "Independent" version of the terran buildings.
[2016-5-23. : 12:26 am]
BeatMeistro -- Still, what does the Independent Starport looked like anyways?
[2016-5-23. : 12:16 am]
Clokr_ -- We want the Cantina and the Independent Starport back!
[2016-5-22. : 11:55 pm]
BeatMeistro -- Though recreating the designs from scratch to make it appear like the official sc sprites might require some thought.
[2016-5-22. : 11:47 pm]
BeatMeistro -- We should make a collaboration mod to revive unused SC1 alpha/beta stuff.
[2016-5-22. : 11:45 pm]
BeatMeistro -- It's kinda a step closer to adding new races on SCBW.
[2016-5-22. : 11:15 pm]
Magicide -- which is excellent
[2016-5-22. : 11:07 pm]
BeatMeistro -- Dem0n
Dem0n shouted: What's a dat expander do
Farty is working on a way to expand the IDS found on SC's DAT files (Unit.dat for example.)
[2016-5-22. : 11:03 pm]
Dem0n -- What's a dat expander do
[2016-5-22. : 10:32 pm]
jjf28 -- Sacrieur
Sacrieur shouted: You'd have to go through and refactor a bunch of code if you made significant changes to the unmanaged library. That would be nuts.
it wouldn't be nuts if it wasn't needlessly difficult :lol:
[2016-5-22. : 9:15 pm]
Roy -- Mini Moose 2707
Mini Moose 2707 shouted: Neat. Though that kind of sounds like streams and filters to me.
Linq builds an expression tree.
[2016-5-22. : 9:14 pm]
jjf28 -- Roy
Roy shouted: jjf28 The only bad thing I see here are the parameter names.
heh, I'm not a fan of Hungarian style but windows uses it so..
[2016-5-22. : 9:07 pm]
Roy -- jjf28
jjf28 shouted: Clokr_ no kidding man http://puu.sh/p1qvc/d530b71166.png
The only bad thing I see here are the parameter names.
[2016-5-22. : 9:03 pm]
Sacrieur -- You'd have to go through and refactor a bunch of code if you made significant changes to the unmanaged library. That would be nuts.
[2016-5-22. : 9:02 pm]
Sacrieur -- linking them together is simply bad software design.
[2016-5-22. : 9:02 pm]
Clokr_ -- I agree. That's why the first thing I said is that the interop was bad.
[2016-5-22. : 9:01 pm]
Sacrieur -- And if you have to set it up so that the key functions are necessary to your application, which you'd like to do in .NET, then your managed code should be distinct from your unmanaged code. You should be calling on some service or some intermediary that runs the unmanaged code and returns what you need.
[2016-5-22. : 8:59 pm]
Sacrieur -- If performance is so key, choosing a language with a runtime at all is a mistake.
[2016-5-22. : 8:58 pm]
Clokr_ -- Well, I do agree in that case you don't need edge performance, and the .NET library should provide the means to do it fast enough.
[2016-5-22. : 8:58 pm]
Sacrieur -- Anywhere from payment systems to web apps.
[2016-5-22. : 8:57 pm]
Sacrieur -- So we get a wide variety of projects all related to business applications.
[2016-5-22. : 8:57 pm]
Sacrieur -- We do in-house software development.
[2016-5-22. : 8:57 pm]
Clokr_ -- What kind of applications do you guys do?
[2016-5-22. : 8:57 pm]
Sacrieur -- Where we're all using 10 languages to get our database to work with various things, and it's constantly breaking all the time.
[2016-5-22. : 8:57 pm]
Clokr_ -- They might be depending on the kind of application you are building.
[2016-5-22. : 8:56 pm]
Sacrieur -- And people that think that way are the reason I have the mess I have to deal with at work.
[2016-5-22. : 8:56 pm]
Sacrieur -- Clokr_
Clokr_ shouted: That's silly. Not everything can be done with .NET. There are performance and portability issues that cannot be eluded. Even the own .NET library has to call unmanaged code at some point.
Those are all very bad arguments.
[2016-5-22. : 8:43 pm]
Sacrieur -- Some plugin may give you that functionality though.
[2016-5-22. : 8:42 pm]
Sacrieur -- There's no option for it because no one does that.
[2016-5-22. : 8:42 pm]
BeatMeistro -- Emacs... Ermac... Hmmm, i wonder what that dude is up to these days.
[2016-5-22. : 8:42 pm]
Sacrieur -- why would you want to do that?
[2016-5-22. : 8:41 pm]
Dem0n -- Sacrieur
Sacrieur shouted: Why don't you go code on Vim.
Emacs IMO
[2016-5-22. : 8:40 pm]
Clokr_ -- its*
[2016-5-22. : 8:39 pm]
Sacrieur -- Spending time coding in another IDE like Eclipse will make you appreciate just how advanced VS is.
[2016-5-22. : 8:39 pm]
Clokr_ -- I don't say it's bad. But it's formatting options are. You cannot even set it to leave a space before the ++ operator in C#...
[2016-5-22. : 8:39 pm]
Sacrieur -- MS's developer tools are lightyears ahead of everyone else.
[2016-5-22. : 8:39 pm]
Sacrieur -- Nothing else comes remotely close.
[2016-5-22. : 8:38 pm]
Sacrieur -- VS is the best IDE out there. Period.
[2016-5-22. : 8:38 pm]
Clokr_ -- Because I already have to learn a book every time I want to do anything in C++, I don't want to have to read another one to use the editor :P
[2016-5-22. : 8:37 pm]
Sacrieur -- Why don't you go code on Vim.
[2016-5-22. : 8:37 pm]
Sacrieur -- You're fucking mad.
[2016-5-22. : 8:37 pm]
Clokr_ -- VStudio is pretty bad at formatting though
[2016-5-22. : 8:37 pm]
Corbo -- BeatMeistro
BeatMeistro shouted: Hey Corbo, you checked Farty's Dat Expansion breakthrough?
Of course ;)
[2016-5-22. : 8:37 pm]
Clokr_ -- And I absolutely hate editing spaces manually.
[2016-5-22. : 8:36 pm]
Corbo -- Mini Moose 2707
Mini Moose 2707 shouted: But are we using tabs or spaces??
tabs
[2016-5-22. : 8:36 pm]
BeatMeistro -- Hey Corbo, you checked Farty's Dat Expansion breakthrough?
[2016-5-22. : 8:36 pm]
Clokr_ -- I'm using both at the moment actually. This solution has for some reason the C# project set to spaces and the C++ one to tabs.
[2016-5-22. : 8:36 pm]
jjf28 -- :crieur:
[2016-5-22. : 8:36 pm]
Sacrieur -- We're not savages, Moose.
[2016-5-22. : 8:36 pm]
Sacrieur -- Spaces, obviously.
[2016-5-22. : 8:35 pm]
Moose -- But are we using tabs or spaces??
[2016-5-22. : 8:35 pm]
jjf28 -- :moose:
[2016-5-22. : 8:35 pm]
Moose -- It's great that we're doing all of this, really.
[2016-5-22. : 8:35 pm]
jjf28 -- Moose's D?
[2016-5-22. : 8:35 pm]
Clokr_ -- That's silly. Not everything can be done with .NET. There are performance and portability issues that cannot be eluded. Even the own .NET library has to call unmanaged code at some point.
[2016-5-22. : 8:35 pm]
Moose -- I think we're overlooking a much more important bigger issue.
[2016-5-22. : 8:34 pm]
Sacrieur -- You should attempt to resolve your performance issues within .NET
[2016-5-22. : 8:33 pm]
Sacrieur -- Trying to link managed code to unmanaged code is.
[2016-5-22. : 8:31 pm]
Clokr_ -- Trying to get efficiency in some bottleneck functions is bad?
[2016-5-22. : 8:31 pm]
Sacrieur -- It should work against you if you're trying to do something bad.
[2016-5-22. : 8:31 pm]
jjf28 -- it shouldn't not be laborious to interact with the system/preexisting libraries

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