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[2016-7-08. : 10:02 am]  LoveLess -- Besides, happy people usually don't want to go around shooting people. Isn't kiwi-land rated like, first?[2016-7-08. : 10:01 am] LoveLess -- And that mass shooting shit is more so a "OMG WE NEED TO EDUCATE OUR CHILDREN ABOUT CREATIONISM AND MASS SHOOTINGS AND MORE JESUS"[2016-7-08. : 9:59 am]  Lanthanide -- I'm glad my government doesn't have to advise our citizens of such thigns[2016-7-08. : 9:59 am] Lanthanide -- your government has officially published educational videos for what to do if you find yourself in a shooting massacre[2016-7-08. : 9:59 am] LoveLess -- The only thing we have going for us is our military and we fuck that up all the time.[2016-7-08. : 9:58 am] LoveLess -- Our education, employment, economy, and many other things are not as good as other countries too.[2016-7-08. : 9:55 am] Lanthanide -- there are so many mass shootings that simply never have to be stopped in other countries[2016-7-08. : 9:55 am] LoveLess -- There are so many attempted mass shootings that are stopped in the US, but the moment one goes through and the assailant goes somewhere nobody has a gun, it's the fault of gun control.[2016-7-08. : 9:54 am] LoveLess -- Well not everyone comes out of the closet by shooting up a night club.[2016-7-08. : 9:53 am] Lanthanide -- pretty weak argument, that you have to suffer thousands of senseless deaths a year, in the name of 'jobs'[2016-7-08. : 9:52 am] LoveLess -- In a country where we literally have hundreds of thousands of jobs relating to making these killers that mentally unstable people would be harmless without?[2016-7-08. : 9:51 am] Lanthanide -- but other than that, there's no reason to think that similar gun control wouldn't work[2016-7-08. : 9:51 am] LoveLess -- Then why use it as an example in any post relating to the US unless you are implying it is a standard we should aim for?[2016-7-08. : 9:51 am] Lanthanide -- IMO the biggest problem in the US is simply that the genie is out of the bottle[2016-7-08. : 9:51 am] Lanthanide -- all I"m pointing out, is other countries have much more stricter laws, and they work[2016-7-08. : 9:51 am] Lanthanide -- yeah, none of those are me saying that you can take kiwi law and apply it to the US like it would work[2016-7-08. : 9:51 am] LoveLess -- For one, we have the ATF. They already police a ton of people and their weapons.[2016-7-08. : 9:50 am] LoveLess -- "we have all this gun control" "oh that's banned here" that's your country, not ours, your shit would never work here.[2016-7-08. : 9:49 am] LoveLess -- Just like you're biased in thinking if we took the kiwi law here in the US, it would work like a lego piece.[2016-7-08. : 9:49 am] LoveLess -- I do not believe any one citizen has the ability to stand against their government, nor do I think that it is even possible for country wide government control via the military.[2016-7-08. : 9:48 am] LoveLess -- I just want to make this clear, you both know I was in the military? And worked closely with infantry more than any other type of job? That being said...[2016-7-08. : 9:47 am] Sand Wraith -- LanthanideLanthanide shouted: sorry, I mean to say, any hand-held weapon this. Have you seen what sort of "tools" (certainly not weapons!!!) are being/have been developed to control riots? They basically have massive sonic guns at this point.[2016-7-08. : 9:45 am] Lanthanide -- the only thing that could really stop your government is mutiny by the military / civil war[2016-7-08. : 9:45 am] Sand Wraith -- Like, what would it take for the armed citizens to be angry enough to do anything about the government when economically they're all broken?[2016-7-08. : 9:44 am] Sand Wraith -- LoveLessLoveLess shouted: That's what assault rifles are for. Who cares? How many people are there with assault rifles think the US government is tyrannical?[2016-7-08. : 9:15 am] Lanthanide -- if you think your hand guns would defend you against your government, you're delusional[2016-7-08. : 9:02 am] LoveLess -- I believe that our right to own weapons goes beyond protecting ourselves from random criminals. Our right also exists to prevent opposition from tyranny, something that goes back to why our country was even formed in the first place.[2016-7-08. : 9:00 am] LoveLess -- LanthanideLanthanide shouted: LoveLess the NRA says you need a gun to defend yourself against other people with guns - this is the result of that policy You seem to think that not having a gun means others will not. And it's not just a domestic thing, look at General Yamamato from WW2. Knowing that our nation was pro-gun is what prevented Japanese boots from ever hitting our soil, knowing that our civilians had more weapons than our military.[2016-7-08. : 7:33 am] Lanthanide -- LoveLessLoveLess shouted: This is because some felon with a revolver in his pocket resisted arrest and was shot. Also some guy who had a CCW and told the officer he had a gun while he quickly moved to get his wallet. The last one is a tradgedy, but it's not the officers fault. When you get your license to carry, they explain how to handle that situation and boy did that guy fail. the NRA says you need a gun to defend yourself against other people with guns - this is the result of that policy[2016-7-08. : 6:19 am] *Generalpie yawns and flops over*[2016-7-08. : 5:49 am] Generalpie -- I haven't even supported BLM since the start, and they keep proving that the bar can always be lower when trying to protest.[2016-7-08. : 5:46 am] LoveLess -- This is because some felon with a revolver in his pocket resisted arrest and was shot. Also some guy who had a CCW and told the officer he had a gun while he quickly moved to get his wallet. The last one is a tradgedy, but it's not the officers fault. When you get your license to carry, they explain how to handle that situation and boy did that guy fail.[2016-7-08. : 5:21 am] LoveLess -- Google Dallas shootout right now. No amount of legislation would prevent this shit.[2016-7-08. : 5:01 am] Corbo -- Then year after year you will be declining in habitants until you are so few that you realise that killing each other is such a stupid idea[2016-7-08. : 4:59 am] Corbo -- I'll solve your gun issues by giving everyone a gun and declaring a day where you can legally kill anyone you want.[2016-7-08. : 4:26 am] Zoan -- So I messaged something like - "well if you wanna talk, just msg me on FB"[2016-7-08. : 4:25 am] Zoan -- LOL - she didn't respond for a while, so I thought she was gonna just ignore me |
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