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[2016-7-20. : 3:43 am]  CecilSunkure -- jjf28jjf28 shouted: CecilSunkure no, I just thought engaging with this case study would be fun CecilSunkure future procedural program, scrapped after my plate fillith'd up with assigned work Oh ok. I'll post your solution to the topic whenever I get it opened[2016-7-20. : 3:38 am] jjf28 -- CecilSunkureCecilSunkure shouted: Was this code for a class jj? no, I just thought engaging with this case study would be fun CecilSunkureCecilSunkure shouted: And what is ProcProgram? it looks empty future procedural program, scrapped after my plate fillith'd up with assigned work[2016-7-20. : 3:35 am]  O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- Why make topics when you can just discuss everything in the shoutbox?  [2016-7-20. : 3:22 am] CecilSunkure -- As in, why would pre-existing things be not worth the hassle if we can't afford altternatives?[2016-7-20. : 3:21 am] CecilSunkure -- Well I assumed we had resources in the "and I need those things" piece[2016-7-20. : 3:21 am] Sacrieur -- You'll spend all your time trying to reinvent the wheel to your specific implementation.[2016-7-20. : 3:20 am] CecilSunkure -- If pre-existing ones aren't worth the hassle, and I need those things at some point, then yes[2016-7-20. : 3:19 am] jjf28 -- mm, I found it annoying that you can't extend vectors and add your own methods[2016-7-20. : 3:18 am] CecilSunkure -- Personally I would prefer my own std::vector just for debug speed, and to avoid deep-copies (only support POD types)[2016-7-20. : 3:17 am] CecilSunkure -- But the rest is useful and not over-engineered (as in, it solves a specific problem without trying to do anything else)[2016-7-20. : 3:17 am] CecilSunkure -- I think the allocator part of std::vector, and the very slow debug features are garbage and not-helpful[2016-7-20. : 3:16 am] CecilSunkure -- jjf28jjf28 shouted: CecilSunkure arraylists are template based tho o.O Ok  ?[2016-7-20. : 3:15 am] jjf28 -- CecilSunkureCecilSunkure shouted: jjf28 Could be C++ templates, could be a UI library, could be a game engine, could be anything else that is over-engineered arraylists are template based tho o.O[2016-7-20. : 3:15 am] CecilSunkure -- I believe in solving specific problems... Like the STB libraries[2016-7-20. : 3:14 am] CecilSunkure -- jjf28jjf28 shouted: what would be generic in your book? Could be C++ templates, could be a UI library, could be a game engine, could be anything else that is over-engineered[2016-7-20. : 3:14 am] jjf28 -- SacrieurSacrieur shouted: databases are easy: don't fuck up data integrity SacrieurSacrieur shouted: and that's it! doesn't really help me pass an OCA [2016-7-20. : 3:13 am] jjf28 -- here's what I did write, for w/e it's worth: http://puu.sh/q7HaQ/4df33d2501.7z[2016-7-20. : 3:12 am] lil-Inferno -- jjf28jjf28 shouted: I wrote the OO version and started the procedural, then I was assigned a shitton of databases homework and stopped working on it Homework in the latter half of 2016 LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO[2016-7-20. : 3:10 am] Sacrieur -- the entire implementation of a list is based on the concept of something called generics, so that the creator doesn't have to define a new data structure for each kind of data type. He can write it once which is universal for all objects. Unless you're in an advanced language like C# or Python which permit lists with primitive types, and I'm not even sure how those work but those are pretty cool.[2016-7-20. : 3:07 am] CecilSunkure -- And you've decided generic means something useful, which it isn't[2016-7-20. : 3:06 am] Sacrieur -- It's not that I don't like it, it's that you're wrong and making it impossible to communicate with, because you refuse to use a common language. You've decided on whim that "generic" means something it doesn't actually mean.[2016-7-20. : 3:05 am] Sacrieur -- Maybe it will help you with your tendency to arbitrarily decide words mean whatever you want them to mean.[2016-7-20. : 3:05 am] jjf28 -- I wrote the OO version and started the procedural, then I was assigned a shitton of databases homework and stopped working on it[2016-7-20. : 3:05 am] CecilSunkure -- json methods solve a specific problem -> convert runtime data to a specific file format[2016-7-20. : 3:04 am] Sacrieur -- json serializes object code, and it is supported by nearly every language.[2016-7-20. : 3:03 am] jjf28 -- SacrieurSacrieur shouted: jjf28 That's what json is for xD true, but we were using it as a test-case last night so no cheating and using a library  [2016-7-20. : 3:03 am] Sacrieur -- jjf28jjf28 shouted: I'd think the need to easily serialize hundreds of different objects is pretty generic That's what json is for xD[2016-7-20. : 3:03 am] lil-Inferno -- SacrieurSacrieur shouted: CecilSunkure I get that from people all of the time. "Why didn't you write it this way?" - Because it wouldn't be generic if I didn't. Come on man, that meme died yesterday. Don't resurrect it. |
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