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[2016-7-25. : 1:54 pm]  lil-Inferno -- Sand WraithSand Wraith shouted: lil-Inferno nice Sand WraithSand Wraith shouted: good joke!! u mad LMAO[2016-7-25. : 1:34 pm] jjf28 -- Sie_SayokaSie_Sayoka shouted: does the give unit trigger not work with revealers? it most certainly does not[2016-7-25. : 11:23 am]  Sand Wraith -- it couldn't handle the paradox of tolerance realistically so it went full intolerance and ceased to exist instead[2016-7-25. : 10:44 am] Lanthanide -- to be fair there are more days in the year that have a mass shooting in the US, than days that don't[2016-7-25. : 9:20 am] NudeRaider -- ugh... what is it, like the 4th? in a couple of weeks? This shit gonna have to stop.[2016-7-25. : 8:43 am] NudeRaider -- apart from amusing naivete ... http://i.imgur.com/vFwedYy.jpg ... who wouldn't want to talk to a talking tree?![2016-7-25. : 5:25 am] Generalpie -- Some ads can be funny. "Dear visitor: there are sexy singles in the area of VPN!"[2016-7-25. : 5:17 am] Generalpie -- All I can find now are news articles about BLM derailing the vigil at the night club[2016-7-25. : 5:10 am] Sand Wraith -- GeneralpieGeneralpie shouted: Because the leaders of a group saying homophobic slurs because the orlando shooting gets more press is such a nice way to protest wait what the fuck[2016-7-25. : 5:10 am] Generalpie -- Because the leaders of a group saying homophobic slurs because the orlando shooting gets more press is such a nice way to protest[2016-7-25. : 5:10 am] Sand Wraith -- You know what? It's not that I don't see another way around it, it just doesn't bother me that much.[2016-7-25. : 5:09 am] Sand Wraith -- Meh. I don't see another way around it. The problems they talk about are an ugly but important matter, so it feels fitting that their protests are too.[2016-7-25. : 5:09 am] Generalpie -- I don't hate the group per se, as the only encounter I've had is that one friend I hardly talk to anymore, and that one customer who refused to get out of their seat in the theater that someone else paid for.[2016-7-25. : 5:07 am] Sand Wraith -- like, what's pettier, performing a ruse like what BLM did, or having heard of their ruse and their message, you hate them and ignore their message both?[2016-7-25. : 5:05 am] Sand Wraith -- GeneralpieGeneralpie shouted: It's dumb, and is exactly how you protest ineffectively when you get more and more people to hate your movement instead of supporting or being apathetic to it Is it? All the history I've read points to disruptive protests being effective.[2016-7-25. : 5:04 am] Generalpie -- "We did/said horrible things and now people are against our movement! They must be racists! America has a growing racism problem because people don't support us!"[2016-7-25. : 5:04 am] Sand Wraith -- I agree it was in poor taste but it's done and the people who here about it are the ones who have to deal with the dual knowledge of 1) BLM are shit disturbers 2) police have a poor relationship with black LGBTQ members and sex workers[2016-7-25. : 5:04 am] Generalpie -- It's dumb, and is exactly how you protest ineffectively when you get more and more people to hate your movement instead of supporting or being apathetic to it[2016-7-25. : 5:02 am] Generalpie -- They treat coverage like a zero-sum game while asserting that focusing on domestic issues instead of worse issues in worse-off countries is not a zero-sum game[2016-7-25. : 5:01 am] Generalpie -- It's just like when BLM was bitching that victims of various shootings in Europe got more coverage in the news than BLM's protests[2016-7-25. : 4:59 am] Generalpie -- "This mural isn't good enough for me and a few friends of mine. I don't have a specific problem with it or what it represents, but I want the event done my way."[2016-7-25. : 4:58 am] Generalpie -- Sand WraithSand Wraith shouted: Generalpie "They are “PR tools used to mask the reality of police relations amongst the queer and trans community: black people, indigenous people, sex workers et cetera,” said Black Lives Matter co-founder Rodney Diverlus, 26, after disrupting the unveiling. " That's what I got from The Star. It's a fair-enough complaint. Their disruption of the pride parade also carried fair-enough demands. Yet they won't argue what the "reality of police relations" is. The mural was an apologetic gesture to the community for an incident in the 80's and to celebrate the history of said LGBT community. Asserting that it's just a mask is just childish and is the same as a vocal minority not accepting the apology until they get their way regardless of what the minority wants.[2016-7-25. : 4:55 am] jjf28 -- possibly change our own attitudes, get material for changing other people on our networks' attitudes, start a revolution, jail Putin, etc.[2016-7-25. : 4:53 am] Sand Wraith -- GeneralpieGeneralpie shouted: Sand Wraith They prevented an LGBT mural ceremony in Toronto until they could manage it "They are “PR tools used to mask the reality of police relations amongst the queer and trans community: black people, indigenous people, sex workers et cetera,” said Black Lives Matter co-founder Rodney Diverlus, 26, after disrupting the unveiling. " That's what I got from The Star. It's a fair-enough complaint. Their disruption of the pride parade also carried fair-enough demands.[2016-7-25. : 4:52 am] Generalpie -- Then again, a friend I used to be besties with bitches about the new Harry Potter movie because of course it's the white man that brings magic overseas.[2016-7-25. : 4:50 am] KrayZee -- Maybe if they rename the group into 'Black Lives Do Matter', it may change people's minds if they're willing.[2016-7-25. : 4:50 am] Generalpie -- And are unwilling to deal with the poor leadership and people at the top[2016-7-25. : 4:50 am] Generalpie -- jjf28jjf28 shouted: Generalpie perhaps not, but they have an excellent excellent platform on criminal justice reform that we should all be fighting for The decent people I see backing it only back the idea and platform[2016-7-25. : 4:49 am] Generalpie -- Sand WraithSand Wraith shouted: I don't keep up with them so meh. They prevented an LGBT mural ceremony in Toronto until they could manage it[2016-7-25. : 4:49 am] jjf28 -- GeneralpieGeneralpie shouted: To be fair, BLM isn't a particularly good protest group. perhaps not, but they have an excellent excellent platform on criminal justice reform that we should all be fighting for[2016-7-25. : 4:48 am] KrayZee -- People who are like 'All Lives Matter' miss the whole point entirely.[2016-7-25. : 4:47 am] *Generalpie yawns and flops over*[2016-7-25. : 4:47 am] jjf28 -- currently there seems to be a very dismissive attitude (I don't see color/gender, all lives matter) to people trying to focus on real problems  |
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