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[2016-8-17. : 1:58 am]  jjf28 -- for a deeper developer pool & the ability to chase down bugs, a mainstream language would be nice  [2016-8-17. : 1:57 am]  Moose -- AhliAhli shouted: Mini Moose 2707 f*ck no... in my firest semester at this uni I had to learn a prof-personal bastardization of lisp (filled with bugs) that we had to learn and use Not LISP's fault your professor forced a shitty implementation on you.[2016-8-17. : 1:56 am] Ahli -- Mini Moose 2707Mini Moose 2707 shouted: TBH, just have everyone learn LISP and write everything in that f*ck no... in my firest semester at this uni I had to learn a prof-personal bastardization of lisp (filled with bugs) that we had to learn and use[2016-8-17. : 1:54 am] jjf28 -- that's what MVC and J2EE works best with? I'm not certain but that's my barely-educated understanding  [2016-8-17. : 1:52 am] jjf28 -- I doubt there's anything on the hibernate/MVC level though, would spend lots of time fiddling with SQL[2016-8-17. : 1:51 am] jjf28 -- I've never used python in a web context (or at all that much) but for it to be a good choice we'd have to find some nice query-building libraries and some kind of web-request handling framework[2016-8-17. : 1:50 am] Roy -- Python would be like using a hammer on a screw; it's not a web technology, even if things like Django Project exist.[2016-8-17. : 1:46 am] Roy -- The worst part about it is that all of the tutorials and code samples are outdated, insecure, and just downright awful.[2016-8-17. : 1:46 am] jjf28 -- Mini Moose 2707Mini Moose 2707 shouted: Is PHP even really that bad? it's not horrible imo, but you'll pretty much end up doing everything yourself which is dumb[2016-8-17. : 1:45 am] Roy -- Well, we could have several repositories in several languages and see which one develops the fastest.[2016-8-17. : 1:43 am] Ahli -- lil-Infernolil-Inferno shouted: Ahli What? jetbrains' phpstorm uses intellij's hotkey settings or something like that and the first time I used it I nicely removed everything I did because of hotkeys being different and delete line + documents automatically saving changes seemed a good concept to somebody[2016-8-17. : 1:42 am] lil-Inferno -- If it's gonna be open source, I think using the most widely known and easy to use languages (Java, C#, etc) is our best bet.[2016-8-17. : 1:41 am] lil-Inferno -- AhliAhli shouted: doesn't intellij have those crazy hotkeys that delete a line and save the document? What?[2016-8-17. : 1:40 am] lil-Inferno -- jjf28jjf28 shouted: the tech stack I'm currently being trained on: Java, SQL, Bootstrap/HTML/CSS, Hibernate, Spring MVC/AOP, AJAX, Angular; --- .NET has a much lower learning curve due to requiring less languages and much easier auto-persistence (not to mention C# is awesome) fewer[2016-8-17. : 1:40 am] Moose -- TBH, just write modular pieces in C, since like everything can interface with C LMAO[2016-8-17. : 1:40 am] Ahli -- doesn't intellij have those crazy hotkeys that delete a line and save the document?[2016-8-17. : 1:40 am] jjf28 -- the tech stack I'm currently being trained on: Java, SQL, Bootstrap/HTML/CSS, Hibernate, Spring MVC/AOP, AJAX, Angular; --- .NET has a much lower learning curve due to requiring less languages and much easier auto-persistence (not to mention C# is awesome)[2016-8-17. : 1:40 am] Ahli -- of for some goddamned reason eclipse lets you open multiple instances of the same file and just does not save the edits in one of those... because that's how I like writing code... unsaved.[2016-8-17. : 1:39 am] Ahli -- Mini Moose 2707Mini Moose 2707 shouted: Eclipse X_____________X yep. I'm not a fan of it either... it just tends to break itself over time requiring you to maven update and full publish all day[2016-8-17. : 1:38 am] Roy -- I'd be fine going the .NET route though, because I'm so familiar with it.[2016-8-17. : 1:38 am] Roy -- I'd pick Node, because then I'd have an excuse to learn more about Node.[2016-8-17. : 1:36 am] Roy -- Maybe J2EE has gotten better over the years, but I don't have fond memories of it.[2016-8-17. : 1:35 am] jjf28 -- I've been happiest with MS MVC (all in one) and J2EE (java, hibernate, etc.)[2016-8-17. : 1:34 am] Roy -- So if you had to pick the backend technology for SEN, what would you choose?[2016-8-17. : 1:31 am] Roy -- lil-Infernolil-Inferno shouted: As a SEN user, I would like a button to easily whisper a member in the shoutbox. Where I work, all our user stories start with "As the company, do this feature thanks."[2016-8-17. : 1:29 am] Moose -- User story sounds better than "desirement" and it's not a "requirement"[2016-8-17. : 1:29 am] lil-Inferno -- As a SEN user, I would like a button to easily whisper a member in the shoutbox.[2016-8-17. : 1:28 am] lil-Inferno -- Mini Moose 2707Mini Moose 2707 shouted: We can work it into the v6.1 / v7 user stories, though. User stories LMAO |
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