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[2016-11-10. : 12:28 am]  Lanthanide -- when you employ someone, you only get a limited amount of their time, and you have expectations of them performing tasks during that time period[2016-11-10. : 12:27 am] Lanthanide -- are you saying that when someone leases a truck, they're employing the truck?[2016-11-10. : 12:26 am] Lanthanide -- so when a task that a human does is roboticised, it often appears very different, so you can't really say a robot is doing the human's job[2016-11-10. : 12:26 am]  Roy -- Well, there are two problems there. 1) Leasing robots would be equivocal to contracting workers, and contracting is a job. 2) Robot rights, bruh.[2016-11-10. : 12:26 am] Lanthanide -- the task is also often carried out 24/7, or for specific production runs, whereas humans tend to work 8 hour shifts[2016-11-10. : 12:25 am] Lanthanide -- well in many cases, when robots replace humans, the task is performed in a very different way[2016-11-10. : 12:22 am] Lanthanide -- you better watch your back, Roy, I'll get a grand prosecutor on you[2016-11-10. : 12:21 am] Roy -- I could get extremely pedantic on the usage of the word, but I'm not really into it right now, so I'll just concede like Hillary did last night.[2016-11-10. : 12:19 am] Lanthanide -- RoyRoy shouted: Lanthanide Lanthanide I don't know why he would do that when China and Mexico aren't taking our labor; machines are. I guess I'm saying he can do those things, but they're just a distraction from the actual work-related crisis of the next decade. LanthanideLanthanide shouted: his big problem, is that the manufacturing jobs he's talking about, simply don't exist any more [2016-11-10. : 12:18 am] Dem0n -- tbh, just bop all the blue collar dumbasses who votes for him and let machines take their jobs. ez[2016-11-10. : 12:18 am] Roy -- LanthanideLanthanide shouted: so, if Trump actually does manage to deport 11 million people, lets say he does it over a course of 2 years LanthanideLanthanide shouted: like putting a 45% tarrif on trade with China will be the single biggest decrease in US spending power and hence prosperity in history I don't know why he would do that when China and Mexico aren't taking our labor; machines are. I guess I'm saying he can do those things, but they're just a distraction from the actual work-related crisis of the next decade.[2016-11-10. : 12:17 am]  Moose -- Dem0nDem0n shouted: A bunch of 12 year olds thinking their hot shit. Yeah they're gonna be real mature. Dem0nDem0n shouted: Stop being an idiot. Dem0nDem0n shouted: Dem0n they're* SMH Dem0n is a MESS.[2016-11-10. : 12:16 am] Dem0n -- Dem0nDem0n shouted: A bunch of 12 year olds thinking their hot shit. Yeah they're gonna be real mature. they're* SMH[2016-11-10. : 12:16 am] Dem0n -- A bunch of 12 year olds thinking their hot shit. Yeah they're gonna be real mature.[2016-11-10. : 12:16 am] Dem0n -- KrayZeeKrayZee shouted: I'm playing on my Xbox One and listening to other players talk about Trump... I am appalled. It's fucking Xbox Live. Literally what else do you expect?[2016-11-10. : 12:03 am] jjf28 -- what ever happened to the conservative party moving in the right direction conservatively?[2016-11-09. : 11:47 pm] Moose -- LanthanideLanthanide shouted: http://www.itep.org/immigration/ No, no, not contributions. Costs.[2016-11-09. : 11:35 pm] Lanthanide -- https://twitter.com/cartoonmovement/status/796267014599962624/photo/1[2016-11-09. : 11:30 pm] Lanthanide -- like putting a 45% tarrif on trade with China will be the single biggest decrease in US spending power and hence prosperity in history[2016-11-09. : 11:29 pm] Lanthanide -- actually the main problems with Trump's policies, such as they are, is the speed at which he wants to implement them[2016-11-09. : 11:23 pm] Moose -- Do you have a second source for costs of illegal immigrants to the government?[2016-11-09. : 11:20 pm] Lanthanide -- so, if Trump actually does manage to deport 11 million people, lets say he does it over a course of 2 years[2016-11-09. : 11:19 pm] Lanthanide -- they're talking about immigration as a whole rather than illegal immigration, but it's still true[2016-11-09. : 11:19 pm] Lanthanide -- "Most economists firmly reject the notion that “immigrants are taking our jobs.” By providing new customers as well as new workers, immigration increases income and employment opportunities for native-born workers, leaving everyone better off on average."[2016-11-09. : 11:16 pm] Lanthanide -- go educate yourself: http://fivethirtyeight.com/tag/immigration/[2016-11-09. : 11:16 pm] Lanthanide -- a lot of them are doing jobs that Americans simply won't want to do[2016-11-09. : 11:15 pm] Lanthanide -- if you just deport them, companies that rely on them won't have labour[2016-11-09. : 11:15 pm] Lanthanide -- these people make up a big part of the work force in many states[2016-11-09. : 11:15 pm] Lanthanide -- " The Social Security Administration estimates that in 2010 illegal immigrants paid a net contribution of $12 billion, either by working under a fraudulent Social Security number or by using a legitimate Social Security number after overstaying a visa or otherwise losing permission to work. "[2016-11-09. : 11:13 pm] Lanthanide -- it's estimated that there are 11.3 million illegal immigrants in the US[2016-11-09. : 11:12 pm] Vrael -- LanthanideLanthanide shouted: illegal immigrants pay more in tax than they take in benefits, by a wide margin - because they're illegal they're not eligible for benefits kinda skeptical on this one - 2 million illegal immigrants maybe (so 2/322 of the population), and how many of those are super wealthy and pay a lot of taxes and spend a lot in the economy?[2016-11-09. : 11:11 pm] KrayZee -- The republicans are in control of the House of Representatives and Senate.[2016-11-09. : 11:11 pm] Lanthanide -- and if Trump doesn't do what he promised and round them up, then there's going to be a lot of discontent[2016-11-09. : 11:10 pm] Lanthanide -- if they are actually rounded up and deported, you're going to go into recession[2016-11-09. : 11:10 pm] Lanthanide -- illegal immigrants pay more in tax than they take in benefits, by a wide margin - because they're illegal they're not eligible for benefits[2016-11-09. : 11:10 pm] Lanthanide -- problem is, the promises Trump made, if he actually keeps them, will be very damaging for the US[2016-11-09. : 11:08 pm] Lanthanide -- KrayZeeKrayZee shouted: I heard a 12 year old kid openly saying the word Nigger a lot and that's really the worst part of it, he normalises these attitudes[2016-11-09. : 11:07 pm] KrayZee -- They think he'll do great, they are happy to see muslims banned and Mexicans going away. 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