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[2016-11-10. : 7:34 am]  Sand Wraith -- No I'm thinking of http://www.adl.org/combating-hate/hate-on-display/c/14-words.html[2016-11-10. : 7:34 am]  CecilSunkure -- Pr0nogoPr0nogo shouted: kill all cis people : D I mean at least you passionate and go all the way. Commendable[2016-11-10. : 7:31 am] NudeRaider -- Sand WraithSand Wraith shouted: Dark humour. Ignore me, I have no chill. Not what I meant. I just think the issue is that I haven't heard of your figure of speech yet. But the follow up comment makes me think you're alluding to the 14 words that are spoken at someone's grave?[2016-11-10. : 7:30 am] NudeRaider -- Sand WraithSand Wraith shouted: Revolution pls this. I've also been demanding that for a while for Germany now.  [2016-11-10. : 7:29 am] Sand Wraith -- ohgodno-- oh wait, both candidates were terrible for multiple reasons[2016-11-10. : 7:26 am] NudeRaider -- from what I read her campaign only touched side issues like lbgt and education, but left out huge fields like unemployed workers, or men in general.[2016-11-10. : 7:16 am]  O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- but I don't really know, people were just like "At least he's not Hillary"[2016-11-10. : 7:15 am] O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- I don't think it was her campaign, I think it was the other stuff[2016-11-10. : 7:15 am] NudeRaider -- hm. The Internet seems to believe Trump won because of Hilliary. What do you think? Was her campaign (not the things she's done before) really that repugnant?[2016-11-10. : 7:06 am] O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- also I still believe that everyone is the same (but our differences make us interesting and special), we all share this same rock and everyone should just be pacifists. or, you know, whatever  [2016-11-10. : 6:53 am] CecilSunkure -- NudeRaiderNudeRaider shouted: CecilSunkure no it isn't. Rich should be forced, to further this cause more than the average guy, but really it's the whole society's responsibility. OK. I think I agree with that[2016-11-10. : 6:53 am] NudeRaider -- CecilSunkureCecilSunkure shouted: and I think it's the responsibility of the rich to fulfill A and B. no it isn't. Rich should be forced, to further this cause more than the average guy, but really it's the whole society's responsibility.[2016-11-10. : 6:51 am] CecilSunkure -- and I'm really happy you and I got here without bringing in race crap[2016-11-10. : 6:51 am] O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- CecilSunkureCecilSunkure shouted: and I think it's the responsibility of the rich to fulfill A and B. [2016-11-10. : 6:51 am] CecilSunkure -- and I think it's the responsibility of the rich to fulfill A and B.[2016-11-10. : 6:50 am] CecilSunkure -- So my personal opinion is A) help natives because economics, B) help poor people in general because economics[2016-11-10. : 6:47 am] CecilSunkure -- I think it's economically obvious which one deserves economic help[2016-11-10. : 6:46 am] CecilSunkure -- modern natives lost out on an entire continent, and modern blacks get to live in the US as opposed to Africa[2016-11-10. : 6:46 am] CecilSunkure -- But native americans took a huge economic hit, so those dudes should probably receive economic help for the losses[2016-11-10. : 6:45 am] CecilSunkure -- So the original slaves are long dead. Their children are reaping the benefits of US citizenship. OK, great.[2016-11-10. : 6:44 am] CecilSunkure -- Whites didn't just show up in boats and go hunting in the bush for all the slaves[2016-11-10. : 6:43 am] CecilSunkure -- Also, just want to point out, blacks sold other blacks into slavery. They were black slavers back in that time.[2016-11-10. : 6:43 am] CecilSunkure -- Yeah it's definitely bad for those people. But their ancestors are living the US now, which is incredibly lucky for the ancestors[2016-11-10. : 6:42 am] O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- I think forcibly taking people from their homeland is bad, and I wouldn't call that lucky[2016-11-10. : 6:41 am] CecilSunkure -- unless of course you think living in africa is better, economically, than living in the US[2016-11-10. : 6:40 am] CecilSunkure -- Therefor, natives just so happen to need economic help, and blacks just so happen to have gotten really lucky[2016-11-10. : 6:40 am] CecilSunkure -- So native americans were put into an economic disadvantage, and blacks shipped from africa ended up in an economic advantage[2016-11-10. : 6:38 am] CecilSunkure -- Well actually I pointed out economic benefits, and they just so happen to be of a particular race, which is mostly irrelevant to the economic benefit[2016-11-10. : 6:36 am] CecilSunkure -- And if we talk about blacks coming to america as slaves... Well all blacks in the US are now at a huge economic advantage over the majority of africans[2016-11-10. : 6:35 am] CecilSunkure -- It's like the SAT score thing. If we lower the bar across the board for acceptance it's easy to see that won't fix real problems. But if we focus on racially adjusting the bar, it makes it much harder to notice that it also doesn't fix real problems[2016-11-10. : 6:35 am] CecilSunkure -- well guilt is about intention. So if our actions are motivated by economic reasoning, then there's no race involved[2016-11-10. : 6:34 am] O)FaRTy1billion[MM] -- Native Americans are a different race, they're more closely related to Asians[2016-11-10. : 6:33 am] CecilSunkure -- Their land was stolen, their culture was destroyed, so it makes sense to help them out just by economic reasoning[2016-11-10. : 6:33 am] CecilSunkure -- And I think that's a race thing by proxy -- a giant group of people were killed. So those people should probably be helped out since they are now at a huge economic disadvantage |