I think there was a problem on one of my previous maps that when I had two overlapping waits the wait lasted for longer than expected. If such a problem occurs, how do I fix it?
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The 'wait' Issue
I'm wondering, because I'm aiming thinking a map that is heavily spell oriented, what happens when there's too many wait triggers going on. (as you have to use the wait trigger to enable the spell to last for a duration of time. The countdown timer is already being used.
I think there was a problem on one of my previous maps that when I had two overlapping waits the wait lasted for longer than expected. If such a problem occurs, how do I fix it?
I think there was a problem on one of my previous maps that when I had two overlapping waits the wait lasted for longer than expected. If such a problem occurs, how do I fix it?
The problem you are encountering is called a wait block. The main way to avoid encountering this problem is to use many death counters instead of waits. For example, instead of waiting for 6000 milliseconds when a condition is met and then doing something, you add 1 to the "death counter," for example, deaths of a psi emitter. Then, when the player has suffered a number of deaths of the psi emitter which is the same as 6000 milliseconds, (72 or 3, depending on whether you are using hyper triggers or not), you make the appropriate action. It seems more bulky at first because each "wait" when using a death counter takes multiple triggers, but once you understand the system you realize how much more flexible it is.
You can read more here, feel free to ask questions:
http://www.staredit.net/wiki/Wait_Blocks
http://www.staredit.net/wiki/Hyper_Triggers
http://www.staredit.net/wiki/Death_Counters
You can read more here, feel free to ask questions:
http://www.staredit.net/wiki/Wait_Blocks
http://www.staredit.net/wiki/Hyper_Triggers
http://www.staredit.net/wiki/Death_Counters
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Instead of using waits, death counters is the best option. Death counters are now usually a better alternative for switches and timer. If you are making spells, you should use death counters along with hyper triggers.
1000 milliseconds is known to be one second
11.8 (or 12) death counters with hyper triggers is 1 second.
So about 120 deaths of a certain unit = 1 second in a game speed of fastest with hyper triggers.
Here is an example of a simple spell from my map.
While it might take more than 1 trigger to make a spell and takes a lot of organization, it is the best way. Organization is really important and you should never use the same death counter as the wait for each spell, unless you allow only 1 spell casting at a time.
1000 milliseconds is known to be one second
11.8 (or 12) death counters with hyper triggers is 1 second.
So about 120 deaths of a certain unit = 1 second in a game speed of fastest with hyper triggers.
Here is an example of a simple spell from my map.
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While it might take more than 1 trigger to make a spell and takes a lot of organization, it is the best way. Organization is really important and you should never use the same death counter as the wait for each spell, unless you allow only 1 spell casting at a time.
We can't explain the universe, just describe it; and we don't know whether our theories are true, we just know they're not wrong. >Harald Lesch
Keep in mind that waits are measured in real time, while death counts (like the countdown timer) are measured in game time.
This is important for single player maps where it's very likely that the player alters the speed.
With hyper triggers triggers are checked 8 times per game second which translates to ~11.8 times per real time second on fastest.
This is important for single player maps where it's very likely that the player alters the speed.
With hyper triggers triggers are checked 8 times per game second which translates to ~11.8 times per real time second on fastest.
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[2026-9-23. : 5:21 pm]
NudeRaider -- Oh_ManOh_Man shouted: NudeRaider yeh thts straight up cheating
the mutas yes, the wraiths probably not. Have you even watched the video? 
[2026-9-23. : 12:56 pm]
Oh_Man -- NudeRaiderNudeRaider shouted: Oh_Man Artosis hasn't caught on how devastating the perfect focus fire is. With the mutas he was like "the Mutas always seem to have less hp than against a human". But he didn't notice that the flock he had selected always just had one muta that was hurt. Same with the wraiths here. He's talking about how valks+wraith is gonna destroy Pluto's valks, then 5s later he's dumbfounded the human player's air is just gone and he never figured out why. And for some reason didn't even think to go back and look at the battle.
yeh thts straight up cheating[2026-9-23. : 12:24 pm]
Oh_Man -- arty's done another vid. he's also announced he's going to organise showmatches with pro, with NO maphacks, so we can see its actual capabilities
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