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Exteded Unit Deaths
May 21 2008, 9:40 pm
By: midget_man_66  

May 21 2008, 9:40 pm midget_man_66 Post #1



I humbly ask that someone explain to me (in detail) what an eud is, and how to use eud triggers... thanks :)



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May 21 2008, 9:50 pm Heimdal Post #2



Good lord, this gets asked like every 2 days. Not saying that's bad, I think it's awesome people are still wanting to learn new stuff in SC mapping. Just...we need a better resource for it.

http://www.staredit.net/topic/2988/



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May 21 2008, 9:58 pm midget_man_66 Post #3



alright, thanks for the link... but i Really need more information then that. now i know what an eud trigger is, but i really need to know how to make eud triggers. im willing to go through the work. im tired of making vhp for rpg's, i want to be able to edit the hp directly. thanks :D



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May 21 2008, 10:49 pm poiuy_qwert Post #4

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You can't edit the HP directly, EUD Actions (lets you change memory of the game) were patched a long while ago, only EUD Conditions (lets you read memory of the game) still exist in the current versions.




May 21 2008, 11:12 pm Demented Shaman Post #5



Quote from midget_man_66
alright, thanks for the link... but i Really need more information then that. now i know what an eud trigger is, but i really need to know how to make eud triggers. im willing to go through the work. im tired of making vhp for rpg's, i want to be able to edit the hp directly. thanks :D

Quote from poiuy_qwert
You can't edit the HP directly, EUD Actions (lets you change memory of the game) were patched a long while ago, only EUD Conditions (lets you read memory of the game) still exist in the current versions.
You can edit HP directly. There is a modify unit hp action :P But of course you're referring to the limitations of that action, as it only lets you modify to a percent and there is also no condition that lets you detect HP, although EUDs can let you do that.



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May 22 2008, 9:46 pm rockz Post #6

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This will be the second time I link this today...

http://www.staredit.net/topic/2757/



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