Quote from
DT_Battlekruser
DT_BattlekruserBy society? That's why I hate it 
I ran across an excellent opinion on the subject on some other forum somewhere (JapanToday, Google tells me).

I ran across an excellent opinion on the subject on some other forum somewhere (JapanToday, Google tells me).
Quote
...
When did "friendship" become a "bad word"? Can there be "love", without "friendship"?
True, a person can mean that a significant other is more than a "friend", but this should not discount friendship as an element of their bond. Without friendship, the relationship appears to have suspect motives and arguably can be very coercive and problematic. Hmmmm... Maybe that is also part of the reason that divorce rates are so high or "love" turns to "hate" so quickly. But then that also brings up the point of people and societies having to be honest about sex and enjoying sex, as oppose to mislabeling "love"...
When did "friendship" become a "bad word"? Can there be "love", without "friendship"?
True, a person can mean that a significant other is more than a "friend", but this should not discount friendship as an element of their bond. Without friendship, the relationship appears to have suspect motives and arguably can be very coercive and problematic. Hmmmm... Maybe that is also part of the reason that divorce rates are so high or "love" turns to "hate" so quickly. But then that also brings up the point of people and societies having to be honest about sex and enjoying sex, as oppose to mislabeling "love"...
You should always love your friends, and always be friends with your lovers.
Quote from
Voyager7456
Voyager7456Quote from
Echo
EchoThat's bullshit about how men's bodies are genetically programmed to like sex.
Ummmm, no... Sex is pleasurable, at least physically. We've evolved that way so that we are encouraged to pass on our genes.
You can be averse to having sex, but you can't deny the human body is built for it.

Your sex isn't mentally pleasurable?

None.






I thought you were... Nah, nevermind. Hmmm but I get your point. Initiating a relationship sucks. 


Also with little teddy bears with little green bowes.. all sorts of chocolates. Could that be considered mushy stuff? I just handed them to her in the middle of a crowded hallway and was like 'LOLIHAZPREZENT!<3' and she's like ":O! *hug*"