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Starcraft Legends
Dec 15 2020, 1:28 am
By: QcCOrado  

Dec 15 2020, 1:28 am QcCOrado Post #1



Hi everyone, this is Cédric, iam a cyber friend of MapMaker, and couple other map makers such as GGmano.

I just need a quick help right now for some easy trigger i beleive but its been 12 years since i havent touch it and i dont seem to have a good CPU right now since it SCMDRAFT keeps shutting down for Terrain bugs.

Anyways, my project is simple but i wanna keep it secret.
Its a mather of adding some special things into real normal sc games.
Lets say id like to be able to train a Kerrigan from a Barrack. I would like the Kerigan to be unlocked once I have Academy. That Kerrigan would not be able to cloack and would have no spell at all. Just a quick Sniper into the game.

So thats an exemple, i have many ideas i wanna implement.
Can you please help?
thanks
COra



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Dec 15 2020, 10:54 am GGmano Post #2

Mr.Pete-Tong

If you need to be able to train kerrigan from barrack you need eud editor3.

If you can excange one of the units beeing made in barrack already like medic or normal ghost, you can exchange this unit for a kerrigan. So when making a medic it instant changes into a kerrigan when created in barrack. that would be easy trigger for that.

If you want the last option i can help you with that.

in case that you dont wanna use euds. theres other methods in creating units but you wouldnt be able to train it in barrack instead you could go to a beacon to buy the kerrigan sniper for excample if thats an option youd like? that way you could train a kerrigan while still beeing able to train all the units in the barrack, marine, bat, ghost, medic.



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Dec 15 2020, 4:03 pm QcCOrado Post #3



Quote from GGmano
If you need to be able to train kerrigan from barrack you need eud editor3.

If you can excange one of the units beeing made in barrack already like medic or normal ghost, you can exchange this unit for a kerrigan. So when making a medic it instant changes into a kerrigan when created in barrack. that would be easy trigger for that.

If you want the last option i can help you with that.

in case that you dont wanna use euds. theres other methods in creating units but you wouldnt be able to train it in barrack instead you could go to a beacon to buy the kerrigan sniper for excample if thats an option youd like? that way you could train a kerrigan while still beeing able to train all the units in the barrack, marine, bat, ghost, medic.

Yo Pete thanks for your help, as always.

Ive seen units with new image in meny, like at DS 3.20 the workers have the ability to cast the special, that ability is, for probe exemple, the Mind Control research icon that is added into the Probe's menu board.
So i thought to myself, it is possible to use empty tiles into units, so it be for buildings.

What i want is to keep everything, the real Starcraft Broodwar game, into a Fastest Possible Map. Where it is possible to train a kerrigan for terran, to set upgrades to a limit of 5 instead of 3. Too add some other heroes.
Add some layers of research. Extend it a bit..

I welcome EUD i dont mind, ill give it a look, thanks. EUD3 thing, ill check that rn



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Dec 15 2020, 4:13 pm NudeRaider Post #4

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Why EUDs? Just train a Firebat and replace it with a Kerrigan once it's done. Disable spells in tech settings.




Dec 15 2020, 5:09 pm poison_us Post #5

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Quote from NudeRaider
Disable spells in tech settings.

Wouldn't that disable cloaking and lockdown for all Ghost-type units? It's unclear if OP wants to only disable for Kerrigans, but based off the second post it seems like they would want to keep the tech available if they're trying to create a Fastest-style UMS map.




Dec 15 2020, 5:15 pm QcCOrado Post #6



i want to keep the game the exact same. but extend it with heroes and more upgrades more research



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Dec 15 2020, 7:28 pm GGmano Post #7

Mr.Pete-Tong

You need eud editor3 for that then



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Dec 18 2020, 4:44 pm QcCOrado Post #8



got EUD3 installed.
been able to load one of my game, because i can see the unit name changed in the descpriton. But i cannot see terrain. Aswell as not been able to save and open it into SC real game.

All installation orders were followed.
How do i do from Here?



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