A recall to unwalkable terrain (that's how the glitch works) is not so different to the effect of a teleport to unwalkable terrain trigger. I suppose with the right timing (timing is important!) you could just reproduce the glitch via triggers.
When you try the glitch you have to recall the probe, then during the recall animation quickly order the worker to mine. If you time it right it will start mining on the spot. Maybe it also has to be near a cliff.
That means you have to time the activation of the AI so that the workers start mining just before the teleport trigger fires. (in theory)
Sorry for necroing this thread! I have searched tirelessly to figure this out. I am actually attempting to reproduce this glitch for a map idea but to no avail. I have a small island with a nexus, a probe and an arbiter and have successfully set up cast recall. I've tried a few of the Protoss AI scripts such as "Expansion Area Town" and "Brood War Town A", but the probe just sits there. Any help would be greatly appreciated!
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Make sure you're using the "Run AI Script at Location" action. Place a location over the Nexus, and then run the AI script at that location.
Using Move Unit action will work.
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Hello, greatly appreciate the prompt response, help and suggestions!
Make sure you're using the "Run AI Script at Location" action. Place a location over the Nexus, and then run the AI script at that location.
I've tried both like that, encompassing the probe and just the nexus with nothing happening.
Using Move Unit action will work.
Using it to teleport to a test set of minerals just teleports the probe and using to to teleport to the arbiter's location doesn't seem to work either.
If this helps, here's a screenshot:
locations and triggers .Do the minerals need to be in an inaccessible part of the map? I was trying to get it to steal resources from the player until they are depleted.
Thanks again!
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An artist's depiction of an Extended Unit Death
I'm not sure about the claims of the original poster for this thread, but in regards to the long-distance mining trick, two things are required:
1) The worker has an active order to harvest/return resources
2) The worker gets moved to an invalid location
In-game, this is achieved by putting an Arbiter over some water or other unwalkable terrain and casting Recall on the Probe. This will attempt to move the Probe to the Arbiter, but because the Probe cannot go there, it remains in place. However, this tricks the game into believing the Probe has stopped because it is in range of harvesting, and so the Probe begins to harvest its target from afar.
Using triggers, we don't even need to bother with an Arbiter's Recall: we can use the "Move Unit" action to attempt to move the Probe onto water. This will of course fail, so the Probe won't move at all, but it creates the desired effect of long-distance mining.
So, the crux of the issue is, how do we automate this with an AI? Unfortunately, the AI is very fickle, and (throughout my testing, at least), it won't issue the order to harvest if it cannot find a walkable path to the resources. In other words, the AI won't tell the Probe to do anything because it doesn't think it
can do anything, and thus condition #1 is never fulfilled.
Attached is an example map showing long-distance mining. You can disconnect the terrain connecting the Probes to the Nexus or the Mineral Fields to see this limitation in action. Unless there's a way to force the computer to issue a harvest command even when the destination is unreachable, this is the best you can do.
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Thanks again, really appreciate all the feedback and help. Will see about implementing the fix in said map.
Take it easy and happy map-making!
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NudeRaider
