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triggers with scarabs and reavers
Jul 16 2010, 6:26 am
By: tentons01  

Jul 16 2010, 6:26 am tentons01 Post #1



okay, so what im trying to do is basicly set up a type of machine gun useing scarabs. so, when a unit gets to a location A, a reaver spawns a location B, shoots a scarab at the unit, the reaver dissapears, another reaver spawns, shoots, and it keeps going on like that until there are no units at location A for the reaver to shoot at. Im useing hyper triggers cause i want the shooting action to happen really fast. How would i trigger this?

oh i also have one more question. its not related to this topic, but i think ill ask it on here anyway so i wont waste space by createing a new topic.
Say i have about 50 zerglings, but i want to make 1 small location that can detect all 50 zerglings. So say that i have a marine, and if it touches a ling then the marine will die. I know its easier just to create a location for the marine, but thats not wat im asking (stateing this to avoid unhelpful answers) oh, and how many triggers are allowed onto one map? iv been working on a map for about 4 months, it has 8500 triggers. thanks for the help guys!

Post has been edited 1 time(s), last time on Jul 16 2010, 7:37 am by NudeRaider. Reason: merged posts



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Jul 16 2010, 7:51 am NudeRaider Post #2

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Create the reaver with 1 scarab, order it to patrol and when you detect 0 scarabs on the reaver remove it. Rinse and repeat. Isn't very fast though as reavers need some time to acquire a target and actually shoot.
Maybe it's better to use stacked cloaked wraiths for that effect. Or just a floor gun trap. ^^

You'd need to cycle through the lings, but that has several drawbacks which can be partially countered.
You center on the ling, and give the ling to another player. Then you check if the marine is in the location. When no lings are left, give all lings back to the original player. Rinse and repeat.
You could use a computer player that has the same alliances and color as the original player to give the lings to, the player won't notice.

Trigger limit is at 64k triggers if people will save your map and continue later. Otherwise there's no limit.
The process would take over 6 game seconds to scan through all the lings. So you may want to make more copies of the trigger to speed it up. But keep in mind that when you give a unit it deselects and cancels attacks.




Jul 16 2010, 4:48 pm tentons01 Post #3



okay thanks! How would you detect when the reaver has 0 scarabs though?



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Jul 16 2010, 4:51 pm rockz Post #4

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bring 0 scarabs to the reaver's location, so long as it is smaller than the reaver. Take a look at DDS stuff (search for it). Also here:
Human DDS



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[12:32 pm]
Oh_Man -- yea APM vs eAPM
[08:48 am]
NimoStar -- plus most of the human APM is just spam clicking APM inflation
[08:47 am]
NimoStar -- the thing with the "*12" thing is completely misleading. The AI isn't using two control groups, it can use each of those actions to command a single unit individually and issue different commands to each single unit.
[08:06 am]
NudeRaider -- NudeRaider
NudeRaider shouted: Oh_Man Artosis hasn't caught on how devastating the perfect focus fire is. With the mutas he was like "the Mutas always seem to have less hp than against a human". But he didn't notice that the flock he had selected always just had one muta that was hurt. Same with the wraiths here. He's talking about how valks+wraith is gonna destroy Pluto's valks, then 5s later he's dumbfounded the human player's air is just gone and he never figured out why. And for some reason didn't even think to go back and look at the battle.
*Pluto's wraiths
[08:05 am]
NudeRaider -- Oh_Man Artosis hasn't caught on how devastating the perfect focus fire is. With the mutas he was like "the Mutas always seem to have less hp than against a human". But he didn't notice that the flock he had selected always just had one muta that was hurt. Same with the wraiths here. He's talking about how valks+wraith is gonna destroy Pluto's valks, then 5s later he's dumbfounded the human player's air is just gone and he never figured out why. And for some reason didn't even think to go back and look at the battle.
[02:18 am]
Oh_Man -- Close enuf
[2026-9-21. : 4:14 pm]
Vrael -- perhaps there is a small professional player trapped in a box in the server rack where pluto is running? hmm?
[2026-9-21. : 4:14 pm]
Vrael -- 240*12*2 is 5760, where is the other 240 APM?
[2026-9-21. : 3:44 pm]
Oh_Man -- 1 action is selecting the unit and another action is moving it
[2026-9-21. : 2:58 pm]
Vrael -- 240*12 is 2880, where is the other 3000 APM?
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